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Slartibartfast 
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 Posted: April 08 2014 at 11:31 |
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I think Starcastle had one good album, the first one, which I have, but Triumvirat has several.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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twosteves
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 09:16 |
 Mirror Image wrote:
Neither. If a band can't strive for an original sound or at least put one foot forward in trying to be unique in some way, then they certainly don't deserve their own poll. |
This--could not have said it better.
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presdoug
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 07:32 |
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Triumvirat, they are my favorite band. And I have always seen them as having a unique identity of their own. Of course they have their influences -everybody does-but they put it together their own way, really.
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digdug
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 07:05 |
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I actually love both early Triumvirat and early Starcastle
Voted Starcastle
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Prog On!
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Daysbetween
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 04:10 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
^ Well I don't know if I'd go that far but I certainly think Triumvirat was a very good band. Cool user name by the way. ;)
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Hercules
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 02:31 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Well thank you for sharing your opinion. Does this mean you don't like IQ or Marillion? :p Oh and neither band has their own poll. They're sharing this one. ;)
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IQ and Marillion may have been heavily influenced by Genesis and other 70s prog bands, but their sound soon became very much their own.
As for the poll, I much prefer Triumvirat. Starcastle are just too close to Yes for comfort.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 01:48 |
Triumvirat are a pretty special band to me and I play them a lot more often, but Starcastle are a fine band as well.
To dismiss Triumvirat as a mere `copycat' act is hugely insulting though! Also, the Triumvirat albums when they worked more to a poppier/accessible/commercial sound mixed with prog such as `Pompeii', etc, were more successful than ELP's similar moments.
Did anyone ever bother listening to that later Starcastle album with the shocking black and white picture of the band on the front?! Not much of a prog akbum, but certainly a well-played AOR album! 
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richardh
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 01:29 |
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I'm not convinced that you can copy ELP anyway. Triumvirat sort of distilled Tarkus and made it their own. Really good band and Jurgen Fritz is probably a more fluid player than Keith Emerson. However ELP had 'attitude' and were one of the pioneers of prog and also advanced the use of the Moog synth. I don't see that much Triumvirat that is comparable to ELP tracks like Take A Pebble, Pirates, Trilogy and Hoedown.
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verslibre
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 01:22 |
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T'rat, definitely.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 00:24 |
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^ Well I don't know if I'd go that far but I certainly think Triumvirat was a very good band. Cool user name by the way. ;)
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 00:18 |
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Starcastle is bad + I'd probably pick Triumvirat over ELP most days
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 00:06 |
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Well thank you for sharing your opinion. Does this mean you don't like IQ or Marillion? :p Oh and neither band has their own poll. They're sharing this one. ;)
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Mirror Image
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Posted: April 08 2014 at 00:02 |
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Neither. If a band can't strive for an original sound or at least put one foot forward in trying to be unique in some way, then they certainly don't deserve their own poll.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: April 07 2014 at 23:53 |
Which copy cat band do you prefer? Personally I think Triumvirat blows Starcastle out of the water but that's just my opinion. Also, I couldn't think of any copy cat bands for Pink Floyd or Genesis although I'm sure that in the case of Genesis at least there are probably a few.
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