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Scratchy
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Posted: February 12 2005 at 13:11 |
I wouldn't consider Opeth as Prog Metal
They started out as Black Metal,then Symphonic Black Metal.I would consider 'Damnation' as Progressive Folk - mainly due to the influence of Steven Wilson(band member,who is vertially Porcupine Tree).
I would consider Porcupine Tree to be Neo Prog or New Neo Prog now.
My favourite - prog end - of Symphonic Black Metal album would be 'How to measure a planet' by The Gathering.This album is certainly more progressive than any Opeth album.Their latest studio offering has gone more in the Trip Hop direction though,similar to some of Radiohead's offering's/ or Mezzanine by Massive Attack.
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: February 12 2005 at 12:16 |
I gotta vote Tool. as much as I love DT, Danny Carey and those tribal rythms are always impressive.
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lucas
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Posted: February 12 2005 at 05:33 |
A PIEDI NUDI, the most symphonic of all prog metal bands.
ALTURA is good too.
QUEENSRYCHE were the best at their beginnings.
Note that Spastic Ink and LTE are not prog metal but fusion-metal.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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arkitek
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Posted: February 12 2005 at 05:21 |
Velvetclown wrote:
Dream Theater Rule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
well said velvetclown! they do rule!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: February 08 2005 at 07:36 |
Dream Theater
Pain Of Salvation
Freak Kitchen
That concludes the votes of the Swedish jury !!!
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Emperor
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Posted: February 08 2005 at 07:35 |
greenback wrote:
2-Mercyful Fate
Mercyful Fate is one of the rare metal prog bands (not prog metal). people say it is black metal, but i find them metal prog too.
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Yes! Mercyfull Fate/King Diamond is really clever and original band.
But where is it in the list????
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Emperor
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Posted: February 08 2005 at 07:33 |
As there's no King Diamond at the list, I've voted for Savatage. Any of their album since 1989 is made with a stable very high quality.
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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starofsirius
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Posted: February 08 2005 at 00:22 |
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"I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down."
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aqualung28
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Posted: February 08 2005 at 00:11 |
I voted for Opeth but Fantomas is equally good, if not better. Mike Patton is God!
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"O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love
'n you should have us all
O' you should have us fall"
"Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart
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John Gargo
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Posted: February 08 2005 at 00:07 |
My current top 5 of prog-metal...
1. Psychotic Waltz... One of the most underrated bands of all time. I always described their debut as "what would happen if Iron Maiden collectively dropped acid and decided to write a proggressive metal album." Heavily influenced by everything from Jethro Tull, the NWOBHM scene, and Pink Floyd, "A Social Grace" is one of the greatest albums of all time." Their later material goes into a more groove approach that, although not quite as good, still manages to impress. So far, it's the band that best combines two of my biggest passions in music... prog and metal.
2. Opeth - The band that helped me to tolerate death metal vocals and get me even more obsessed with prog-bands like Camel, Opeth is a fantastic example of extreme musical dynamics. At first glance, it would not appear that that lucid and soft acoustic could work within the context of death metal, but Opeth takes preconceived notions on both genres of music and shatters them. More than any other band, Opeth has opened up so many doors for me.
3. Pain of Salvation - A more recent obsession... one part Andrew Lloyd Webber, one part metal, one part unknown, PoS are a band that are hard to pin down musically... there are so many things going on in each song that it's almost absurdly hilarious how well it all comes together. Unlike so many prog-metal acts which simply take Dream Theater's style and ape it, here's a band that does something daringly original and does it well. Brilliant.
4. Fates Warning - Often considered the "first" proggressive metal band, Fates Warning is certainly one of the best. Starting off as a complex power/thrash group with John Arch's complex vocal lines, the band eventually evolved to creating emotional and understated mood pieces. For the past decade, they've been doing some of the most original work in the genre... superb.
5. Cynic - Also worthy of mention here are other technical/jazzy metal bands that came out around the time Cynic released their magnum opus "Focus," specifically Atheist's second album "Elements" and recently Spiral Architect's debut as well. Also would like to mention Arcturus, an avant-garde post-black metal band who's last album, "The Sham Mirrors" is certainly one of the most progressive and unique metal albums I've ever heard...
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Manunkind
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Posted: February 07 2005 at 08:40 |
Cynic. They had the most guts and they deserved better .
I and a lot of my friends like DT, but James LaBrie's singing style keeps us from loving it.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Jethro Fish
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Posted: February 07 2005 at 05:42 |
PAIN OF SALVATION!!!!!
A nod and a wink to Symphony X who come second on my list.
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New cd: Salva "Left to burn", out now
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Valarius
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Posted: February 07 2005 at 03:13 |
Velvetclown wrote:
Dream Theater Rule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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scrivener
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Posted: February 07 2005 at 03:12 |
There is a difference between "best" and "favorite," and since the poll asked for the best, I gave Dream Theater its props. I disagree that DT lacks substance: There is a glut of European prog-metal that seems to understand the style without understanding the soul. DT just doesn't fit that description (although LaBrie's Mullmuzzler nearly does)--no band that counts Mike Portnoy among its members can be said to lack substance or soul.
As for favorites, I am torn between Vanden Plas and Blind Guardian.
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Reading maketh a full man; conference a ready man; and writing an exact man. --- Francis Bacon
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chorus of one
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Posted: February 07 2005 at 01:03 |
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Posted: February 06 2005 at 16:54 |
No mention of Rush in the poll? Rush are the godfather's of Progressive Metal.
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Metropolis
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Posted: February 06 2005 at 16:08 |
plodder wrote:
No mention of Porcupine Tree?
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You can't really call Porcupine Tree metal, even In Absentia, their
heaviest album, is just hard rock, nae quite metal, and most of their
other stuff is psychedelic rock
Oh, and PoS rule, I voted for them
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We Lost the Skyline............
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Joren
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Posted: February 06 2005 at 15:00 |
greenback wrote:
1-Dream Theater (images & words)
2-Mercyful Fate
Mercyful Fate is one of the rare metal prog bands (not prog metal). people say it is black metal, but i find them metal prog too.
by the way, the electric guitar of Pain of Salvation is too alternative to qualify them as metal.
if uriah heep is metal, then Nektar is metal too.
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Mercyful Fate are great!
One of the best metal bands ever!
Edited by Joren
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plodder
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Posted: February 06 2005 at 14:56 |
No mention of Porcupine Tree?
Out of that list I voted for Queensryche.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: February 06 2005 at 13:44 |
Dream Theater Rule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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