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Poll Question: After Covid 19 will we be living in a changed world?
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Even before this event is declared officially over I believe that wholesale 'automation' will go into overdrive.

That’s a really interesting observation, and one I regretfully agree with.

If there is a worldwide recession, then probably not much will change immediately. If it is a depression, then lots, including the above. Depressions always change society.

I suspect that whatever transpires, western counties will seek less reliance on Chinese manufacturing. Trump and elements of the Republicans are predisposed to this. The UK government, on the other hand, is earnestly enthusiastic for globalism. Even here, though, the inevitable public hearing on how ill prepared we were will have to lead to changes and more being done here.

There will be a huge amount of poverty, social unrest, and premature deaths if there is a deep economic dive.

Agree my friend! I am very afraid of a recession, currently signs show otherwise but wonder if all people not working will be able to go back. Companies always use these events to reduce and cut what they deem is redundant. The service industry is my fear like restaurant segment and the like.....
I think everyone needs to understand countries were ill prepared because nobody had a clue how bad it could get so quickly. Medical workers are trained to change PPE every time they visit a new patient room to be clean, I don't have numbers but the hospitals were overcome with people what by maybe 60-70% more than normal? I doubt any country is prepared for that kind of use of supplies.
I am sure all of us will bulk up by 50% as compared to what stocking levels were before Covid19 on medical supplies. And yes less reliance on China mfg is a factor.......I was disappointed to hear that most if not all countries that might have extra supplies are on export lockdown to send to someone else.

Like most I'm hoping for the best post Covid19, still hearing though that any approved vaccine is 10-12 months away. Cry
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All of these major companies have been in the starting blocks ever since the second day of the lockdown, and they will do everything to go back to normal.

Though I do suspect that some changes will happen (return of experience, for ex), but it will be relatively minor
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Even before this event is declared officially over I believe that wholesale 'automation' will go into overdrive.

That’s a really interesting observation, and one I regretfully agree with.

If there is a worldwide recession, then probably not much will change immediately. If it is a depression, then lots, including the above. Depressions always change society.

I suspect that whatever transpires, western counties will seek less reliance on Chinese manufacturing. Trump and elements of the Republicans are predisposed to this. The UK government, on the other hand, is earnestly enthusiastic for globalism. Even here, though, the inevitable public hearing on how ill prepared we were will have to lead to changes and more being done here.

There will be a huge amount of poverty, social unrest, and premature deaths if there is a deep economic dive.
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Even before this event is declared officially over I believe that wholesale 'automation' will go into overdrive.
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Much of the human race will be paranoid, O.C.D. germophobes.....
Some will cough and get bashed. Someone will spit and get arrested.
Dunno, people will just slip back into old ways. Just a minor blip in the whole scheme of things. Hope I Live to see it through.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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I'm waiting for Roger's next album declaring something or other about this whole thing! I probably won't buy it so I won't feel contaminated with angry this or that. Kinda getting old for that stuff! Wink
As I said before Roger is a doosh.....an entertainer only, I have ZERO desire to hear about what an entertainer thinks about the economy or their political views.

As far as what I think after Covid-19......Major changes with regard to crowd events, flying, public transportation. By that I mean people will be wearing masks all the time and if you sneeze or cough God help you as you will probably be banished and at minimum be looked at like "why are you not home!!"

Major changes to peoples attitudes towards everyone else. Hopefully the US will bring some mfg back in country of medical supplies, so we are not held captive by China and others. Big learning lesson there.
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Changes?
I wonder how soon buffets, salad bars, olive bars and self-serve bulk food bins will be coming back, if at all,

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

In the greater scheme of things, climate and environmental change should be much bigger than Covid-19. Covid-19 will lead to relatively minor changes, I'd think. Some companies will go bust, some others will come up, there will be economic trouble and maybe the odd unexpected solution. Not sure whether none of these will be "significant", so I'm between the second and third, but as I said, in comparison it'll be rather minor. 
 

I"m here as well. Will there be changes? Sure...but the most immediate and long lasting that I can see at least as of now are things like Business A isn't there anymore or Business Chain C has 100 fewer stores nationwide. This will have economic impacts of course, but I don't see the groundswell to support massive sweeping societal changes (like after the great depression). 

Once there is a vaccine, I don't see people not throwing large parties, not going to bars, not shaking hands or engaging in other socially accpetable (or not) physical touching of other humans, etc etc. Hell, people are still doing some of that now!
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Some good points so far.  I agree that it depends on the definition of "significant"
 
I would define "significant" as a change which has a long term and noticeable impact on the lives of ordinary citizens.
 
For example, home working has become the norm for huge numbers of people during this crises.  If this becomes normalised then it will represent a "significant" change in the lives of ordinary citizens.
 
On the other hand, the government deciding to ensure that all hospital PPE is manufactured in the UK in future, rather than sourced from abroad, is a change that most ordinary citizens won't notice in their daily lives, so I would call this a "minor" change.
 
So, "significant" is a noticeable and long term change in the lives of ordinary citizens.
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Hi,

I'm waiting for Roger's next album declaring something or other about this whole thing! I probably won't buy it so I won't feel contaminated with angry this or that. Kinda getting old for that stuff! Wink
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It will be world changing multifacetedly, I presume.

Edited by Shadowyzard - April 13 2020 at 11:18
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I am between the second and third choices as well. It does depend on how you define significant. Individually, there are people whose lives will be significantly changed. And in the short-term (for a year), how certain businesses operate will be significantly changed. Though there will be some lasting policy changes. I leaned to second choice.
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In the greater scheme of things, climate and environmental change should be much bigger than Covid-19. Covid-19 will lead to relatively minor changes, I'd think. Some companies will go bust, some others will come up, there will be economic trouble and maybe the odd unexpected solution. Not sure whether none of these will be "significant", so I'm between the second and third, but as I said, in comparison it'll be rather minor. 
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There has been a lot of discussion in the media about what the post Covid 19 world will look like, and I am interested to know what PA contributors think will happen.
 
If you think that the legacy of Covid 19 will be a radically changed world, then what do you think will change, and why do you think it will change?
 
Alternatively, if you think that, when this is all over, we will all just slip back into "business as usual" then why do you think this, and what do you think will be the consequences of this (if any)?
 
So, put your futurist hat on and tell me what the world will look like after Covid 19.....
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