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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 21:50
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Honestly, if you're looking for good Marillion material, just get the Fish-era albums.

He's a lot like Peter Gabriel.

Well, even when I only care for Fish era Marillion, I wouldn't compare them, their styles are absolutely different.

Yes both are great lyricists, both were vocalists of their  bands during the Progressive periods, and when they left their bands turned POP, but Fish and Gabriel are absolutely different.
 
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Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

I'd like to recommend the second of Frost* - Experiments in Mass Appeal and Pendragon - The Masquerade Overture. I also enjoy Barock Project - Rebus, which is kind of cheesy and has some silly Enrish lyrics at a couple parts but is still a ton of fun and easy to enjoy.


And good news that Jem Godfrey is dragging Frost* out of moth balls, eh?

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I didn't hear about that - last I heard he was ending it Shocked

Ok, this is fantastic news and the first that I've heard of it.  Thanks E!
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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

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Matthew Parmenter, vocalist/songwriter for Discipline, has two really good neo-prog albums (they could also be considered symphonic prog but whatever).


I don't have his solo stuff, but just love Push & Profit and Unfold Like Staircase. I was never too sure about their neo prog status, though.

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His solo work is similar to his work with Discipline so the genre tag doesn't mean a whole lot to me.  I have read Discipline being called neo-prog even though they are under symphonic prog so it really is ambiguous.  I figured I would put his name on this thread since PA tags him under neo-prog.  
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Originally posted by Garden of Dreams Garden of Dreams wrote:

Matthew Parmenter, vocalist/songwriter for Discipline, has two really good neo-prog albums (they could also be considered symphonic prog but whatever).


I don't have his solo stuff, but just love Push & Profit and Unfold Like Staircase. I was never too sure about their neo prog status, though.

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Matthew Parmenter, vocalist/songwriter for Discipline, has two really good neo-prog albums (they could also be considered symphonic prog but whatever).

IQ's The Wake and Frequency are two of my favorite albums. Definitely worth checking out.


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IQs latest was pretty nice.
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Not much that I can add to this thread that the neo-prog heavyweights haven't already posted, but I'll definitely second some of the recommendations, particularly Marillion's Marbles and IQ's Dark Matter. Two of the best albums you'll ever hear with incredibly distinct sounds.
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http://jemgodfrey.blogspot.com/2011/09/where-were-we.html?spref=fb

He isn't clear about the lineup, but it seems he's persevered the issues he was dealing with and will do another Frost* album. I remember when he was going through this 'crisis' that he was considering treating Frost* like a franchise and having others perform and he sort of be more behind the scenes. Hope it doesn't go in that direction.

Might be cool to have Nick D'Virgilio be a part of this. Thought he did a killer job on the live album.

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

I'd like to recommend the second of Frost* - Experiments in Mass Appeal and Pendragon - The Masquerade Overture. I also enjoy Barock Project - Rebus, which is kind of cheesy and has some silly Enrish lyrics at a couple parts but is still a ton of fun and easy to enjoy.


And good news that Jem Godfrey is dragging Frost* out of moth balls, eh?

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I didn't hear about that - last I heard he was ending it Shocked
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Oh yeah, I liked Frost* too. Experiements in Mass Appeal is such poppy goodness.
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Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

I'd like to recommend the second of Frost* - Experiments in Mass Appeal and Pendragon - The Masquerade Overture. I also enjoy Barock Project - Rebus, which is kind of cheesy and has some silly Enrish lyrics at a couple parts but is still a ton of fun and easy to enjoy.


And good news that Jem Godfrey is dragging Frost* out of moth balls, eh?

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Points: 8805 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 18:46
I'd like to second the recommendation of Frost* - Experiments in Mass Appeal and Pendragon - The Masquerade Overture. I also enjoy Barock Project - Rebus, which is kind of cheesy and has some silly Enrish lyrics at a couple parts but is still a ton of fun and easy to enjoy.

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I've personally never been a fan of neo-prog, but I personally value Arena over all the others. I remember Subsignal being okay, too. 
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Surprised there aren't more comments saying how neo prog is terrible but giving no real reason why. 

Not sure what this genre really is but I've heard an album by that band Pendragon and it didn't seem too bad. 


I like these threads because it shows me whose opinions never to take seriously because they can't keep from sh*tting up the forum.

It's not hard to sum up how the concept of neo-prog is weak. People may like it, but it is still a conceptually failed subgenre.


Sorry, but this is rubbish. If you look at some of the popular albums from the past 15 to 20 years, a lot of them are neo. Hell, just look at the past polls over at DPRP and bands like IQ, Marillion and Pendragon are choking off the top 5 spots, with any one of these bands taking album of the year.

Weak may be your opinion; however, conceptually failed is ludicrous. 

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Hundreds of discussions on PA have already proved that popularity isn't an acceptable argument in any discussion. Need one bring Justin Bieber to this thread?

And it does fail in concept. Most bands in the subgenre base their sound around reusing successful formulas of the Golden Era of Prog and mix them with catchy, merry melodies. It's not hard to run out of ideas and become a self parody if they don't create new concepts.

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Originally posted by GoldenGod2112 GoldenGod2112 wrote:

What about Marillion's second album, Fugazi?

i like it a great deal. some filler but a mostly very good.
Clutching at Straws is also brilliant. indeed i prefer it over childhood, which is overshadowed by kayleigh.
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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2011 at 18:08
Honestly, if you're looking for good Marillion material, just get the Fish-era albums.

He's a lot like Peter Gabriel.


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What about Marillion's second album, Fugazi?
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not a huge fan of the genre, but Misplaced Childhood is fantastic IMO. If you're looking for post-70s prog not in the "neo-prog" category, I recommend Moon Safari
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Misplaced Childhood is essential, IMO.

I'd also go for Magenta, but only Seven and Revolutions. I haven't been able to get into anything after that.

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Fish era Marillion is ok
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