Blind Guardian

Not to be taken as critisim towards the addition or the Prog Metal team, these are my thoughts after reading this topic and the Prog Metal chart:

Since there are so many metal bands being added to the Prog Metal genre that doesn't always fit perfectly with that description, I think it would be a good idea to split up Prog Metal into several styles, like Prog Rock is split into Symphonic, Art Rock, Prog Folk, Neo Prog etc.  I think it would reduce the controversy surrounding some additions, and make it easier for people to accept the existance of Prog Metal. For example, Opeth, Dream Theater and Between the Buried and Me are all very different bands, and with such a diversity of styles labeled as one, there's no wonder that people start to turn against Prog Metal. Labeling multiple sub genres as one and thereby increasing the diversity within the sub genre so much so that sub sub genres are needed makes Prog Metal look very weak, and it's value as a valid sub genre very questionable.

Prog Metal surely started as a sub genre to Prog Rock, but as far as I'm concerned it has evolved so much since that it has grown into a genre of its own, with a host of sub genres such as Progressive Power Metal, Symphonic Prog Metal, Progressive Death Metal etc. I see prog metal as a parallel genre to Prog Rock rather than a sub genre, which is what this site lists it as. I think it might be time to separate the two, to sort of kick Prog Metal out of the nest, and acknowledge it as a valid genre.

Orion-GER wrote: Well, surely BG have some progressive elements in their sound, no problem at all with it. But only because they have, they don't play Progressive Metal. For example: If a band has Death Metal, Blues or Country elements in its sound, is it a Death Metal, Blues or Country band than? Is METALLICA Progressive Metal because of "The Thing That Should Not Be"? Is WATCHTOWER Thrash Metal because of "Energetic Disassembly"? Is IRON MAIDEN Progressive Metal because of "Rime Of The Ancient Mariner"? ... @MikeEnRegalia Well, MANOWAR are about -666 Prog IMHO

Metallica have done much more in a progressive sense than "The Thing That Should Not Be" (for instance, the entire "...And Justice for All" album). As to Iron Maiden, I advise you check their latest album "Dance of Death", with the title-track and "Paschendale" being prime examples of prog-metal. And, from what I've heard around the Web, their next album will definitely be even more progressive. But I know I'm fighting a losing battle here...

^ I guess you can call Watchtower "Proto-Prog-Thrash" ... they recorded some pretty advanced stuff in a time when bands like Metallica and Slayer (I know ... and a bunch of other bands) defined the genre of Thrash Metal. They were pretty much ahead of their time ... much later many other bands influenced by Thrash began to mix that style with progressive elements, arriving at a sound which somewhat resembles what Watchtower did right from the start ... Spiral Architect are a good example.

You call WATCHTOWER Thrash Metal?
Anyway, come on, I'm just trying to provoke you, get angry...

Well...

What about HELSTAR's "Nosferatu" than?

Well, surely BG have some progressive elements in their sound, no problem at all with it. But only because they have, they don't play Progressive Metal. For example: If a band has Death Metal, Blues or Country elements in its sound, is it a Death Metal, Blues or Country band than?
Is METALLICA Progressive Metal because of "The Thing That Should Not Be"?
Is WATCHTOWER Thrash Metal because of "Energetic Disassembly"?
Is IRON MAIDEN Progressive Metal because of "Rime Of The Ancient Mariner"?
...

@MikeEnRegalia
Well, MANOWAR are about -666 Prog IMHO


Edited by Orion-GER - July 05 2006 at 17:13

BUT MIKEY MANOWAR HAVE PIANO SOLOS

If you think so.

Surely not, bro, surely not...