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Joined: February 01 2010
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 10:26
Dean wrote:
sleeper wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
SolarLuna96 wrote:
Two Questions: Don't we need a normal prog party before we have a radical one? and Has any artist been kicked off the site before?
Yes, but I don't remember who it was. I think it was just in the early days, but I'm not positive.
Arcade Fire? I guess there were others in the early days.
You have virtually no chance of getting Bjork removed. The best you can hope for is a move to Prog Related.
Whoa!! I've never listened to Bjork so won't/can't comment on her. Just answering Henry's post, btw I like Arcade Fire.
Katatonia and My Dying Bride were both kicked off the site, but that was because of the way they were added rather than for their music (a PMT member added them without their being a vote). Of course, MDB have got back on when they were voted on properly last year.
I'm really beginning to wonder about the Crossover genre, several bands have recently been added that belong in PR at best (Tori Amos, NIN, Bjork). Plus, they now have a tendency to overturn previous rejections, Bjork being a case in point.
Whoa, Andy - what previous rejections has Xover ever overturned? Bjork has never been suggested or rejected prior to this current suggestion/evaluation/acceptance/addition.
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 10:25
Dean wrote:
Xanatos wrote:
I am still hearing the "Medulla" album ... let me say i am hating the vocal arrangements , still cant believe someone called the album a progressive music masterpiece xD , I mean cmon , wanna good vocal/choir arrangements?Hear the master of counterpoint then:
::snip::
Artists additions are not evaluated on whether you (or anyone else) likes it or whether the music is any good or not. We are not the arbiters of quality.
Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 10:16
Xanatos wrote:
I am still hearing the "Medulla" album ... let me say i am hating the vocal arrangements , still cant believe someone called the album a progressive music masterpiece xD , I mean cmon , wanna good vocal/choir arrangements?Hear the master of counterpoint then:
::snip::
Artists additions are not evaluated on whether you (or anyone else) likes it or whether the music is any good or not. We are not the arbiters of quality.
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 10:12
sleeper wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
SolarLuna96 wrote:
Two Questions: Don't we need a normal prog party before we have a radical one? and Has any artist been kicked off the site before?
Yes, but I don't remember who it was. I think it was just in the early days, but I'm not positive.
Arcade Fire? I guess there were others in the early days.
You have virtually no chance of getting Bjork removed. The best you can hope for is a move to Prog Related.
Whoa!! I've never listened to Bjork so won't/can't comment on her. Just answering Henry's post, btw I like Arcade Fire.
Katatonia and My Dying Bride were both kicked off the site, but that was because of the way they were added rather than for their music (a PMT member added them without their being a vote). Of course, MDB have got back on when they were voted on properly last year.
I'm really beginning to wonder about the Crossover genre, several bands have recently been added that belong in PR at best (Tori Amos, NIN, Bjork). Plus, they now have a tendency to overturn previous rejections, Bjork being a case in point.
Whoa, Andy - what previous rejections has Xover ever overturned? Bjork has never been suggested or rejected prior to this current suggestion/evaluation/acceptance/addition.
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 10:10
I am still hearing the "Medulla" album ... let me say i am hating the vocal arrangements , still cant believe someone called the album a progressive music masterpiece xD , I mean cmon , wanna good vocal/choir arrangements?Hear the master of counterpoint then:
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 09:52
sleeper wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
SolarLuna96 wrote:
Two Questions: Don't we need a normal prog party before we have a radical one? and Has any artist been kicked off the site before?
Yes, but I don't remember who it was. I think it was just in the early days, but I'm not positive.
Arcade Fire? I guess there were others in the early days.
You have virtually no chance of getting Bjork removed. The best you can hope for is a move to Prog Related.
Whoa!! I've never listened to Bjork so won't/can't comment on her. Just answering Henry's post, btw I like Arcade Fire.
Katatonia and My Dying Bride were both kicked off the site, but that was because of the way they were added rather than for their music (a PMT member added them without their being a vote). Of course, MDB have got back on when they were voted on properly last year.
I'm really beginning to wonder about the Crossover genre, several bands have recently been added that belong in PR at best (Tori Amos, NIN, Bjork). Plus, they now have a tendency to overturn previous rejections, Bjork being a case in point.
well I won' t disguss their placement in CO, they are okey with me then I find it a bit strage that some bands that defines Crossover whom also are used as a describtion of the crossing of pop and prog, are on prog related and not in Crossover, im talking of the major Art rock (pop) bands Queen, 10cc and Roxy Music whom all are sort of central bands in prog meats pop movement,
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 09:18
seventhsojourn wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
seventhsojourn wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
SolarLuna96 wrote:
Two Questions: Don't we need a normal prog party before we have a radical one? and Has any artist been kicked off the site before?
Yes, but I don't remember who it was. I think it was just in the early days, but I'm not positive.
Arcade Fire? I guess there were others in the early days.
You have virtually no chance of getting Bjork removed. The best you can hope for is a move to Prog Related.
Whoa!! I've never listened to Bjork so won't/can't comment on her. Just answering Henry's post, btw I like Arcade Fire.
Katatonia and My Dying Bride were both kicked off the site, but that was because of the way they were added rather than for their music (a PMT member added them without their being a vote). Of course, MDB have got back on when they were voted on properly last year.
I'm really beginning to wonder about the Crossover genre, several bands have recently been added that belong in PR at best (Tori Amos, NIN, Bjork). Plus, they now have a tendency to overturn previous rejections, Bjork being a case in point.
Joined: September 07 2007
Location: Middle-Earth
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 02:27
Logan wrote:
More ridiculous comparisons. What Bjork albums have you actually heard?
If this continues down the path of utter inanity, I would like to close this topic.
Of course I'd be happy to see this kept open if there is intelligent discussion.
Please, do it! I think there are enough "utter inanity"!
...and all essential was told yet!
Edited by Gandalff - December 09 2010 at 02:30
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Joined: September 07 2007
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 02:21
Anirml wrote:
I'll take Bjork over prog metal any day. Good addition!
Her music is not that progressive but a bit innovative.
Progressive and innovative are almost synonyms!
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
Joined: June 04 2010
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Posted: December 08 2010 at 21:11
Negoba wrote:
Bonnek wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Bjork's Medulla is a multi-layered experimental nearly all-vocal album with complex rhythms, harmony, thoughtful lyrics and virtuosic performances. It is one of the most progressive albums put out by a major artist in the last 10 years.
That's why she's here.
I'm not sure there's anything progressive at all about that album.Such vocal experimentation can be found all over the 90s, especially in avant/world music. I'm thinking of Iva Bittova, Mikhail Alperin, Dmitir Pokrovsky and probably countless others I don't know.It wouldn't surprise me if John Zorn has something similar as well.That being said I don't mind her being here.
I bought a VdGG album today when I could have gotten cool progressive vocal albums??? Dagbabbit.
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