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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

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And it's completely irrelevant what's going on in the world of opera, because we're talking about solos in the world of rock music. And here they are often a clearly defined part of a song.


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The history of music is never irrelevant, unless you have no ear for it, which is the case for many of the rockers here and in this thread. Comparing a simplistic score sheet for a rock band with 4 or 5 rows, to a Symphony with 35 rows or more of music, is ridiculous, and considering something a "solo" in a rock song, only says that what Mozart and many others did was "hide" their solos so no one considered them "solos" but a piece of the music.

A song, is also a part of music history ... if you disdain the history of music, at least say so at the start ... it's almost like saying that rock music invented the solo ... no!!! the commerciality of the rock music in the past 50 years is what has made the "solo" more important, but that doesn't mean that music history will change because of it.

Your comment about opera is an indictment about how some folks here disdain classical music, because it has no "action" or a "solo" that they have lived with all their lives! I'm not stupid enough to think that times can not change, but I am not sure, honestly, that a comment like that is not well versed and knowledgeable about music in general. AND that's not to say that 500 years of history should mandate what rock music does at all ... but I think the attitude is more fan oriented than it is "music" oriented.
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Keith Emerson - closing solo for In the Beginning.
Peter Bardens - solo in Lunar Sea.
John Tout - opening solo for Running Hard.
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Adam Holzman - Home Invasion/ Regret #9 (Steven Wilson)
Kerry Minnear - Working All Day (Gentle Giant)
Jerry Corbetta - Green-Eyed Lady (Sugarloaf)

To name three outside the usual suspects.
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Martin Orford - Sleepless Incidental
Kevin Moore - Metropolis Part 1
Tony Banks - Cinema Show
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Lot of Tony Banks : most liked are Cinema Show,Apocalypse in 9/8,In The cage, Riding the scree, Watcher of the skies (mellotron intro), Hammond In Stagnation, The Knife's Hammond riff ...
Martin Orford : Further away
Patrick Moraz : Relayer
Rick Wakemen : Close to the edge , Yessongs 'solo, Awaken and a lot more
Lol Creme : Piano solo (10 cc one night in Paris)
Robin Lumley : Nuclear burn 'synth solo
Keith Emerson : Tarkus's intro, Jerusalem (church organ), and a lot more

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Wakeman's Hammond solo, "Roundabout" 

Emerson's work on the entire first side of "Tarkus" 

Moraz's synth solo on "Relayer" 
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Usually, the focus is on the finished work and not necessarily the process.

Let's face it, a lot of the prog guys we love may not be able to cook up something on the spot à la George Duke. That's why he's the Duke!
I just realized that, since I don't listen to a lot of live releases, I don't really have much knowledge whether players are really able to capture the same magic live as in the studio (apart from bands where this is a core aspect, like in jazz fusion).
Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Are we talkin' improvised solo? Or written solo? Because that delineation needs to be made. How can I compare the aforementioned George Duke solo from Don't You Ever... (one that sprang to mind for me as well, my cheesy friend), with The Raven solo from Slippermen (another goodie)? One was brilliantly composed on the spot, and one was crafted and honed over a period of time until the player was satisfied with how it sounded.
With studio solos you can't really tell how many tries they've had, or if they iterated on something to arrive at some point (unless the artist has unveiled that or there are other recordings from the studio sessions available). So yeah, there is a bit of difference there I suppose. Then again, for the listener the end result is mostly the same.
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Now you know my point about a "solo" ... it has to be clearly a part of the music, not separated.
That doesn't mean that oftentimes you can denote exactly when in a song the solo starts and when it ends, and it also doesn't mean that you can't have particular solos that you like. Contrary to what you're claiming, you can often take the solo out of the song and still greatly enjoy it. There's entire Zappa albums built around that concept.

And it's completely irrelevant what's going on in the world of opera, because we're talking about solos in the world of rock music. And here they are often a clearly defined part of a song.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Are we talkin' improvised solo? Or written solo? Because that delineation needs to be made. How can I compare the aforementioned George Duke solo from Don't You Ever... (one that sprang to mind for me as well, my cheesy friend), with The Raven solo from Slippermen (another goodie)? One was brilliantly composed on the spot, and one was crafted and honed over a period of time until the player was satisfied with how it sounded.

Usually, the focus is on the finished work and not necessarily the process.

Let's face it, a lot of the prog guys we love may not be able to cook up something on the spot à la George Duke. That's why he's the Duke!
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anything by Tony Banks but Cinema show is my fav by anyone
Rick on Fragile Ctte Tales or GFTO 

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Just a few that pop up in my mind:

Argent - Hold Your Head Up
Genesis - Apocalypse in 9/8, The Cinema Show, Firth of Fifth
IQ - My Baby Treats Me Right 'Cos I'm a Hard Lovin' Man All Night Long
Kansas - Piano solo introducing Lonely Wind (Two for the Show)
UK - Carrying No Cross
Rick Wakeman - Excerpts from The Six Wives of Henry VIII (Yessongs)


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Rick Wakeman - Close to the Edge and Awaken
Tony Banks _ The Cinema Show,
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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You constantly finding reasons to complain about anything has become tedious. So much negativity... Ouch


Hi,

When will you start making comments that are not personal? Embarrassed

I love music and have for all my life. My comments are not "negative" as much as they are COMPARATIVE which is something that you do not seem to understand.

I don't dislike anything in music and you will rarely find a bad comment on an album or band, other than a small joke. A "solo", by its definition, is a PERSONAL/INDIVIDUAL moment within a song, and while I am not saying that it does not fit here and there, it has its places, and many folks have done it right, and made it work, however, I think ... possibly ... that we're enamored with the solo, and who gives a damn about the rest of the song, or the music?

Another example, is Miles Davis ... it's really difficult to not consider what he did a "solo", almost non-stop ... and I have no issue with it, because it opened up a sort of musicianship to many folks that was not quite visible, and it is a treat to watch, and then, later, to appreciate.

Another guitarist that does what could be considered "solos" in the music is Jimmy Page ... but rarely are these not a very clear continuation and a strong part of the song itself ... I like it this way ... instead of apart from the whole thing.

I prefer the complete piece of music.

Another example. Folks talk about opera, mostly because of the "arias", but none of these were ever mentioned as not being a legitimate part of the complete piece, and one of the most emotional moments of the pieces. That was never designed as a "solo" per se, which is used by many classical musicians as highlights of their abilities ... the sad thing being that no one spends time listening to the rest of it ... well, I have to tell you that Wagner taxes my listening hard ... but I can handle the Italians.

Now you know my point about a "solo" ... it has to be clearly a part of the music, not separated.

Nobody separates anything, I was right, i don't think you understand what this thread is about. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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You constantly finding reasons to complain about anything has become tedious. So much negativity... Ouch


Hi,

When will you start making comments that are not personal? Embarrassed

I love music and have for all my life. My comments are not "negative" as much as they are COMPARATIVE which is something that you do not seem to understand.

I don't dislike anything in music and you will rarely find a bad comment on an album or band, other than a small joke. A "solo", by its definition, is a PERSONAL/INDIVIDUAL moment within a song, and while I am not saying that it does not fit here and there, it has its places, and many folks have done it right, and made it work, however, I think ... possibly ... that we're enamored with the solo, and who gives a damn about the rest of the song, or the music?

Another example, is Miles Davis ... it's really difficult to not consider what he did a "solo", almost non-stop ... and I have no issue with it, because it opened up a sort of musicianship to many folks that was not quite visible, and it is a treat to watch, and then, later, to appreciate.

Another guitarist that does what could be considered "solos" in the music is Jimmy Page ... but rarely are these not a very clear continuation and a strong part of the song itself ... I like it this way ... instead of apart from the whole thing.

I prefer the complete piece of music.

Another example. Folks talk about opera, mostly because of the "arias", but none of these were ever mentioned as not being a legitimate part of the complete piece, and one of the most emotional moments of the pieces. That was never designed as a "solo" per se, which is used by many classical musicians as highlights of their abilities ... the sad thing being that no one spends time listening to the rest of it ... well, I have to tell you that Wagner taxes my listening hard ... but I can handle the Italians.

Now you know my point about a "solo" ... it has to be clearly a part of the music, not separated.
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Rod Argent on Hold Your Head Up for sure but then what about Deep Purple - Child In Time, the whole thing is an epic keyboard solo. Jon Lord had no peers on the organ (Emerson included).
Not previously mentioned but Dave Greenfield's Moog solo on Nice N Sleazy is pretty damn amazing.
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Are we talkin' improvised solo? Or written solo? Because that delineation needs to be made. How can I compare the aforementioned George Duke solo from Don't You Ever... (one that sprang to mind for me as well, my cheesy friend), with The Raven solo from Slippermen (another goodie)? One was brilliantly composed on the spot, and one was crafted and honed over a period of time until the player was satisfied with how it sounded.
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Keyboard solos... as much as I love keyboards in prog, and Rick Wakeman is actually one of my top 5 artists overall, I haven't thought about which would be my favourite solos... so many really wonderful keyboard parts, really. Perhaps the Arthur one would actually be my favourite. And, could Toccata Fugue count too? Also, I'm not sure it would really be among my favourites, but there is a rather overlooked, and so underated, little piece of solo from Pink Floyd. On Echoes, just after the screeching guitars ambient section, when the melody is coming back Wright does a little piece of soloing, perhaps the most beautiful keyboard solo from Pink Floyd, and which sadly he never did again when they played the song live. There should be many other worthy keyboard solos from Wakeman himself, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield (perhaps something in Ommadawn should be another of my choices), Genesis, ELP.
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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

-The keyboards solo/guitar solo on Al Di Meola's Flight Over Rio. It's more of a dueling solo, but I love the sound on it, and it sounds very airy, yet exotic, like the song title would suggest. There's two keys players credited on the album, but I'm guessing it's Jan Hammer?

Yes, Jan Hammer features on "Flight to Rio" (first track) and "Elegant Gypsy Suite" (last track). Barry Miles plays on the rest of the album.

Jan Hammer plays the MiniMoog, and the ARP Odyssey "washes" that open the track (along with bassist Anthony Jackson) are by percussionist Mingo Lewis. The opening is phenomenal, Al turns in some of his most fiery playing, and Jan's MiniMoog solos are second to none.

"Flight to Rio" is assuredly one of Al's best jams!

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Rick Wakeman—Awaken
Tony Banks—Cinema Show
Jon Lord—Lazy
Also:
Kent Hensley—Gypsy
John Evan–Thick as a Brick
Keith Emerson—Pictures at an Exhibition
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Hopefully you won't think this is against the "solo", but in general, for me, a musical piece is always "one" and a solo is not necessary, or a part of the whole thing.

As an example, let's take TARKUS, and suggesting that Keith is soloing is a bit on the nuts side of things, as the piece is not a song, but a keyboard concerto with the synthesizer being used as an instrument itself, rather than a sit-in for another orchestra piece. At that time, the synth still had a life of its own, and was not exactly used as a replacement for an orchestra as is the case today with most rock bands.

Another example, is listening to YES in TFTO and even CTTE. It's a serious shame to consider that Chris is "soloing" because he seems to do so many touches that appear almost independent from the whole thing, or even comment on Steve as solo'ing for the whole thing ... it's a complete "Symphony" by its definition and the elements (the instruments) are all a part of the whole, and complete thing.

I, personally, don't like the idea of a "solo" since it tends to imply that the guitarist (or otherwise) is on his/her own, and for me, the unity of the piece falls apart ... it's all about this, and then a solo that has nothing to do with that at all ... a bit weird for me, and this is very loud and clear in a large majority of rock musicians.

Now, if we take "thrashing" and some "metal", this line is blurred even more since the whole thing comes off as a non-stop solo, and listening to DREAM THEATER, it sure seems that way, with a few guys supporting the guitar which seemingly creates the imagined idea and thoughts of what the piece is about via a couple of lyrics. This is bad in many ways. If you have done live theater, you know that no 2 nights are the same and tomorrow the audience won't laugh about this line or other moment. So, expecting the audience to fall for the same thing night after night is something that bands work on ... by making sure their "fans" are up front first, and love everything they do.

I am not sure that the word is right ... for example, I don't consider that John McLoughlin is soloing his way through a piece of music! And this is the hard part of deciding what a solo is, and how it should be used ... if it is "apart" from the actual piece of music ... that's another story, but for us to sit here and consider a "solo" as a part of a rock song ... means that we hate music history and think 500 years of definitions and studies are all stupid because a rock band does this ... and us, the fans, think it's better than what history has shown us ... in the end, the "solo" has nothing to do with the piece itself that it is on.

This post is like chinese to me.

Anyway, as for my answer, here are the first three that came to mind...not sure if I actually have a real top 3, but, again, these came to mind:

-George Duke's solo in Zappa's Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? There's a reason why he was the only band member Zappa ever had who was allowed to solo (nearly) as much as Frank. The album version of Inca Roads is another great one, though that one is enhanced by some overdubs.
-The keyboards solo/guitar solo on Al Di Meola's Flight Over Rio. It's more of a dueling solo, but I love the sound on it, and it sounds very airy, yet exotic, like the song title would suggest. There's two keys players credited on the album, but I'm guessing it's Jan Hammer?
-The keyboard solo on Jean-Luc Ponty's Bowing-Bowing. I had to look up the liner notes, but apparentely Patrice Rushen played keys on this. I had never heard of her, but she's great on this album.

Bonus mention: the keyboard/synth solo on Zappa's Läther/I Promise Not To Come In Your Mouth. I don't know if this one's Eddie or Ruthie playing. Eddie Jobson is credited on keyboards, Ruth Underwood on synthesizer, and it sounds more like a synthesizer than a keyboard to me.

And yes, the solos on Tarkus are great too.
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First ones that come to mind:

Tony Banks: "In the Cage", "Riding the Scree", and the intro to "Firth of Fifth".
Rick Wakeman: organ solos on "Close to the Edge" and "Parallels", piano solos on "Turn of the Century" and "Awaken".
Eddie Jobson: "Carrying No Cross".
Keith Emerson: "Trilogy".
Geoff Downes: the Fairlight solo at the end of "Cutting it Fine".

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