The Prog Mind

Dayvenkirq wrote: ^ Do they have any lyrical profundity?

Edited by dr wu23 - May 17 2013 at 14:35

^ Do they have any lyrical profundity?

It guess it depends on what you feel is important.  Philosophy tries to tackle the human experience, metaphysics, the problems of sin and pain and death, and other deep reflections.  How can rumination on these topics be a waste of time?  If anything, pondering them can at least sharpen your mind or stabilize you as a thinking person.  As someone else stated, if philosophy is a waste of time and mind; then stories, art, and even just listening to other people are all wastes of time.  Philosophy asks "Why are we here?", and I think one of the answers is "For other people".  That said, I definitely can listen to great music without powerful or well-written lyrics (Seventh Wonder's cliche poetry comes to mind).  I also love a good instrumental album, but I find I like it more when the music is highly emotive.  Some of my favorites in this category are Lunatic Soul (the last album), Hostsonaten (the Season Cycle), and Joseph Magazine.  

Oh the battle is done. Peace is a lovely way to get back on track.
Anyway, whose up for some Subterrenea?? What an album that is.

Sounds good.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 17 2013 at 13:53

Dean wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: I don't see how philosophy has to do with any of it. Many of the things you've mentioned are based on ill motivations, not on healthy ways thinking. Philosophy is not "a healthy way of thinking" - though it is often used to justify a way of thinking into making it appear to be healthy.

That's a very pessimistic and unjustified (or maybe even nihilistic) way of thinking I have no much use for. Let's nuke the world.

dr wu23 wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: Maybe we are being monitored by aliens who are waiting for the right time to invade Earth. Oh...now you did it..... Do you want Dean to philosophize ...er make a pronouncement on how there ain't no such things as space aliens.

Oh ffs. Hardy har har. I have never made such a claim. In fact I have said the exact opposite - the existence of "space aliens" is perfectly reasonable and quite probable.

Dayvenkirq wrote: I don't see how philosophy has to do with any of it. Many of the things you've mentioned are based on ill motivations, not on healthy ways thinking.

^ Therefore, if not all of us, then some of us have to do something about ourselves. I bet that there are some people out there who act on philosophical principles for greater good. I don't know when, I don't know where, I just can't prove that there is absolutely no one doing that. Otherwise, we might just as well throw the whole damn thing overboard.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - May 17 2013 at 13:30

Monadology wrote: Either Dean's attitudes toward philosophy rest of some dogmatic set of values by which the consequences of philosophy are judged, or Dean's attitudes toward philosophy rest of some set of values which was derived from philosophical thinking about what is good and what are bad, by which the consequences of philosophy are judged. In the first case, I think it's safe to say that dogmatically held values have done far more harm than philosophy ever has. In the second case, Dean is sawing the branch supporting him. Either way, there's not much use debating with him.

Yeah, I get that argument a lot and it bounces off me like a bouncy thing hitting a hard thing. Lovers of Philosophy as an academic discipline do get a little prickly when someone dismisses their passion as a mere frippery.