How can metal be prog?

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote:   Your signature pic is completely Non Prog

Any you say nothing good will come out of this thread how?

Oh, the ignorance...

Henry Plainview wrote: Let's get this out of the way right now: melodies belong in the NINETEENTH CENTURY, and I highly disapprove of anyone using them, much less prog. Otherwise, an '07 troll with 182 posts, interesting.

Actually that settles the debate quite nicely. If you really want melody, you listen to classical.

Rocktopus wrote: And guys: Lacking knowledge is not the same as being a troll.

Yes but in terms of usefulness of the thread, it is practically the same thing, worse in fact because this guy believes in what he is posting and can't be talked out of his joke which you could with a troll.

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: Walker wrote: PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: 1.  Obtain a copy of Dream Theater - Images & Words 2.  Listen to it. 3.  Report back.   Dream theatre are like Bonjovi meets Gentle Giant. You won't get much enjoyment from that apart from complexity  If you don't find prog in that album, I don't think there's much more that can be discussed.   it's prog with alot of non prog elements. Doesn't really do anything for me   You just admitted they are prog... you answered your own question... enough said     partly prog but not prog enough for me

You could have said that at the begining of the thread man! That's really a matter of taste, oh and BTW, you said it again, THEY'RE PROG just in these words "partly prog". Just enjoy the music man, if you don't enjoy because they're not "Prog enough" for you, then I think you're having a problem(no offense) with your taste.
I'm a newbie on Prog Metal, but I can assure you all this what I have just said. I have Images & Words and Octavarium. I really can't think of something Proggier than Learning to Live, I mean, for a metal(Prog) band I wouldn't expect that type of thing, and it's not just related because "ok there's odd time sig" or "ohh look moog!", no man, you got a 11 minute mini-epic with a lot of diversity, the same for Take the Time and Metropolis Pt 1.

To conclude, I just want to remark your "not prog enough for me", that says it all, and really changes the topic/subject completely.

Just my 2 cents.

Personally, I find if a thread puts forward an argument or debate to which I can find nothing positive to contribute, it can be better all round for me to abstain from posting, as opposed to inserting randomly negative comments which serve no other purpose than to wind up those who may want to discuss the subject concerned.

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: Let's get this out of the way right now: melodies belong in the NINETEENTH CENTURY, and I highly disapprove of anyone using them, much less prog. Otherwise, an '07 troll with 182 posts, interesting.   lol. Melodies are what makes the best music. Music isn't about trends. That's why you move from band to band quickly because they can't write melodies which will keep you interested for more than a couple of listens. Rythms only get you so far. You just follow what band is popular among metal friends

Okay, but it's pretty clear Henry's post obviously had :P stamped all over it.
Maybe it's just me and I've gotten pretty used to his posting style, but it seemed obvious to me.
As much Avant-garde  as he listens to, he still listens to music with melodies in it (even if that doesn't make up a majority of his listening I'd imagine).

In the last 3 months upon checking my last FM profile, the most listened to band is Meshuggah.
That's right MESHUGGAH.

Meshuggah are barely about melodicism, yet I listen to them very frequently.
I also like Schoenberg and his 12 tone serialism works, which are entirely atonal and very unmelodic, but nonetheless it's good music to my ears that I can listen to over and over again.

Your post is just completely ridiculous.

Walker wrote: PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: 1.  Obtain a copy of Dream Theater - Images & Words 2.  Listen to it. 3.  Report back.   Dream theatre are like Bonjovi meets Gentle Giant. You won't get much enjoyment from that apart from complexity  If you don't find prog in that album, I don't think there's much more that can be discussed.   it's prog with alot of non prog elements. Doesn't really do anything for me   You just admitted they are prog... you answered your own question... enough said

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: 1.  Obtain a copy of Dream Theater - Images & Words 2.  Listen to it. 3.  Report back.   Dream theatre are like Bonjovi meets Gentle Giant. You won't get much enjoyment from that apart from complexity

Maybe I'll start taking you seriously when you manage to get the band names right.

I'm watching the Porcupine Tree DVD.