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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2008 at 07:24
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Maybe I'm a bit too narrow-minded to capture the essence of RIO and should I take some time to read the reviews of their albums since some of them score a 4+ average instead of the three that I should give them, based on these samples. Correct me of I'm wrong...Ermm


You're wrong. Neither you or Micky (which he later found out) should judge a band like Samla based on a couple of random samples. Only Progmetal and Neoprogbands can be dismissed as simple as that.

Three of these battles has been frustratingly difficult too choose:
 
A8  Samla v. Radiohead Love both. Voted Radiohead as they've meant a lot to me ever since Kid A.
A4:  The Residents v. Tangerine Dream    (12-15) Love both. Voted Residents. Probably the first (experimental) progressive music I got into 
A2:  Gong v. Area    (18-19) Love both. Voted Area, not sure why.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2008 at 06:22
Radiohead. SMM may be good musicians using the major part of their talents for the making of would-be background music for Comedy Capers-movies, by occasion in a 5/4 or 5/8 time signature. Maybe I'm a bit too narrow-minded to capture the essence of RIO and should I take some time to read the reviews of their albums since some of them score a 4+ average instead of the three that I should give them, based on these samples. Correct me of I'm wrong...Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 22:28
Radiohead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 21:46
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Radiohead easily. I wish that they weren't viewed in a different light on this site simply b/c they're......POPULAR in the mainstream view. There, I said it, you can uncover your ears again.LOL

mmm hmmm. ive been getting into radiohead a lot these last 3 or 4 months. amnesiac, kid a, ok computer, hail to the thief. . . love them. radiohead is one of the most important bands of the 90's and 00's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 21:24
Oh come on, I still unsure about how prog Radiohead is... What's happening here??

Samla is great, more than a "funny band" (as some "prog listeners" said before) they're a very smart RIO band featuring some of the most complex arrangements ever heard, at the level of Frank Zappa IMO
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 20:47
Samla Mammas Manna without doubt for me. I have a hard time enjoying Radiohead's music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 18:11
maudlin of the Well, Kayo Dot, Tartar Lamb, Toby Driver, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Mr. Bungle, Estradasphere, Secret Chiefs 3, Miasma & The Carousel of Headless Horses, Idiot Flesh, Friendly Bears, Time of Orchids, Subterranean Masquerade, Ulver, etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:55
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

My new-found love for Radiohead compels me. SMM is exactly the kind of avant-garde music that I despise, unfortunately.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:42
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I can't understand how a barely Prog Alternative band is winning to a pioneer from Sweden.
 
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Probably because Radiohead is more than barely Prog Alternative.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:41
Radiohead easily. I wish that they weren't viewed in a different light on this site simply because they're......POPULAR in the mainstream view. There, I said it, you can uncover your ears again.LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:32
My new-found love for Radiohead compels me. SMM is exactly the kind of avant-garde music that I despise, unfortunately.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:10
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Micky: I'm glad you liked it, I thought it would appeal to you.  Maltid is actually not much of a RIO-esque album, aside from the fact that the release predates the official start of the RIO movement by five years.  And I think it would be accessible to most classic prog rockers -- it's zany (hardly altogether zany), but it does have musical chops.  I like the folk elements (I have read it amusingly described as "Polka in Opposition").  I think of it a bit as Zappa meets Canterbury meets symph bands..., and even hear a bit of Allman Brothers there.


yes definitely much more to my liking...  you definitely whetted the appetite to hear the rest of the album...  you got me.  I'll see about getting it.Clap



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:44
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Micky: I'm glad you liked it, I thought it would appeal to you.  Maltid is actually not much of a RIO-esque album, aside from the fact that the release predates the official start of the RIO movement by five years.  And I think it would be accessible to most classic prog rockers -- it's zany (hardly altogether zany), but it does have musical chops.  I like the folk elements (I have read it amusingly described as "Polka in Opposition").  I think of it a bit as Zappa meets Canterbury meets symph bands..., and even hear a bit of Allman Brothers there.


I totally agree with you. Maltid has been a favorite of mine for a long time. I myself often refered to it as being polka in opposition. I told that to Lars Hollmer when I've talked to him last year and he thought it was funny and true.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:40
Enjoying both and having seen both of them live, Samla Mammas Manna by far.

SMM are kind of a unique band and I really haven't heard their sound somewhere else in music.

Radiohead (though I'm aware and I admit that they are pioneers and excellent in what they do) are not as exciting and groundbreaking for me (though still pretty good with in the mood).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:22
Micky: I'm glad you liked it, I thought it would appeal to you.  Maltid is actually not much of a RIO-esque album, aside from the fact that the release predates the official start of the RIO movement by five years.  And I think it would be accessible to most classic prog rockers -- it's zany (hardly altogether zany), but it does have musical chops.  I like the folk elements (I have read it amusingly described as "Polka in Opposition").  I think of it a bit as Zappa meets Canterbury meets symph bands..., and even hear a bit of Allman Brothers there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:16
Samla is fun, but Radiohead too can be fun in subtle ways ("Idioteque," for example), and I find their music more powerful, emotional, evocative in general, etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:37
Samla Mammas Manna by far for me, i can't stand Radiohead. SMM albums are far more chalenging prog  than any Radiohead albums, and is more intristing and fun to listen than Radiohead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:12
Radiohead by leaps, bounds, and other large jumps


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:09
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Samla Mammas Manna is much better than a decent band, in my opinion, and this is one of my favourite albums -->


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the sample though...  nice... but not exactly inviting for those not predisposed to dispensing melody and traditional things that make music a pleasure to listen to LOL


Don't judge the album based on just that fun PA track -- it's much more than that. Wish I found a myspace page, but youtube has some music (really one should hear the whole album) -->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXopRuongM4


that was good... much better than the sample here. Clap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:07
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I can't understand how a barely Prog Alternative band is winning to a pioneer from Sweden.
 
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No longer winning, Ivan, no longer...6-5 nowWink
 
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