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Alitare

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 12:16

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 12:03

Nothing changes the fact that popularity has a stronger correlation to exposure than any measure of quality.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 12:00

By definition, I value my opinion over everyone else's. Otherwise I'd change my mind. Sometimes I do change my mind, thereby formulating a revised opinion, but one which I can still call my own.

-- Socrates

(edit: not really)

Edited by HolyMoly - October 03 2012 at 12:00

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:56

rogerthat wrote:

ELP had many great tracks but no one masterpiece album.

Brain Salad Surgery.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:51

dtguitarfan wrote:

pianoman wrote:

"correct" opinion and "incorrect" opinion is defeating the purpose of the word. There are correct and incorrect facts, but opinions are subjective. There are however ignorant or stubborn opinions.

That's your opinion...

Lol, nice.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:48

I've been forgotten, yeah - forgotten. Oh, how I wonder how is it I failed...

Now I'm a soldier, a lonely soldier - away from home through no wish of my own.

Mmm, that's why I'm lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely. I wish that I could go back home.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:44

That's your opinion...

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rogerthat

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:35

That is correct. Wink

I think informed vis-a-vis uninformed or considered vis-a-vis biased is a better dichotomy.

pianoman

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:34

"correct" opinion and "incorrect" opinion is defeating the purpose of the word. There are correct and incorrect facts, but opinions are subjective. There are however ignorant or stubborn opinions.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:07

thellama73 wrote:

dtguitarfan wrote:

Alitare wrote:

Besides, anybody who'd rate any Dream Theater album higher than 4* should be forbidden the Prog Reviewer status (and taken out back old Yeller-like).

There it is. Exactly the kind of "some opinions matter more than others" pretentiousness that I hate around here.

Well, some opinions do matter more than others. Correct opinions matter more than incorrect ones.

Yup, and the existing collabs are the ones who decide which opinions about music are correct and therefore should matter more.

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moshkito

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 11:02

Not surprised ... but that list will change all the time since it was designed from the fan board ... and a lot of these metal and what not other name, probably heard ELP once and thought ... that it wasn't good.

My close friend that usually goes with me, or I with him, to various progressive shows, likes Whitesnake, Dream Theater, Rush and such ... but he cringes at King Crimson (pretentious!) and ELP (call that music?) ... and there are many times when I do not think he is incorrect.

In th elast 15 years I have plastered him with everything, including GG, which surprised him to no end, to see how many bands he has heard have taken from them and others. But, while he can appreciate music, it is not one of his favorites, for example.

He would not have voted for many of those 70's bands, either! And he still has not clicked to CAN or Amon Duul 2. But he wondered what that long song by the Red Hot Chili Peppers was all about ... so I blasted him with Mother Sky! He did say the original was far better!

Edited by moshkito - October 03 2012 at 11:11

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 10:59

dtguitarfan wrote:

Alitare wrote:

Besides, anybody who'd rate any Dream Theater album higher than 4* should be forbidden the Prog Reviewer status (and taken out back old Yeller-like).

There it is. Exactly the kind of "some opinions matter more than others" pretentiousness that I hate around here.

Well, some opinions do matter more than others. Correct opinions matter more than incorrect ones.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 10:32

altaeria wrote:

Am I reading this correctly?

According to the ProgArchives "TOP PROG ALBUMS" (of all-time) list,
ANGLAGARD has TWO (!!) albums ranked in the top 13 ...

yet ELP barely squeezed one album in at # 75 ??

Is this like one of those goofy Rolling Stone Magazine lists?

Oh-- and has anybody told BIG BIG TRAIN that they
apparently recorded the #20 greatest Prog album of all-time ???

I'm sure the band and their 167 fans worldwide will be totally psyched !!!

Wink

ELP had many great tracks but no one masterpiece album. Sadly, neither Rolling Stone nor Progarchives can change that. Ask Keith to do something about it, will you?

Alitare

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 10:30

Oh, can't you stop being so stuffy? I'm obviously being facetious.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 10:25

Alitare wrote:

Besides, anybody who'd rate any Dream Theater album higher than 4* should be forbidden the Prog Reviewer status (and taken out back old Yeller-like).

There it is. Exactly the kind of "some opinions matter more than others" pretentiousness that I hate around here.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 10:12

You are right, OP. ELP in #75? Their only album in the top list should be at least in #67.

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 09:35

thellama73 wrote:

pianoman wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

pianoman wrote:

This thread spiraled out into ridiculousness.

To be fair, it kind of started out that way too.

truth. Completely random, but did anyone see that Godspeed You! Black Emperor has a new album out?

I did, but I don't really like them so I won't be buying it.

Understandable. I totally get it when people hate Godspeed. But I'm definitely getting it when it comes out

On another note, I've never heard Big Big Train, and due to this thread, I'm gonna check them out. Who do they sound similar to?

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 09:30

pianoman wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

pianoman wrote:

This thread spiraled out into ridiculousness.

To be fair, it kind of started out that way too.

truth. Completely random, but did anyone see that Godspeed You! Black Emperor has a new album out?

I did, but I don't really like them so I won't be buying it.

pianoman

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 09:29

thellama73 wrote:

pianoman wrote:

This thread spiraled out into ridiculousness.

To be fair, it kind of started out that way too.

truth. Completely random, but did anyone see that Godspeed You! Black Emperor has a new album out?

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Posted: October 03 2012 at 09:17

akamaisondufromage wrote:

Maybe ELP are not as good as you think they are?

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