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The earliest example I could think of was Par Lindh Project's "Mundus Incompertus" from 1997. It's not pure prog metal imo but it definitely has strong elements of it in it.
I'm actually not referring to the old bands from the seventies because that would be too easy. I'm referring to non prog metal bands from the post seventies era. Most of the 80's neo bands didn't really have metal elements so it was later than that. Again, I'm not talking about pure prog metal here. Just curious. I have a few in mind but want to hear other responses first.
But wouldn't any band after that initial classic period simply not be the first?
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I'm referring to non prog metal bands from the post seventies era.
This is a little ambiguous... Are you asking for bands that aren't prog metal, or metal bands that aren't prog?
I'm not quite sure what exactly you're asking for...
First of the post seventies (to answer the first part).
I was looking for neither prog metal or metal that isn't prog. Not ambiguous. A band can have elements of something without being that thing.
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Posted: December 13 2016 at 02:03
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Interesting question.
Of course there are the usual suspects: Led Zeppelin, Queen, Rainbow, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Uriah Heep that influenced a lot of the NWOBHM that emerged in the 80's.
I think though that the real progmetal as we know it, started with Queenr˙che, Savatage, Fates Warning.
But King Crimson has been named a lot by metalbands, maybe because the heavy tone, the depressing tone. A lot of times a heard Red as a big influence to progmetal.
Other bands that are named a lot as a majoor influence are Kansas, Rush and Saga.
But in my collection I would say that Queen II (Ogre Battle) and Sheer Heart Attack (Flick of the Wrist) has some real heavy proto-heavy metal tendencies.
And of Course Very Heavy Very Umble and Salisbury by Uriah Heep. The heavy metal riff of Gypsy is really simple and repetitive, but a great example of heavy metal.
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Posted: December 13 2016 at 02:02
Interesting question.
Of course there are the usual suspects: Led Zeppelin, Queen, Rainbow, Deep Purple, Judas Priest that influenced a lot of the NWOBHM that emerged in the 80's.
I think though that the real progmetal as we know it, started with Queenr˙che, Savatage, Fates Warning.
But King Crimson has been named a lot by metalbands, maybe because the heavy tone, the depressing tone. A lot of times a heard Red as a big influence to progmetal.
Other bands that are named a lot as a majoor influence are Kansas, Rush and Saga.
But in my collection I would say that Queen II (Ogre Battle) and Sheer Heart Attack (Flick of the Wrist) has some real heavy proto-heavy metal tendencies.
Well they ain't 70s era or later being merely 1969 but the first prog metal was probably a little known number called 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Some may be familiar with The Kanye West sample, others might be familiar with the King Crimson source of the sample. These same listeners might also think the aforementioned K. West (note subtle Ziggy reference) was a kind of prog metal if you fuse (Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em's Frank Spencer with Motorhead).
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Posted: December 12 2016 at 22:46
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I'm actually not referring to the old bands from the seventies because that would be too easy. I'm referring to non prog metal bands from the post seventies era. Most of the 80's neo bands didn't really have metal elements so it was later than that. Again, I'm not talking about pure prog metal here. Just curious. I have a few in mind but want to hear other responses first.
But wouldn't any band after that initial classic period simply not be the first?
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
I'm referring to non prog metal bands from the post seventies era.
This is a little ambiguous... Are you asking for bands that aren't prog metal, or metal bands that aren't prog?
I'm not quite sure what exactly you're asking for...
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I'm actually not referring to the old bands from the seventies because that would be too easy. I'm referring to non prog metal bands from the post seventies era. Most of the 80's neo bands didn't really have metal elements so it was later than that. Again, I'm not talking about pure prog metal here. Just curious. I have a few in mind but want to hear other responses first.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 12 2016 at 22:21
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