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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2017 at 08:50
The lead singer always reminded me of Roger Daltry for some reason. Not his singing though. 

Yeah, that first Flash album is very good. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2017 at 07:41
Hi,

Interesting. I like the comment that "FRAGILE was not human" ... and in a sense that is so true as the whole album is so well defined and designed that it made it almost inhuman and too perfect an album for us all to ignore.

As much as I like FLASH, and have always had those first two albums, I think that lyrically and compositionally, they needed to get past that "human" thing, not that they had to create an album that was "superhuman", which was never what they were about, but something that helped them transcent what they think they were that helped see them through a different sphere and set of fans. FRAGILE might not be human, but it got our attention ... the first two FLASH albums were nice but did not get our attention compared to the other monster.

There is something to be said about that "human" thing, and it would come alive 20 years later with NIRVANA, for example, but in the end, it renders a band repetitive, and one can not find a reasonable understanding for the pieces of music, that are a bit more than just a 4 minute song ... the solos become meandering in the ears and eyes of the listener, and that is something that hurts the idealism around music, so much of which propels it!

The same thing happened with IRON BUTTERFLY, who could never get past their first piece of music that sent them to the stratosphere, and mostly because it was not about the trip itself, but about the song and its this and that for the trip, and that did not last long enough for us to even listen to the 2nd album of theirs!

The writing was on the wall, proverbially, for the music scene ... it was going to make you buy everything to confuse your understanding of things. All of a sudden, JEFFERSON AIRPLANE was not as intelligent a rock band as one song made it out to be, even though it had nice stuff, and one beautiful song, did not help IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY become any better and more appealing, in favor of louder, and less interesting music around the time.

And then, something like LZ showed up. And "human" was taken to a personal level that most could not even relate to and could only fantasize about. That was "superhuman"? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2017 at 15:24
Love those first two Flash albums. Great stuff. Kaye should have stuck around...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2017 at 11:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2017 at 11:41
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

For a period of time (early 70s) Flash was my most seen opening act.  I mean they opened for everybody.  And with all of that I never could get into their music.  IMO they were never in Yes' league.

Thanks!  I only saw them once, opening for Wishbone Ash on their "Wishbone Flash" tour (the bands shared a producer).  

And I agree, I don't think the band was in Yes' league, although if they had brought on a permanent keyboard player, they may have evolved in that direction.  The band's chemistry was a mess, even though there was some amazing talent.  

Very little Flash video exists, this is about all I've ever found. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2017 at 11:13
For a period of time (early 70s) Flash was my most seen opening act.  I mean they opened for everybody.  And with all of that I never could get into their music.  IMO they were never in Yes' league.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2017 at 22:20
Calling Fragile stale and mechanical... it's one of my favourite prog albums, with the most perfect line-up I can think of.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2017 at 23:37
nobody can tell for sure the future, and whos gonna be rememberd, and whos forgotten, but for sure, more people will remember Yes. But that aint saying Flash should be forgotten either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2017 at 21:28
New article I found, discussing the original critic views of Yes and Flash, shortly after Peter Banks & Tony Kaye left/were booted out of Yes:


As fine of a band Flash was on their first two albums, I don't think their product rose to the compositional nor performance level of "the Yes Album" nor "Fragile."  However, it is an interesting historical perspective! 

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