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goose
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 03:20 |
NaturalScience wrote:
For those who don't need the PC for a lot of games and/or specialized apps, I heartily recommend Ubuntu.
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For sure, why not? I have to use OS 9, OS X, and to a lesser extent XP at work, but I've run nothing but Ubuntu at home and it does everything I need. And it's much easier to update to a new version because I don't have to go out to some shop and buy a CD, it just does it for me every six months. Wonderful!
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Peter
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 02:05 |
Well, if anyone is still interested, I opted for another PC in the end (just fired it up today, in fact -- up too late trying it out).
The Apple was just too big a leap into the unknown, and this PC seems to be a better gaming platform. I also wanted it to be fully compatible with the network at work (PC), and with all of the games my kids and I already have.
It is very powerful, apparently, with a really good video card, a "quadcore" processor (whatever that is ), a 22" flatscreen Acer monitor, Microsoft Vista, and all the latest bells & whistles.
Cost me just under 2000 Canadian (that's a little over $2000 US) -- just about the most one could spend for just a generic tower & a 22" monitor.
I like it -- & my kids love it.
Maybe I'll still get an Apple some day....
Goodnight, techies!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: August 26 2007 at 23:55 |
1800iareyay wrote:
I love my new mac. That is my technical input. |
I don't understand most of what you guys are talking about, but I understood that.
Thanks for all of the input, though. From what I can gather, there seems to be no major drawbacks to a Mac, and they're generally virus & freezeup free. That sounds good.
I'll let you all know here what I eventually do.
Edited by Peter - August 26 2007 at 23:56
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: August 25 2007 at 16:51 |
rileydog22 wrote:
I've barely used it (booted a couple of times in Ubuntu and Knoppix in order to move around some system files Windows wouldn't let me touch), but I can't help but love Linux. It's just so awesome that everything is non-profit and open-sourced, put together for free by the warm-hearted coders of the world.
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 23:06 |
And, if I'm not mistaken, Windows 1.0 borrowed quite heavily from the Apple Lisa operating system. So it could be argued that Microsoft has been stealing ideas from Apple ever since Microsoft was founded.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 23:00 |
Loser
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 22:50 |
rileydog22 wrote:
I've barely used it (booted a couple of times in Ubuntu and Knoppix in order to move around some system files Windows wouldn't let me touch), but I can't help but love Linux. It's just so awesome that everything is non-profit and open-sourced, put together for free by the warm-hearted coders of the world.
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I've been running Linux at work (previous job, and now at my new one) for the past five years. I've most been running Redhat/Fedora, but now I'm sold on Ubuntu. Linux has made great strides in that time - used to be you had to edit config files just to get your damn monitor to work properly, but with the latest Ubuntu on my laptop, everything "just works" (including wireless, which used to be a real PITA). For those who don't need the PC for a lot of games and/or specialized apps, I heartily recommend Ubuntu.
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rileydog22
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 22:38 |
I've barely used it (booted a couple of times in Ubuntu and Knoppix in order to move around some system files Windows wouldn't let me touch), but I can't help but love Linux. It's just so awesome that everything is non-profit and open-sourced, put together for free by the warm-hearted coders of the world.
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 22:09 |
bhikkhu wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:
And, besides, PC stole ideas from Mac OS X for Vista.
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Vista was Windows playing catch-up with OSX. Now that it has finally arrived, Apple is about to unveil Leopard.
Oh, and I don't know why we didn't mention this before, but if you absolutely can't live without Windows, there are Intel-Macs.
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I did mention this before. And besides, Linux FTW!!
Edited by NaturalScience - August 24 2007 at 22:09
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1800iareyay
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 21:58 |
I love my new mac. That is my technical input.
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 21:54 |
Shakespeare wrote:
And, besides, PC stole ideas from Mac OS X for Vista.
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Vista was Windows playing catch-up with OSX. Now that it has finally arrived, Apple is about to unveil Leopard.
Oh, and I don't know why we didn't mention this before, but if you absolutely can't live without Windows, there are Intel-Macs.
Edited by bhikkhu - August 24 2007 at 21:57
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Shakespeare
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 16:48 |
And, besides, PC stole ideas from Mac OS X for Vista.
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 03:40 |
I generally defend PC's, but I just can't find it in my heart to defend Vista. It's the same as XP, except they uglified the color scheme, killed the Run menu and Telnet ( ), made the start menu less convenient, and added a few security fixes that they probably could have just put in a Windows Update (and that are unnecessary if you have anti-virus software, which everyone should). That hardly seems worth paying the money for an upgrade. I'm just fine with XP, thanks.
Edited by rileydog22 - August 24 2007 at 03:41
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 03:04 |
Window Vista has done a lot to improve PC security as the built in firewall is very good. You don't need to run an anti-virus program like Norton which hogs your computer's resources, instead go for one like Avast which is barely noticable and finally don't use Internet Explorer as it's full of holes for Viruses and Spyware to get through, Firefox and Opera are much bettter options for web browsing.
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 01:07 |
rileydog22 wrote:
bhikkhu wrote:
There is really one basic question that needs to be asked. Are you a big fan of viruses, spyware (and the prigrams you need to have constantly running to combat this) , and freeze-ups? | Oh man; it's incredible how inconvenient it is to run AdAware and Spybot once a week. I can honestly say I've never had a problem with viruses or spyware, and that anybody with a fully-functioning brain can quite easily avoid problems without any inconvenience. |
I just find it counterproductive. On my old PC, I had to have three programs in constant operation. If I didn't, the freeze-ups would be even more frequent (in other words, it happened anyway). With the Mac, I don't have to run any protective software, and it never freezes.
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rileydog22
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Posted: August 24 2007 at 00:23 |
bhikkhu wrote:
There is really one basic question that needs to be asked. Are you a big fan of viruses, spyware (and the prigrams you need to have constantly running to combat this) , and freeze-ups? |
Oh man; it's incredible how inconvenient it is to run AdAware and Spybot once a week. I can honestly say I've never had a problem with viruses or spyware, and that anybody with a fully-functioning brain can quite easily avoid problems without any inconvenience.
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Posted: August 23 2007 at 20:42 |
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Posted: August 23 2007 at 20:38 |
Wait, did you mean OS (system) updates, or program updates? Anyway, it's mostly the same for program updates too - you don't need to restart after each program updated, it only says the update will take effect only after restart (which is actually only a precaution, usually the update effects apply even before the restart).
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 23 2007 at 20:37 |
My friend got a Mac laptop before college, and he took it everywhere he went with our friends. Everywhere. And he was on it all the time, practically. I believe it took his soul, much in the way the Aborigines of Australia believe photographs can take your soul. For this reason, I suggest a PC.
Edited by stonebeard - August 23 2007 at 20:38
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