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Poll Question: What type of set up do you use most often to listen to prog?
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Vinyl

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At work - a crappy £20 portable stereo

At home - Yamaha AS500 Amp, Yamaha S300 CD Player, Wharfedale 10.1 Diamond Speakers, and a Project Genie MK3 turntable. My stereo has to be one of my favourite things!
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^ the best way to describe them indeed!
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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

...  my computer speakers (which are really nice JBL ones that looks like a weird spaceship or something) ...
That's what I use too. Correct-a-mundo, a spaceship Big smile ... some kind of conic parabolas.


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^ that sounds intense, and rather scary.

Me you ask? Either my computer speakers (which are really nice JBL ones that looks like a weird spaceship or something). Or my Sennheiser HD 408 headphones. 

I like good sound quality.
Though I honestly do not notice a difference between mp3 and FLAC, even with a side by side comparison.
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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

My old faithful Samsung home stereo. In car, it's a Panasonic CD player with Magnat speakers.

I won't be using MP3 players anymore; I nearly died on  a railroad crossing.




 You mean like fiddling with it looking for a specific album or something?

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My old faithful Samsung home stereo. In car, it's a Panasonic CD player with Magnat speakers.

I won't be using MP3 players anymore; I nearly died on  a railroad crossing.
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Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

High end...But certainly no Mc Intosh (because it has nothing to do anymore with the vintage brand which released excellent tuners in the 70's which have no equivalent today) nor SACD...
 
I agree....Mc is nice but wayyyyyy over priced nowadays, SACDs never really took off either. Hi-res downloads of 24/96 or 24/192 seem to be gaining ground. But I am fine with redbook 16/44.1 with the external DAC I have now, sounds brilliant!!!. Plus hi-res downloads are expensive and I would rather use the money on vinyl.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Happy Record Store Day 21/4/2012 Approve
 
Not till tomorrow for me....but I will be out shopping on Saturday, already have my itinerary and stores lined up!!
 
If you prefer online shopping, soundstagedirect.com has an 11% off everything ending 23/04 at midnight.
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High end...But certainly no Mc Intosh (because it has nothing to do anymore with the vintage brand which released excellent tuners in the 70's which have no equivalent today) nor SACD...
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Happy Record Store Day 21/4/2012 Approve
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My laptop, through the laptop speakers, when exploring new stuff, which I'm doing mostly these days.

I prefer listening to prog on my stereo, but my CD player works when it wants to, my prog CD collection isn't that huge, yet, and I'm skint right now, so I have to make do with Spotify, YouTube and pretty lousy speakers ATM.
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The difference between laptop speakers and home stereo is huge. If i have to listen through those speakers it's only for background music not for listening with my full concentration. I spend a lot of time listening with my iphone, which is one of the best sources today, and some excellent earphones, shure se215 to be exact, very good quality for being on the road. Smile
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I only use my laptop because I'm poor LOLOuch
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Again its about personal choice....I could never do serious listening from my laptop speakers, the fullness of the music just does not exist. I could very well be wrong but my guess is the best a set of Logitech speakers will do is 80/90Hz - 20kHz freq range with very poor efficiency, especially with very small 25mm-50mm drivers.
I can't imagine any sound stage existing past 1m distance or less (Dean can advise better than I in this matter)..........But its a choice, as long as we are listening to music, its all good.
 
I have a lot of CDs and digital music....but I will always prefer vinyl.
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But seriously, I only listen to prog on my iPod, and sometimes through my laptop speakers when I'm working out (usually only extreme prog metal though).

I've never listened to an album on vinyl, though I have a few vinyl records inherited from my father which I use as decoration.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

From a technical aspect vinyl does not have the dynamic range (volume) of CD and it has poorer channel seperation (width) than CD or tape, there is nothing inherrent in the vinyl medium that would create any objective measure that could be referred to as wider dynamic.


This is also true.
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^ That is correct, bands, mixing or mastering engineers are trying to find the point where they have enough compression but still maintain some dynamic range. Of course some take it to the extreme of having no dynamic range at all. The idea is that the listener wouldn't have to adjust the volume according to the song dynamics. 70's albums have loud parts against very quiet parts that are barely listenable, and compression solved that "problem", but it did got us to where we are today, not saying if it is bad or good.
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I once saw a graphical depiction of a wav file for Rush's Caress of Steel from an LP and another from a CD. The LP wav had an easily discernible large dynamic range while the CD wav had a very small and nearly unnoticeable dynamic range. For whatever reason it seems to be the norm to use a lot of compression when reissuing an LP release on CD. The argument I normally hear is that most people listen to music in their cars these days and quieter passages have to be boosted to be heard over road noise.

 Perfect technical specs matter little when humans are making decisions not based on perfection.

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Points: 17965 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:36
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

^ Yes me too, I would always prefer to hear 70's stuff in vinyls, dynamic is much wider and it just sounds better (to my ears at least). I also prefer the mixing in the 70's (of course there are more than some crapy ones) to the mixing done today. I feel today there is to much analizing to the instruments and to the overall mix.
How do you mean "dynamic is much wider"? From a technical aspect vinyl does not have the dynamic range (volume) of CD and it has poorer channel seperation (width) than CD or tape, there is nothing inherrent in the vinyl medium that would create any objective measure that could be referred to as wider dynamic. I accept that it sounds better to your ears, and I don't mind totally subjective reasoning for preferring vinyl over CD or tape. I too prefer vinyl over tape and CD because it is asthetically pleasing from a purely engineering perspective to see sound being produced from grooves in plastic platter using something as primative as a needle connected to an electromagnet - for a 135 year old invention it is a marvel that it is still so respected today.
 
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Yup...waiting for the reply on "dynamic is much wider".
 
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