PA's Battle to Stardom A8: Samla v. Radiohead
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Topic: PA's Battle to Stardom A8: Samla v. Radiohead
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Subject: PA's Battle to Stardom A8: Samla v. Radiohead
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 13:40
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One of the founding RIO bands and one of the most popular and controversial modern "prog" bands to exist. Both are very unique and have influenced many artists. Which one is your favorite and why?
Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages. SMM's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=621 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=621 Radiohead's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1492 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1492 As always, discussions are encouraged. Recap: Round 1 A1: A2: A3: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. A4: A5: Can v. A6: A7: Van der Graaf Generator v. A1: forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 A2: forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 A3: forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 A4: forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 A5: forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 A6: forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 A7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:02
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Radiohead.. by miles... that RIO sh*t is cute.. and good for a laugh and to impress your buddies with how intellectual and out there your tastes are for me... give me real music... Radiohead.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:24
| 4-0 right now in favour of Radiohead -- that has changed with my vote. Samla Mammas Manna very, very easily for me. It's way more fun. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:31
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This is purely unfair. Samla who are a decent band who make amusing music sometimes (but not as well as their RIO contemporaries) versus the greatest band of all time (lol, fanboy).
I didn't even need to post and you'd all know for whom and why I voted if you've been on PA before  -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:34
Samla Mammas Manna is much better than a decent band, in my opinion, and this is one of my favourite albums -->
1973 ../album.asp?id=3166 - Mĺltid 4.43 (30 ratings) EDIT: I wonder how Zamla Mammaz Manna would have fared? Just to mention one of my favourite albums of the 80s.... 
1980 ../album.asp?id=3176 - Familjesprickor (Family Cracks) 4.30 (20 ratings) |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:42
the sample though... nice... but not exactly inviting for those not predisposed to dispensing melody and traditional things that make music a pleasure to listen to  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:44
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A total no brainer for me, although I will admit to a fondness for Radiohead's Kid A and Amnesiac albums. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:50
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I can't understand how a barely Prog Alternative band is winning to a pioneer from Sweden.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:52
Don't judge the album based on just that fun PA track -- it's much more than that. Wish I found a myspace page, but youtube has some music (really one should hear the whole album) --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXopRuongM4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXopRuongM4 |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:54
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groovy.. thanks Greg... always listen with an open mind. .but judge with sharpened tongue hahhaha checked it out. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 14:58
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Samla no question.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:07
No longer winning, Ivan, no longer...6-5 now
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:09
that was good... much better than the sample here. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:12
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Radiohead by leaps, bounds, and other large jumps
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 15:37
| Samla Mammas Manna by far for me, i can't stand Radiohead. SMM albums are far more chalenging prog than any Radiohead albums, and is more intristing and fun to listen than Radiohead. |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:16
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Samla is fun, but Radiohead too can be fun in subtle ways ("Idioteque," for example), and I find their music more powerful, emotional, evocative in general, etc. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:22
| Micky: I'm glad you liked it, I thought it would appeal to you. Maltid is actually not much of a RIO-esque album, aside from the fact that the release predates the official start of the RIO movement by five years. And I think it would be accessible to most classic prog rockers -- it's zany (hardly altogether zany), but it does have musical chops. I like the folk elements (I have read it amusingly described as "Polka in Opposition"). I think of it a bit as Zappa meets Canterbury meets symph bands..., and even hear a bit of Allman Brothers there. |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:40
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Enjoying both and having seen both of them live, Samla Mammas Manna by far. SMM are kind of a unique band and I really haven't heard their sound somewhere else in music. Radiohead (though I'm aware and I admit that they are pioneers and excellent in what they do) are not as exciting and groundbreaking for me (though still pretty good with in the mood). -------------  
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 16:44
I totally agree with you. Maltid has been a favorite of mine for a long time. I myself often refered to it as being polka in opposition. I told that to Lars Hollmer when I've talked to him last year and he thought it was funny and true. BTW, here's a thought for Lars who's been sick in bed for a while now.  -------------
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:10
yes definitely much more to my liking... you definitely whetted the appetite to hear the rest of the album... you got me. I'll see about getting it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:32
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My new-found love for Radiohead compels me. SMM is exactly the kind of avant-garde music that I despise, unfortunately.
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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:41
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Radiohead easily. I wish that they weren't viewed in a different light on this site simply because they're......POPULAR in the mainstream view. There, I said it, you can uncover your ears again.
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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:42
Probably because Radiohead is more than barely Prog Alternative. -------------
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 17:55
Do you like anything so-called avant-garde, Avantgardehead? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 18:11
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maudlin of the Well, Kayo Dot, Tartar Lamb, Toby Driver, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Mr. Bungle, Estradasphere, Secret Chiefs 3, Miasma & The Carousel of Headless Horses, Idiot Flesh, Friendly Bears, Time of Orchids, Subterranean Masquerade, Ulver, etc.
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Posted By: Scoppioingola
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 20:47
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Samla Mammas Manna without doubt for me. I have a hard time enjoying Radiohead's music. |
Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 21:24
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Oh come on, I still unsure about how prog Radiohead is... What's happening here??
Samla is great, more than a "funny band" (as some "prog listeners" said before) they're a very smart RIO band featuring some of the most complex arrangements ever heard, at the level of Frank Zappa IMO ------------- This is not my beautiful house... |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 21:46
mmm hmmm. ive been getting into radiohead a lot these last 3 or 4 months. amnesiac, kid a, ok computer, hail to the thief. . . love them. radiohead is one of the most important bands of the 90's and 00's. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 20 2008 at 22:28
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Radiohead.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 06:22
Radiohead. SMM may be good musicians using the major part of their talents for the making of would-be background music for Comedy Capers-movies, by occasion in a 5/4 or 5/8 time signature. Maybe I'm a bit too narrow-minded to capture the essence of RIO and should I take some time to read the reviews of their albums since some of them score a 4+ average instead of the three that I should give them, based on these samples. Correct me of I'm wrong...
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 07:24
You're wrong. Neither you or Micky (which he later found out) should judge a band like Samla based on a couple of random samples. Only Progmetal and Neoprogbands can be dismissed as simple as that. Three of these battles has been frustratingly difficult too choose: A8 Samla v. Radiohead Love both. Voted Radiohead as they've meant a lot to me ever since Kid A. A4: A2: ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 11:27
Moving in a full circle? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 11:56
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Samla for me, one of the best RIO bands. Wacky, jazzy, fun and creative stuff!
I really enjoy Radiohead as well, although they never was a favorite of mine.
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Alberto Muńoz
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 14:00
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this time Samla put the 20-20. hope Samla wins -------------  |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 14:12
I might have to resort to alternate accounts for this one  ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 14:22
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I don't really mind who wins, here. I do know that I listen to Radiohead more, for singalong purposes, so I voted the same way, but Samla is one of those bands you know more people would like if they really stopped to listen - along with Stormy Six I think they're the easiest RIO group to appreciate and some of their music really is classic. ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 14:28
| I went with Radiohead just off of Ok Computer. It's one of those albums that I can listen to over and over again and not tire of. |
Posted By: GosudO
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 16:57
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I voted for Samla Mammas Manna. 21 - 21 right now ! |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 17:25
This is such an amazing result so far...an almost unknown Swedish rio band holding its own against the mighty mainstream Radiohead...........................This is like .!!!......Sweden eliminating Brazil in a world cup
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 17:33
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 17:42
Not true. People here tend to dislike Radiohead because they're popular and don't make progressive music in the typical sense. Therefore they'd always be voted against, no matter who the opponent  ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 17:56
That's certainly not true. People has voted for the one they like the most, so stop your sobbing. Its 21- 21 up against Samla, who's musically on level with the absolute best (as in Zappa). ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 21 2008 at 21:14
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Samla and Radiohead are pretty much oposites. Samla is very direct, what you hear is what you get, it´s fun but there is no depth to it. Radiohead on the contrary is all about layers and new depth and is not usually direct... nor fun Radiohead by far ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 11:20
I don't agree Febus:
The problem is that many, not all members (including myself) believe that Radiohead is not a Prog band, and shouldn't be in Prog Archives and of course won't vote for them, there are others that believeRadiophead are Prog, while Samlas Mammas Manna is an icon of early Prog in Scandinavia.
In my case I can't stand whining voives as Thom Yorke's, seems to me that all this alternative bands (Don't say they are not alternative
) search for a singer trying to sound as depressive as Kurt Cobain.In order to be compared with Brazil, Radiohead would need a N° 1 album in our charts, well they don't even have an album in the top 100.
The highest rating of a SMM is 4.43 and three more albums over 4.18, compared with Radiohead who have one single album with 4.00 and the rest between 3.89 and 2.28
So it is not like Sweden vs Brazil, because Radiohead is not remotely like Brazil in football, if you want to compare a band with Brazil, maybe Genesis or Yes, this are almighty bands in Prog Archives
And a band who has 4 out of their 6 albums with an average over 4.00 plus one with 3.96, is top notch.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 11:28
| Radiohead easily. Kid A, Amnesiac and In Rainbows are absolutely incredible! |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 11:34
I understand your point, Ivan but what i meant is lately we have quite a young and younger (than us) crowd here on PA who grow up with Radiohead playing in the background or on the radio...They are familiar with the name RADIOHEAD (it's all over the place) and have never heard of SAMMa, an obscure 70s band out of Sweden......and to see them almost neck to neck , i found that stunning!
Of course , we know Genesis would
be your Brazil......until one day Peru will beat them of course http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=85883473"> |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 11:51
Don't be funny, we are happy if we win Venezuela and Bolivia
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 12:02
| ^ Ivan, I remember Peru very famously beating Scotland at World Cup '78! 3-1 if I recall. You are similar age to me so I'm sure you'll remember that! |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 14:34
Radiohead  ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: acelxpro
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 17:21
| Samla, by leaps and bounds. |
Posted By: Grobsch
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 12:59
I was just listening to 'Kid A' and thinking about the courage they needed to release the album, just like in the past Samla did with Maltid. I wrote a small review of 'Kid A' saying exactly how this album carried Radiohead to a level of experimentations I found in RIO bands. Maltid is top ten of my favourite albums ever... so Samla is my favourite, allthough each day I like Radiohead more... ------------- My Webpages: http://www.goblinx.com.br/en - http://www.goblinx.com.br/en http://grobsch.deviantart.com - http://grobsch.deviantart.com |