Does Miles Davis belong in Prog?

Progressive music, definitely.

Kati wrote: Padraic wrote: Davesax1965 wrote: As a jazz musician, I have to tell you that Miles Davis is as prog as the Spice Girls.  A lot of the experimental jazz of the late 50's - Davis, Coltrane et al, and even of the 40's - Charlie Parker and fellow beboppers - was basically an influence for "progressive" forms of music. But that doesn't make it prog.  It makes it jazz. It's already been labelled. And Miles went through several different musical styles, as did most jazz musicians. I see a lot of music mislabelled on Prog Archives, and this is definitely one of these occasions.  Prog ? No. Definitely not.  But you would agree that Miles was at the forefront of jazz-rock/fusion, and because that genre is represented here then it is appropriate for Miles to be here.  Now, if you think JR/F itself shouldn't be here, you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but it's a separate matter. Miles Davis both with Bitches Brew or Sketches of Spain if this does not belong here I really don't know what does, I am not a sheep btw, as I do not like a all prog moozik although my taste tends to favorite this genre. hugs,

Padraic wrote: But you would agree that Miles was at the forefront of jazz-rock/fusion, and because that genre is represented here then it is appropriate for Miles to be here.  Now, if you think JR/F itself shouldn't be here, you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but it's a separate matter.

Precisely.

Padraic wrote: Davesax1965 wrote: As a jazz musician, I have to tell you that Miles Davis is as prog as the Spice Girls.  A lot of the experimental jazz of the late 50's - Davis, Coltrane et al, and even of the 40's - Charlie Parker and fellow beboppers - was basically an influence for "progressive" forms of music. But that doesn't make it prog.  It makes it jazz. It's already been labelled. And Miles went through several different musical styles, as did most jazz musicians. I see a lot of music mislabelled on Prog Archives, and this is definitely one of these occasions.  Prog ? No. Definitely not.  But you would agree that Miles was at the forefront of jazz-rock/fusion, and because that genre is represented here then it is appropriate for Miles to be here.  Now, if you think JR/F itself shouldn't be here, you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but it's a separate matter.

terramystic wrote: But Kind of Blue in top prog rock albums? Are you kidding?

That's an unfortunate consequence of the way this site operates, whereby if an artist is added then their complete discography is represented here.  Obviously Kind of Blue is not progressive rock, but it's here, gets rated very highly, and makes it's way to the "top of" list.  Album tagging would help alleviate this, but there's far too many artists and albums now to go down that road.

Davesax1965 wrote: As a jazz musician, I have to tell you that Miles Davis is as prog as the Spice Girls.  A lot of the experimental jazz of the late 50's - Davis, Coltrane et al, and even of the 40's - Charlie Parker and fellow beboppers - was basically an influence for "progressive" forms of music. But that doesn't make it prog.  It makes it jazz. It's already been labelled. And Miles went through several different musical styles, as did most jazz musicians. I see a lot of music mislabelled on Prog Archives, and this is definitely one of these occasions.  Prog ? No. Definitely not.

rdtprog wrote: If this web site is really Progressive Archives, ok for Miles Davis, but if it's Progressive Rock Archives, no.

Yep, this is quite clearly what we need. A split!

I vote that we immediately set up Progressive Archives, Progressive Rock Archives, Prog Archive, Prog Rock Archives, because, of course, we argue endlessly about Prog and Progressive, Proto Progressive Archives, Proto Progressive Rock Archives, Proto Prog Archives, Proto Prog Rock Archives, Progressive Related Archives, Progressive Rock Related Archives, prog Related Archives, Prog Rock Related Archives........

I think I will go back to work now

If this web site is really Progressive Archives, ok for Miles Davis, but if it's Progressive Rock Archives, no.

Kati wrote: Who said Miles Davis does not belong in prog?

terramystic wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: He recorded this 33 minute long Jazzrock-masterpiece in 1967! This sure is progressive. But does it rock? OK. Maybe this kind of music could be seen as rock in the most avant form. But Kind of Blue in top prog rock albums? Are you kidding?