What do you listen to prog on?
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Topic: What do you listen to prog on?
Posted By: Single Coil
Subject: What do you listen to prog on?
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 01:50
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This poll is about what you use the most to listen to prog. I went with "Home Stereo". I love to hear new things in the music on the home stereo that I missed in the car, due to road noise. How about you? Got a favorite type of equipment to listen on? Does it matter a great deal to you? ------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 02:48
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I go to work by train so I spend at least 2 hours per day with headphones on. I have two mp3 readers in case one has the battery exhausted. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 03:50
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Pink Triangle Anniverary turntable with an SME V arm and Lyra Lydian cartridge, Audiolab 100W pre and power amps and Mission 753 Freedom speakers. Headphones are Beyer Dynamic 550s and all albums are archived onto a Pioneer CTS9000 cassette deck using metal or top quality chrome tapes.
And no - I don't have a CD player (I use my computer with its terrible reproduction) because I much prefer analogue sound quality. Indeed, I've just bought a copy of The Snow Goose on pristine 180g vinyl, which has made my year. I also understand IQ are releasing Subterranea on vinyl which will be another of my favourite albums which I can listen to properly. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 03:56
| Stereo with vinyls and on some occasions with an headphone while traveling. |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:38
| home stereo for me when listening prog. |
Posted By: Quirky Turkey
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 06:43
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stereo with vinyls is the best. But i always use the mp3 player, with earphones |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 07:23
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All of the above except for the last option. The computer takes the lead though in the quantity department/ I have a good surround sound setup in my music room where I can get loud and not bother my wife.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 08:21
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Car stereo, mostly out of necessity. I like privacy when I'm listening to music. The home stereo has become more and more of a "special occasion" listen, unfortunately.
edit: I get a lot of privacy at work too, luckily, since I have my own office. But even then I can't play my iPod dock too loudly without being disruptive. I can play it loud enough to hear what's going on, anyway.
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Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 08:26
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I went with large headphones but in reality it is a combination of home stereo/headphones/computer because it just depends on who else is home at the time and what time of day (I do a lot of listening at night). Alas the hubs is not much of a prog fan (or a loud music fan)... :( ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 09:15
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VINYL OF COURSE ------------- |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 09:50
Mine keep skipping when I go over a bump or have to brake suddenly.
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Vibrationbaby wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 10:13
For some reason I can't vote in this "poll" Anyways, I listen via a multitude of different ways: ear-buds, stereo(my preferred), another guy's car stereo, mp3, cds, computer with headphones and the odd vinyl experience. Stereo would get my vote though. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 11:18
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iPod and stereo system/ cd player.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 12:41
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I listen to prog on methamphetamine. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Pieromcdo
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 12:52
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i live in a lof in a industrial building and i have my cabinet maquer shop 5 feets away so in my loof is computer amp and speakers +bose eadphone noise cancelling in my shop is the same computer amp speakers and mm550 sennyeser with bluetooth transmiter from the computer just amazing and playing loud and clear ------------- Looking for music contact ME [email protected] 10,000 cds on my computer great way of living |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 13:25
Me too - helps me blend in at the gym. Everybody's doing it, so why can't I listen to Amon Düül ll whilst benching? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 16:28
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High end audio gear with 90% being VINYL OF COURSE NAD C356BEE amp, Grant Fidelity TubeDAC11, Audio Technica LP120 w/AT440MLa, Epos Epic 2 speakers and ZuneHD 32GB for non vinyl listening. -------------   
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 17:05
I suspect someone moved it from somewhere where polls are allowed into Tech Talk, where they are not.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 18:26
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I'm not good enough to vote in your poll apparently but, most of my prog is on vinyl. That is largely because my mind could never justify the cost of buying a cd which contains music I already have on vinyl. So while 50% of my listening is done on the road, the prog is mostly played on my semi high end home stereo. Holy Moly, tape some pennies on the stylus. Or if you live in a rural area you may have to use a stack of nickles. ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 18:57
Do you guys actually mean what you are saying? On the topic: earbuds & MP3, even though it did cost me some of the hearing ability in the past. |
Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 20:14
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Wow... great answers. Thanks everyone! I really should have included "vinyl" as a distinct option on the poll. ------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 22:35
Try going to the gym and blending in without meth. Not possible. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 15 2012 at 23:27
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Technically, none of the above. My computer is my main entertainment center, but "computer speakers" is disparaging. Granted they're M-Audio AV-40s, but going through a 24-bit, 192 kHz interface is not like sh*tty laptop speakers. But I don't listen to other band's music all that much these days anyway. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 02:33
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If I could vote I would vote headphones - I need my privacy! And I dont wanna miss a thing ------------- 
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Posted By: mono
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 08:59
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1. Full sized headphones (BeyerDynamics) 2. Studio Monitors (Mackie MR series) 3. Bluetooth speakers (Parrot Boombox, with guests, party...) and yes, I can actually play prog when other people are around. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:11
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I don't have an option for me here. My micro system, though I have a "proper" stereo too. Can't stand vinyl. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:41
| ^ Why can't you stand vinyl? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:46
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^bad sound. Scratches. Crackles. Pops. When CD was invented I was truly happier. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:46
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Its a personal choice. I will always listen to vinyl, if its available on vinyl that's what I buy. CDs to me are overpriced for what you get, very bad pressings of overly compressed recordings that lead to listener fatigue...at least for me anyhow.
There are many, many vinyl issues that sound better than CDs. All my Porcupine Tree sound better than the CDs, but I blame Steven Wilson since he is so obsessed with sound quality. Hence everyone wants him to mix and/or remaster their recordings.
Since I listen to Prog Rock/R&B/Jazz/Prog Metal......once the music starts I never hear any pop, crackle......Distorted guitars, drumming, synths and everything else covers a slight pop everyonce in awhile.
Now if I was a classical music listener...probably do CD or Digital only so I can hear all those quiet passages undisturbed....but I am not.
All of my early Rush albums still sound pretty damn good....but I am a fanatic for taking care of my vinyl and always use better than average equipment and keep everything aligned as close to perfect as possible.
But that's just me......! -------------
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:08
| ^ Yes me too, I would always prefer to hear 70's stuff in vinyls, dynamic is much wider and it just sounds better (to my ears at least). I also prefer the mixing in the 70's (of course there are more than some crapy ones) to the mixing done today. I feel today there is to much analizing to the instruments and to the overall mix. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:21
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PC headphones (when wife wanna watch TV)
PC & home stereo (when wify not........)
Car stereo (when .....) USB or CD
PC speakers (when at work) USB
Very rare - Vinyl or CD + home stereo (usualy not even connected my turnable, a question of limited space) ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:29
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Computer Speakers and my Room Stereo, first and foremost. I try to avoid earplugs/headphones, but I do have my seasons where I listen to a lot to my MP3. Mind you, I realize that a lot of stuff sounds better with headphones, lots of details you can't hear on PC speakers or even in my room. I still do not drive, but I love choosing the CD's for the car. I can't wait to listen to my stuff on the road!
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 15:03
| Why can't I vote in this poll? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 15:30
------------- What? |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:26
| What I mean is that today's mixing and mastering have a lot of compression, while in the 70's the mixing was much more dynamic, it's not because of the vinyl, it's due to how things were done back then. I'm sorry my previous post wasn't written well, my bad. But you see what I mean now. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:36
  Yup...waiting for the reply on "dynamic is much wider".
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Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 18:30
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I once saw a graphical depiction of a wav file for Rush's Caress of Steel from an LP and another from a CD. The LP wav had an easily discernible large dynamic range while the CD wav had a very small and nearly unnoticeable dynamic range. For whatever reason it seems to be the norm to use a lot of compression when reissuing an LP release on CD. The argument I normally hear is that most people listen to music in their cars these days and quieter passages have to be boosted to be heard over road noise. Perfect technical specs matter little when humans are making decisions not based on perfection. ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 02:03
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^ That is correct, bands, mixing or mastering engineers are trying to find the point where they have enough compression but still maintain some dynamic range. Of course some take it to the extreme of having no dynamic range at all. The idea is that the listener wouldn't have to adjust the volume according to the song dynamics. 70's albums have loud parts against very quiet parts that are barely listenable, and compression solved that "problem", but it did got us to where we are today, not saying if it is bad or good. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 02:04
This is also true. |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 08:57
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But seriously, I only listen to prog on my iPod, and sometimes through my laptop speakers when I'm working out (usually only extreme prog metal though). I've never listened to an album on vinyl, though I have a few vinyl records inherited from my father which I use as decoration. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 09:16
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Again its about personal choice....I could never do serious listening from my laptop speakers, the fullness of the music just does not exist. I could very well be wrong but my guess is the best a set of Logitech speakers will do is 80/90Hz - 20kHz freq range with very poor efficiency, especially with very small 25mm-50mm drivers.
I can't imagine any sound stage existing past 1m distance or less (Dean can advise better than I in this matter)..........But its a choice, as long as we are listening to music, its all good.
I have a lot of CDs and digital music....but I will always prefer vinyl. -------------
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 10:59
I only use my laptop because I'm poor   ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 15:43
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The difference between laptop speakers and home stereo is huge. If i have to listen through those speakers it's only for background music not for listening with my full concentration. I spend a lot of time listening with my iphone, which is one of the best sources today, and some excellent earphones, shure se215 to be exact, very good quality for being on the road. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: April 18 2012 at 16:04
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My laptop, through the laptop speakers, when exploring new stuff, which I'm doing mostly these days. I prefer listening to prog on my stereo, but my CD player works when it wants to, my prog CD collection isn't that huge, yet, and I'm skint right now, so I have to make do with Spotify, YouTube and pretty lousy speakers ATM. -------------  
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 20 2012 at 02:53
Happy http://www.recordstoreday.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - Record Store Day 21/4/2012  ------------- What? |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 20 2012 at 03:12
| High end...But certainly no Mc Intosh (because it has nothing to do anymore with the vintage brand which released excellent tuners in the 70's which have no equivalent today) nor SACD... |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 20 2012 at 10:56
Not till tomorrow for me....but I will be out shopping on Saturday, already have my itinerary and stores lined up!!
If you prefer online shopping, soundstagedirect.com has an 11% off everything ending 23/04 at midnight. -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: April 20 2012 at 11:00
I agree....Mc is nice but wayyyyyy over priced nowadays, SACDs never really took off either. Hi-res downloads of 24/96 or 24/192 seem to be gaining ground. But I am fine with redbook 16/44.1 with the external DAC I have now, sounds brilliant!!!. Plus hi-res downloads are expensive and I would rather use the money on vinyl. -------------
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 11:31
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My old faithful Samsung home stereo. In car, it's a Panasonic CD player with Magnat speakers. I won't be using MP3 players anymore; I nearly died on a railroad crossing. ------------- |
Posted By: Flyingsod
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 12:16
You mean like fiddling with it looking for a specific album or something? ------------- This space intentionally left blank |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 03:21
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^ that sounds intense, and rather scary. Me you ask? Either my computer speakers (which are really nice JBL ones that looks like a weird spaceship or something). Or my Sennheiser HD 408 headphones. I like good sound quality. Though I honestly do not notice a difference between mp3 and FLAC, even with a side by side comparison. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 03:43
That's what I use too. Correct-a-mundo, a spaceship
 ... some kind of conic parabolas.
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 03:51
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^ the best way to describe them indeed! ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: kierenj
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 03:31
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At work - a crappy £20 portable stereo At home - Yamaha AS500 Amp, Yamaha S300 CD Player, Wharfedale 10.1 Diamond Speakers, and a Project Genie MK3 turntable. My stereo has to be one of my favourite things! ------------- www.handtheband.com - hAND - UK female fronted experimental / post metal band www.twitter.com/handtheband |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:52
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Vinyl ------------- 
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Posted By: GentleGenerator
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 21:53
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When I'm at home, I listen to my record collection or my digital files (via ps3) through my surround sound system. But when I'm on the road I have a cassette to 1/8" cable I use to connect my Zune so I can listen to my Mp3s there. I wish I had everything on vinyl, but unfortunately some of the more obscure prog bands can be difficult to find in the local Half-Price Books  ------------- I know what I like, and I like what I know. |
Posted By: Monadology
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 23:00
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I use my desktop computer, hooked up to a pair of Swan M200 MKII speakers. They serve me beautifully. If I'm missing any quality, I don't know it. When I'm mobile, I use earbuds with my ancient Zune. |
Posted By: nzproglover75
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 19:11
Audio gear from the 1970's of course...Thorens turntable, Sony CD on a Sansui amplifier driving a pair of old Tannoys...who could ask for anything better......
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 19:18
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^ Did you keep the very nice Thorens (TP13?) tone arm on the turntable? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Proggernaut
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 00:19
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I use an iPod with high quality earbuds when 'out and about' and I also plug the ipod into the car when driving (the system in the car is actually pretty good). I love listening to music on the home theatre/music system (5.1 surround) - especially the Porcupine Tree/Steve Wilson stuff recorded specifically on DVD-A for that. I also enjoy the concert DV's on that system. -------------  Proggernaut (Noun) - one who is exploring the endlessly expanding universe of progressive music.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 14:32
Ha!!! I was thinking the same thing  Hopefully he did...-------------
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 19:41
Awwww wish i still had my Old Tannoy Stratfords those were the day's -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 20:41
| Either laptop with headphones or streaming bluetooth in my car from my phone |
Posted By: Darious
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 09:40
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At work it'll be some Sony/Panasonic micro CD hi-fi, in my car Sony CD system and, finally, at home I employ a proper, decent Hi-Fi set up (fantastic Marantz integrated amplifier, great Sony Blu Ray/CD/USB transport, couple of floorstanding award winning Tannoys and a handful of handpicked QED wiring). I only listen to the music from CDs, blu ray audio discs and high resolution files. No lossy files then - waste of time. Blu ray player is linked to the Marantz through digital caxial audio cable to omit its built-in DAC and use instead the fabulous Marantz' one. When I cannot use speakers I use reference AKG headphones.
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Posted By: Darious
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 10:47
Great set up. I would certainly swap them Wharfedales with Tannoys Mercury V4 though to properly complement your AS500! ------------- Writing about truth is a little bit like getting your dick out in public and hoping no one laughs (Steve Hogarth) |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 16:36
You have one of the first Sony CD players, like from the early 1980s? I have always wanted to treat myself to one, but then I heard some rumors that they are not always compatible with the modern CDs (esp. CD-Rs). What's your experience? |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 17:21
Mostly headphones for me, everywhere (except in the car of course  ) and with every format. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 18 2014 at 15:27
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Thinking of getting a modest desktop setup with dedicated DAC and headphone amp. Would connect a small nettop running a squeezebox type server to stream files (FLAC) to the DAC. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 18 2014 at 17:28
This bad boy is sweeeeet! ![iFi_-_Micro_iDSD_DAC"](http://www.musicdirect.com/images/product/medium/AIFIMICROIDSD_2_.jpg "iFi_-_Micro_iDSD_DAC"") iFi Micro iDSD DAC....compact and supports DSD and DXD files also a great headphone amp. Have fun! -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 08:25
Wow that is a hell of an all-in-one. Thanks Catcher10! Do you own this? |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 11:16
I do not....I have an audio friend in St Louis that does, he bought this along with the PSU and is just getting around to breaking it in. So far he really likes it......What I like is it gets you into the DSD and DXD realm for little money. Understand I am not a big fan of DSD/DXD simply because there is nothing you and I would listen to in those digital formats available for download...There is some jazz coming and classical music, which makes sense..but not much else. I also like that is battery powered so the noise level if any, would be inaudible...looks like it can charge your media device too...cool DAC for sure http://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/micro-idsd/ -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 12:04
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I was initially looking into a Schiit Modi 2/Magni 2 combo, but this thing might have taken the lead. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 19 2014 at 15:58
Schiit products are good for the money also....the ifi is sweet thou -------------
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 20 2014 at 11:15
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In the living room it's my Rega amp and Paradigm speakers. Streaming through my Roku when I listen to Ian Beabout's show it's my Bose home entertainment system. In the bathroom it's just a little iPod hookup box. In the car it's the factory installed Boston Acoustics system. When I'm working in the yard it's some of my old cheapo equipment I still had on hand and moved to the garage. Speakers placed accordingly so I can hear in the front and back. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Roxbrough
Date Posted: January 16 2015 at 03:05
I have become something of a Hi-Fi snob simply because there is so much missing on anything else. ------------- Live Long and Prosper |