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chessman
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 01 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 974
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:06 |
I can appreciate the talent of Emerson and Palmer, as musicians, but don't think the music is up to scratch, for a three-piece they don't seem to be particularly together either. Sloppy may be a word I could use. Anderson (Jon) Anderson (Ian) Peter Gabriel, Steve Hogarth, Peter Nicholls, Roine Stolt, John Wetton, Dave Gilmour - all these singers have something memorable about their voices. They may not all be technically good singers, but their voices suit the bands they are in, and the songs they sing. And they are distinctive. Well, to me they are. I can recognise them anywhere! Greg Lake sounds quite wimpish to me, and doesn't stand out at all. He could be one of a number of so-so singers. Of course, I know fans of the band love his voice, and, for them, maybe he is very distinctive. Not to me though. His voice to me is, well, weak, therefore inferior. Each to his or her own though. I think the band could have accomplished so much more if they had added at least one more musician. Maybe a singer/guitarist.
ELP = showmanship. But, showmanship does not necessarily = good music.
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Losendos
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Joined: June 03 2005
Location: Australia
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Points: 571
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:03 |
VDGG ( they have their moments but are way too few) and Styx
I find it difficult to understand why some prog fans can't handle Pink Floyd Genesis ELP or Yes> They are genre defining bands and in my circle they were widely loved.bb
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How wonderful to be so profound
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horza
Prog Reviewer
Joined: August 31 2005
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 2530
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:00 |
I'm noticing a pattern here!! King Crimson,VDGG and ELP have all left me cold - hmmm i wonder . . . . .
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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RaphaelT
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Joined: August 17 2005
Location: Poland
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Points: 1453
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:56 |
Rush - could be very boring in larger doses.
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yet you still have time!
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Tony Fisher
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 30 2005
Location: England
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Points: 967
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:55 |
ELP, KC, VDGG. None do much for me!
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Man Overboard
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Joined: November 07 2004
Location: Austin, TX
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Points: 3830
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:48 |
Progger wrote:
Another one for King Crimson here. A poor man's 'Yes' IMO. Also add Gentle Giant, VGG & Rush's 80's output to my list! |
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That's a fairly ignorant opinion.
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Tichy
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Joined: May 06 2005
Location: Turkey
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Points: 32
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:42 |
GENTLE GIANT (There are some good songs, but generally it's not for me)
STYX
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richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 29684
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:34 |
chessman wrote:
E.L.P
Talented keyboard player who lacks melody, good, but no more than that, drummer, and average bass/guitarist with, for me, an inferior and irritating voice!
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''talented'' and ''good'' are not adjectives you apply to a band that you do not like at all! perhaps you are indifferent towards them?
Greg Lake as a vocalist is inferior to who exactly? Give some examples please! He sings well to me so I don't understand the point.
Let the ELP bashing commence...erm... I mean continue!
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Animosity
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Joined: September 15 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:30 |
Ayreon. 
It might be the whole prog-rock-opera-thing with them, but as much as I want to like them, I can't.
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Biggles
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Joined: June 18 2005
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Points: 705
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:30 |
^Especially given that King Crimson came before Yes (at least the prog Yes) and played COMPLETELY different music.
I'm gonna have to go with Rush. Sure, they have a few pretty good songs, but I don't get why they have so much exorbitant praise thrown at them. They really don't seem to be THAT good to me.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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GatesOfDelirium
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Joined: August 26 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 109
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:30 |
Ayreon, Dream Theater, and most neo-prog.
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:23 |
Progger wrote:
Another one for King Crimson here. A poor man's 'Yes' IMO. Also add Gentle Giant, VGG & Rush's 80's output to my list! |
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i can understand if you don't like KC, but calling them "a poor man's Yes" makes absolutely no sense at all. 
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:22 |
yeah, i knew there was only one prog band i could absolutely not stand, but i forgot. thanks, chessman for jogging my memory.
ELP
don't stop by here much do you, chessman?
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Ed_The_Dead
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Joined: April 29 2005
Location: Poland
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Points: 4928
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:22 |
Errrr... Might I say Rush?
Totally don't understand them....
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Progger
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:21 |
Another one for King Crimson here. A poor man's 'Yes' IMO. Also add Gentle Giant, VGG & Rush's 80's output to my list! |
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chessman
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 01 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 974
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:18 |
E.L.P
Talented keyboard player who lacks melody, good, but no more than that, drummer, and average bass/guitarist with, for me, an inferior and irritating voice!
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Snow Dog
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Joined: March 23 2005
Location: Caerdydd
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:10 |
fandango wrote:
Ayreon, Ayreon and ooh er, Ayreon... |
...and don't forget Echolyn and Salem Hill!
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richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 29684
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:10 |
Wham
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:09 |
Gentle Giant
@ Trouserpants
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:07 |
fiori wrote:
Ange but maybe I didn't start with the right album...What do you think of "Au Dela du Délire"? |
It's a reasonable album but hardly mindlowing. Ange are hardly the most
essential of groups. Here's a few I feel I ought to love but just can't:
- Genesis
- Pink Floyd
- Art Bears
A bit of a shame mayhaps, but life goes on, eh?
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