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Poll Question: Most important element in music/prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2009 at 01:08
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Melody is the essence of music.


Well no, it isn't always the case.
It may be the case for the large majority of bands listed in PA perhaps and pretty much the majority of classical music (from all periods) jazz, rock/metal and pop music, but if melody were really the essence of music, then noise music wouldn't be considered music, but it is, and it's possible to create entire albums of musical works without any melody what so ever.
Merbow has written plenty of stuff completely devoid of melody, but it's still music to my ears, because it has other elements of music, proving melody is a component, but nothing says it's necessary to use it to in order to create music.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2009 at 00:57
Melody is the essence of music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 23:59
I voted structure, because a good structured piece of music doesn't necessarily have to rely on melody or rhythm. A well structured piece of music can make what would normally make a badly developed idea into a genius piece of work.
 
However, Shostakovich once said, "All aspects of music should be subordinate to melody and such melody should be clear and singable." I think most will agree that melody is the most important.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 22:57
Good post from David there.
A lot of the music in prog, well, let's face it, it's not as "out there" as some of the pure avant garde music and more extreme classical music forms.
Which means, a very large majority of prog rock is still written with a tonal center and along with that, we usually have melody.
Melody, contrary to the belief of many non musicians, is not just that kind of stuff you hear in symph prog or whatever but it can be as dissonant as hell to and melody does not have to conform to that popular belief that it has to be 'beautiful' sounding, but it's still a melody isn't it, since it's not atonal/atonality.
Yes, folks, that means all those seemingly 'noisy'  prog metal or avant bands you hear , have A LOT more melody than you realize, but it isn't always 'beautiful' and consonant, but melody is still present in many cases.

Of course, without melody, without the musical scales used to write melodies, we cannot really have harmony in the normal sense anyway, since the notes in chords that make up harmonies are derived from scales and modes in the first place, so from that, it was easy to pick melody over harmony by a long shot.
When someone writes melodies, often a rhythmic center can develop from that too.
And of course, to some extent, form and structure can rely on melodic components, but not always obviously.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 22:42
If we're talking about music in general, then I'd have to say that most everything is based around the melody. From melody, we get those musical phrases/motifs, through which a song develops the other three things mentioned. However, if we're talking about progressive rock specifically, than we'd want to focus most attention on the way songs are structured, as that's what sets prog apart from other genres of music in my opinion. Although melody is still very important in the big picture.

I voted melody though, as 20th century music places a great deal of importance on melody.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2009 at 22:09
Difficult poll, eh?
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