I just do NOT like them!!
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Topic: I just do NOT like them!!
Posted By: horza
Subject: I just do NOT like them!!
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 16:52
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Which band have you tried to get into because they seem to be the type of band you would expect to enjoy,and try as you might,you just can't get into them or see the point?? For me (I must confess) it is KING CRIMSON -I'm sorry but i just don't get it with them. ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 16:58
Ayreon, Ayreon and ooh er, Ayreon... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 16:59
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Van De Graaf ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Mahonster
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:01
| Genesis. |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:02
Strange, i quite like Ayreon  and I'm unsure re Van der G ,what tracks should i be trying?------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: fiori
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:04
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Ange but maybe I didn't start with the right album...What do you think of "Au Dela du Délire"? ------------- "-Mr Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there... In one word, how'd you describe it? -Progressive... yeah... that's it" |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:07
It's a reasonable album but hardly mindlowing. Ange are hardly the most essential of groups. Here's a few I feel I ought to love but just can't:
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fiori wrote:Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:09
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Gentle Giant
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:10
| Wham |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:10
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...and don't forget Echolyn and Salem Hill! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:18
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E.L.P Talented keyboard player who lacks melody, good, but no more than that, drummer, and average bass/guitarist with, for me, an inferior and irritating voice! |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:21
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:22
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Errrr... Might I say Rush? Totally don't understand them.... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:22
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yeah, i knew there was only one prog band i could absolutely not stand, but i forgot. thanks, chessman for jogging my memory. ELP don't stop by here much do you, chessman? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:23
i can understand if you don't like KC, but calling them "a poor man's Yes" makes absolutely no sense at all. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: GatesOfDelirium
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:30
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Ayreon, Dream Theater, and most neo-prog.
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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:30
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^Especially given that King Crimson came before Yes (at least the prog Yes) and played COMPLETELY different music. I'm gonna have to go with Rush. Sure, they have a few pretty good songs, but I don't get why they have so much exorbitant praise thrown at them. They really don't seem to be THAT good to me. ------------- The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. http://www.last.fm/user/sbonfiglioli/?chartstyle=red"> 
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Posted By: Animosity
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:30
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Ayreon. It might be the whole prog-rock-opera-thing with them, but as much as I want to like them, I can't. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:34
''talented'' and ''good'' are not adjectives you apply to a band that you do not like at all! Greg Lake as a vocalist is inferior to who exactly? Give some examples please! He sings well to me so I don't understand the point. Let the ELP bashing commence...erm... I mean continue! |
Posted By: Tichy
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:42
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GENTLE GIANT (There are some good songs, but generally it's not for me) STYX |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:48
That's a fairly ignorant opinion. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:55
| ELP, KC, VDGG. None do much for me! |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:56
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Rush - could be very boring in larger doses. ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:00
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I'm noticing a pattern here!! King Crimson,VDGG and ELP have all left me cold - hmmm i wonder . . . . . ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:03
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VDGG ( they have their moments but are way too few) and Styx I find it difficult to understand why some prog fans can't handle Pink Floyd Genesis ELP or Yes> They are genre defining bands and in my circle they were widely loved.bb ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:06
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I can appreciate the talent of Emerson and Palmer, as musicians, but don't think the music is up to scratch, for a three-piece they don't seem to be particularly together either. Sloppy may be a word I could use. Anderson (Jon) Anderson (Ian) Peter Gabriel, Steve Hogarth, Peter Nicholls, Roine Stolt, John Wetton, Dave Gilmour - all these singers have something memorable about their voices. They may not all be technically good singers, but their voices suit the bands they are in, and the songs they sing. And they are distinctive. Well, to me they are. I can recognise them anywhere! Greg Lake sounds quite wimpish to me, and doesn't stand out at all. He could be one of a number of so-so singers. Of course, I know fans of the band love his voice, and, for them, maybe he is very distinctive. Not to me though. His voice to me is, well, weak, therefore inferior. Each to his or her own though. I think the band could have accomplished so much more if they had added at least one more musician. Maybe a singer/guitarist. ELP = showmanship. But, showmanship does not necessarily = good music. |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:07
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Rush (except for maybe a dozen songs), Ayreon, Flower Kings (and I really wanted to like them!), Ozric Tentacles (though I understand why many people like them), Happy the Man. I'll think of others, I'm sure. Peace. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:11
It's not that I "can't handle" Genesis or Floyd, its simply that I don't like their sounds much. They're no more "genre defining" than King Crimson or Van Der Graaf Generator (the latter's influence is so often downplayed) and I couldn't give a monkey's how they were received in "your circle". Musical taste is a subjective matter and everyone will come across bands that they may feel they OUGHT to like, but for one reason or another lack the charm others find in them. |
Posted By: sonic wizard
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:11
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Styx and Kansas. ------------- Arguing on the internet is a lot like the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:12
I need a smiley that is rolling up its sleeves ready for a fight! I'm not one to keep harping on(
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:13
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I have gotten into everything, really. The only time I give up a band is when they're too poppish for me, but never because they're too complex. I love KC, Rush, GG, and most of those other people named ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:18
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-Genisis -ELP -Yes -King Crimson -Tool |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:24
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ELP and Dream Theater. Dream Theater are all style over substance and ELP are a one trick pony.The keyboard player plays like he is wearing boxing gloves( (c) TR1972) and the vocalist sounds like he's just been punched with them and then collapsed onto the drum kit......
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:28
Plagarising Cerif1ed now are we! I wish I disliked one of your bands.........it's so not fair! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:37
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VDGG and Magma.Just can't get into them. -------------  |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:41
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Dream Theater: What's all the fuss about?!?? Like a spoiled teenager
driving a fast car that Daddy bought them. All style, and no
substance... Also Kansas, Zappa and up until recently Gentle Giant. I have given up on Kansas and Zappa, but I have since purchased GG's "The Power and The Glory" and "Freehand" and will be locking myself in a room with them until I 'get' them...  ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:42
Ayreon, The Mars Volta, Frank Zappa, Styx, and Opeth to name a few.  ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:44
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Queensryche, Fates Warning, Tool, Marillion, Pendragon (and pretty much all neo prog for that matter), Flower Kings (sorry ManOverboard |
Posted By: MoodsWings
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:47
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Marillion. Perhaps I'll try them again another time. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:50
Thats true...show some f**kin-respect!!! hehehe ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:54
| 80's rush. 70's is awesome, but I just don't like 80's. |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:56
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Genesis, I have a bunch of their albums and they're good but nothing more than good... ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:00
You're kidding. |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:18
| I really could never get into Yes. I understand why a lot of people like them, but having "America" as a favorite song, after hearing CTTE, TFTO and Fragile kinda says it all... |
Posted By: Proglover
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:23
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:32
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80s Rush |
Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:41
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Marillion
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:43
Funny you say that, Marillion is the only (as of right now) neo-prog I like. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:46
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Nightwish ......to be continued ------------- 
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Posted By: Gluonio
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:48
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I couldn't really get into MARILLION but my biggest deception of all time is TRIUMVIRAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- ...But my dreams are for dreaming and best left that way-and my zero to your power of ten equals nothing at all... |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:48
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I forgot Marillion, I guess I should like them. I'm still trying! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:51
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Outside of just bad vocals or music with no melody I usually can find something I like about most bands. I can only take Pink Floyd in measured amounts because the sound itself is a bit repetitious but I don't dislike it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:54
Now, good luck with THAT...........
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Posted By: stinkfist
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:07
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i cant stand Pink Floyd or Yes or ELP and i've tried to listen i just cant get into it ------------- how can this mean anything to me? when i really dont feel a thing at all |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:24
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Pink Floyd for me. I think everything else that's been mentioned. Now don't
get me wrong, I do like Pink Floyd, but I think they are hyped up way too much. For example, I think Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Tull, or any of the other "bigger" prog bands are much more advanced than Floyd was. That is only my opinion, keep in mind. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: patomtz
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:24
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the old prog! i just cant get it! like YES, ELP, King crimson, Genesis, etc!! i just cant lol ------------- I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans Dream Theater in Monterrey, Mexico 03.03.06 Unforgettable 
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:24
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"stinkfist"? huh.............
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:25
Did you like how the one person (can't remember his name) from Marillion criticized ELP? He said they never wrote a song in their lives. Bastard. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:29
At least you seem to like TOOL. |
Posted By: Irrgarten
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:31
| Definitely DREAM THEATER I just cannot understand why all the fuss with such a boring band!. Certainly they are excellent musicians, but their compositions are so dull and lack any substance compared to other bands in the same genre like Pain of Salvation or Arena. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:33
it's the name of a Tool song ------------- |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:41
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ELP - I have tried for years but just can't - worse than fingernails on chalkboard. A couple of others that I had a hard time with that I have started to like a little more are Gentle Giant and Mars Volta. |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 20:50
I wasn't going to ask, but thanks for the information. Never listened to Tool but I checked out this song and at least for now they get my vote on this thread.
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Prog Music
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 21:01
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I used to like Jethro Tull a bunch... but recently it's just been.. meh. |
Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 21:17
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I can't get into Dream Theater, Marillion, or Pink Floyd. I'm a little unsure of Opeth too; I like the vocals, but I find the music overall to be a little repetitive and kind of dull. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Violenza/?chartstyle=tree"> 
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Posted By: MarkCsigs
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 21:21
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I either like or respect most everything under the prog label. I haven't gotten all the fuss over Radiohead yet ... but I'm going to give it a rest and try it again later. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress. |
Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 21:30
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Can't get into Genesis... though I expect someday I will. Love Rush though... Sometimes I think these two groups are mutually exclusive.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 21:30
Oh well....your loss. ------------- |
Posted By: Shaman
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 22:14
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Can't get into; Marillion, Faust and Twelfth Night.
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Posted By: ProgPartin
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 22:14
| Most everything thrown out here i can get into. The only Prog group that I can't in Camel. I can't even put my finger on why anymore than the vocals just come across dry and lifeless. This also make the music come across with a hook. Maybe in the future, it will just click. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 22:17
I feel the same way. i seem to like pretty much everything |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 22:59
Oh yeah, and Opeth. I think their music is great, but the vocals.....ugh, sorry Opeth fans- here's one band that won't be gracing my album bookcase. 
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Posted By: Littlewashu5
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 23:12
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Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 23:16
you are on a prog site and you don't even like one of these. I can't believe it. |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 23:22
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I tried some GG, never really struck a chord with me, but it was alright. Same for Marillion and POS. |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 23:37
------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 23:39
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GENESIS, i cant like it..i try... OPETH i hate the vocals, but im getting a little more used to it ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 23:47
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Posted By: Sollak
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 00:19
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Gentle Giant !!
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 00:23
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Posted By: krapulax
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 01:51
| the neo prog |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:01
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Fish era Marillion (boring and so not anything like classic Genesis) All Rick Wakeman solo albums bar Six Wives (boring and cheesey) Triumvirat (just crap) Jeff Wayne War Of The Worlds (cheesey plus any album with narrative I hate anyway) Alan Parsons Project (boring AOR masquerading as prog) |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:19
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ÄNGLAGÅRD I don't hate them, and there's great elements in their music... But there's also too much annoiyng elements in their music, so I don't find myself listening their two studio albums very often, which I have in my shelf. I would still recommend it to those who like symphonic OR NEO-PROGGISH music, like mid-70's GENESIS or something. heh heh... |
Posted By: italprogfan
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:21
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area - although when they're good, they're very, very good.... |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:31
My feelings exactly. I love Genesis and Yes, and ELP does nothing to me. ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:32
So far it's mostly  for King Crimson, Gentle Giant & VGG!!!!!
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:35
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That means nothing. There are a lot people who love them. What is your point? -------------
"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 02:51
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http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1829"> |
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1829 - YES - Relayer (1974)
— Undoubtedly the biggest waste of my Prog thirsty ears. I'm an ardent fan of Fragile and Close to the Edge. This album is nothing like the others. I've tried to tackle listening to this album a dozen times and I can't get myself to enjoy it. Maybe I'm just a 'casual' prog fan and "Relayer" is just out of my league. Any way I stack it I can't help but feel that this record is absolute garbage. "Relayer," more like "Recycle." Posted By: Doesburger
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 03:02
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Not that I know much about it, but the metal or prog-metal or whatever-metal genre(s) is one I love to hate. . Reminds me of a bunch of snot-nosed adolescents trying to look and sound scary. Sorry for those who like that genre, but I cannot take that seriously. As a joke, it's definitely hilarious!! But that they should take themselves seriously is laughable.
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Posted By: dkearns
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 03:13
Think again... |
Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 03:27
You want to know which bands are also mutually exclusive? Genesis and Shakatak ------------- Right down the line |
Posted By: DACE
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 03:51
| ELP, prog metal and neo prog. I really tried hard, very hard, to like them but I just can't. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 04:21
The point is that most people have taste! |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 04:27
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 04:32
now that's a real surprise, Trousie. of Genesis I knew, and Pink Floyd I can understand, given your taste, but the Art Bears???? they should be exactly your cup of tea. I especially don't understand how you can like Henry Cow and dislike the Art Bears; in my opinion they are one and the same (with the same musicans even), and the name change was not really necessary did you try "Winter Lights"? -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 04:48
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Tried and tried again Yes, but still no. I give up on Yes. Dream Theater's music is great, but the voice-aaaarrgghhhh. |
Posted By: Mlaen
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 05:26
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E.L.P.
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Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 05:31
| I'll go with King Crimson also, Also I think lot of Genesis is overated and especially their clones Marrillion! |
Posted By: DACE
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 05:38
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Well, basically Dream Theater, Queensryche, Opeth, Tool and Ayreon and none of them are my cup of tea. |
Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 05:43
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The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin. The Rolling Stones covered 'You Can't Judge a Book by the Cover' and I like Manfred Mann, Hawkwind etc versions of their songs, but I just don't like listening to Jagger et al at all. I find Robert Plant's voice far too mannered and the arrangement/production too cluttered. |