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MovingPictures07 
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Padraic
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 13:42 |
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MovingPictures07
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YesFan72
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 10:00 |
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Univers Zero. *runs from Koenji fans*
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 09:59 |
 song_of_copper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Time may tell a different story however as I quite like them both. Koenjihyakkei just has that really active edge that I love to hear implemented well in my music (Rush, Ozrics, Magma, Zappa, etc. all in completely different ways).
And yes, I am evil. 
The funny part of these Stardom polls is that they were chosen entirely randomly. 
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"...really active edge..." - I completely get what you mean. There's just so much going on all at once, like this ridiculously complicated onslaught of incident, and stuff is happening almost before you can gauge what's going on... I LOVE that in music. 
Yeah, it's almost like Koenji is full of people who should be locked up in insane asylums or are addicted to caffeine because the music is so in your face every second.
And yes, you are evil.
Don't forgot my evil red sock of doom! 
Chosen entirely randomly...? Like, out of a hat or something, or just off the top of your head?!
What I did was I placed all 32 bands with random placement in a list (whichever came first off the top of my head) and then used a number randomizer to select who would face each other. For example, the first chosen were Mahavishnu and Marillion, so if Mahavishnu was placed in the 15th rank out of those and the randomizer chose 15, then they would be picked. Marillion was then picked out of the 31 remaining bands. I'd simply keep doing that from a smaller and smaller sample size until I eventually was left with two remaining contenders, whom we have yet to see.
Turned out pretty well! 
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song_of_copper
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 04:20 |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 04:15 |
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 04:09 |
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UNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZEROUNIVERS ZERO
DID I MENTION....... UNIVERS ZERO? OBVIOUSLY NOT, SO, LET ME STATE WHO I VOTED FOR.... UNIVERS ZERO
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song_of_copper
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 04:03 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Time may tell a different story however as I quite like them both. Koenjihyakkei just has that really active edge that I love to hear implemented well in my music (Rush, Ozrics, Magma, Zappa, etc. all in completely different ways).
And yes, I am evil.
The funny part of these Stardom polls is that they were chosen entirely randomly.
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"...really active edge..." - I completely get what you mean. There's just so much going on all at once, like this ridiculously complicated onslaught of incident, and stuff is happening almost before you can gauge what's going on... I LOVE that in music. And yes, you are evil. Chosen entirely randomly...? Like, out of a hat or something, or just off the top of your head?!
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song_of_copper
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 03:57 |
Logan wrote:
Other people have expressed how I feel. For me as well, Univers Zero rather is outdone on the chamber prog front by Art Zoyd, as Koenjihyakkei is eclipsed in Zeuhl by Magma (moreso). I really like both, and Angherr Shisppa is terrific, bu UZ has more albums that I return to, and I find it rather less superficial. It has more depth for me. Took a while for me to really warn up to UZ (which wasn't the case with Present or Art Zoyd); whereas Koenjihyakkei I loved at first listen, but hasn't held my interest to the same extent as UZ.
I turn to my UZ albums more than Koenjihyakkei -- though I turn to Koenjihyakkei tracks often. I think it was went I got Uzed (already had the earlier albums, and some later ones) that I really got into UZ in a very big way (very accessible album, I think). Puts on "Triomphe des Mouches" off Ceux du Dehors -- yeah, good stuff. Both rank amongst my favourite bands, but UZ is quite an easy choice for me.
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Koenji does seem to have that 'instant appeal' for a lot of people! (Well, RIO/avant/Zeuhl inclined people, anyhow...) This is a classic poll, really, because one band is like the ultimate in "Wahey! FUN! Woo! Giggles!" and the other is all like "This will hurt but if you are patient you will come to enjoy it..."  ! How on earth does one choose?!
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song_of_copper
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 03:52 |
NaturalScience wrote:
Ouch.
I think I have to go with Univers Zero.
Though I may enjoy Angherr Shisspa more than any UZ album I've heard.
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As usual we're on the same wavelength... (I want to live in a world where Angherr Shisspa gets thrown on at parties, and UZ is played in supermarkets. )
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Logan
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 00:12 |
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Other people have expressed how I feel. For me as well, Univers Zero rather is outdone on the chamber prog front by Art Zoyd, as Koenjihyakkei is eclipsed in Zeuhl by Magma (moreso). I really like both, and Angherr Shisppa is terrific, bu UZ has more albums that I return to, and I find it rather less superficial. It has more depth for me. Took a while for me to really warn up to UZ (which wasn't the case with Present or Art Zoyd); whereas Koenjihyakkei I loved at first listen, but hasn't held my interest to the same extent as UZ.
I turn to my UZ albums more than Koenjihyakkei -- though I turn to Koenjihyakkei tracks often. I think it was went I got Uzed (already had the earlier albums, and some later ones) that I really got into UZ in a very big way (very accessible album, I think). Puts on "Triomphe des Mouches" off Ceux du Dehors -- yeah, good stuff. Both rank amongst my favourite bands, but UZ is quite an easy choice for me.
Edited by Logan - October 12 2008 at 00:14
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 00:11 |
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Both bands are obviously amazing, but i much prefer the style of Univers Zero.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Padraic
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 23:19 |
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Ouch.
I think I have to go with Univers Zero.
Though I may enjoy Angherr Shisspa more than any UZ album I've heard.
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Sckxyss
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 23:15 |
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Sckxyss
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 23:13 |
This is cruel! Two of my all-time favourite bands.. My gut's telling me to go with UZ though. Maybe if Koenji comes out with one more amazing album, my vote'll change, but so far UZ have produced a greater quantity of solid albums, and my vote goes with them.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 18:04 |
song_of_copper wrote:
I've just surprised myself by voting for Univers Zero. 
Koenji is amazing, and the moment I heard it I loved it.
Univers Zero took me a long while to appreciate.
Both bands' music is the kind in which you hear something new every time you listen to it...
Tough choice, but I picked UZ, I guess because it's more of a hard-won love... it gives me more every time I hear it, in contrast to Koenjihyakkei, which is just as wonderful as that first listen... aargghh, you really do have a knack for these evil tough polls, young master Alex!
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Both took me some time to appreciate. I'm probably still delving further into my appreciation for UZ, as I love them when I listen to them and am in the mood for it... but don't bring them out nearly as often as say, Henry Cow or SMM. Koenjihyakkei took me a few listens, but they hit me in an entirely different way. Yoshida rapidly climbed my list of favorite and most inspiring drummers I've ever heard, and he definitely cracks my top 5 now. The sheer dynamic brilliance of theirs, for my taste currently at least, outstrips UZ by a bit. Time may tell a different story however as I quite like them both. Koenjihyakkei just has that really active edge that I love to hear implemented well in my music (Rush, Ozrics, Magma, Zappa, etc. all in completely different ways). And yes, I am evil. The funny part of these Stardom polls is that they were chosen entirely randomly.
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song_of_copper
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 17:54 |
I've just surprised myself by voting for Univers Zero. Koenji is amazing, and the moment I heard it I loved it. Univers Zero took me a long while to appreciate. Both bands' music is the kind in which you hear something new every time you listen to it... Tough choice, but I picked UZ, I guess because it's more of a hard-won love... it gives me more every time I hear it, in contrast to Koenjihyakkei, which is just as wonderful as that first listen... aargghh, you really do have a knack for these evil tough polls, young master Alex!
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Rocktopus
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 17:39 |
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Two bands I kind of love, from two genres I truly love. But unlike my favorite bands of Zeuhl and RIO (and probably my two favorites of all bands) Magma and Art Zoyd, I rarely listen to a full album by any of them.
Still not that hard: UZ gets my vote. Dense is one of the best tracks ever recorded.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 11 2008 at 17:39 |
Koenjihyakkei of course. Yoshi's easily as good as Vander, although saying that might get some stones thrown my way.
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