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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 08:50
Hey Chopper, I could miss alot more than two goals for the other half!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 08:45
Apparently Henry will be on £130,000 per week!!! And is he worth it?
Well, I watched a bit of the Arsenal-Barcelona game, I saw the world's best footballer (allegedly) Ronaldhino take 2 free kicks and miss the goal completely. I mean, I could do that for half that money!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 05:44
Jim

It all comes down to Pallas with you, doesn't it..   

You gotta let these things go, man!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 04:01
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


Now I don't consider myself to be too gullible (although I did once buy the first Pallas album),

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(so did i!!!)

WE all make mistakes..........but we live and learn!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 03:59
I read your post Jim, sagely nodding in agreement...... then I read your header........

So we will be moving into "The Emmerites" stadium and waving a cheerio to Highbury..........with an empty trophy cupboard...........

I do keep things in perspective though, never wear umbro, or drink lager.........so i think I might be salvagable as a human being!!! .....
and I am still blinkin agrovated by those stoooopid flags on the cars right now!

What annoys me with some of these new clothes bands is that they feel as if they can by-pass the apprenticeship which can be long and arduous in the music business, but if you neglect the ground work (ie playing some seedy little venues to build your loyal fan base) you will tumble very quickly!
And no matter how much talent you have, (IF you have) you jerk folk off if you over hype yourself!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 03:51
And while I'm here...

BBC news this morning reported that Thierry Henri has (apparently) made the decision to remain with Arsenal, because he sees the fans as his family.

This will be nothing to do with the fact that a reported salary in excess of £110,000 per week has been put on the table for his due consideration will it?

Now I don't consider myself to be too gullible (although I did once buy the first Pallas album), and realise that such speculative reporting of alleged salaries is prone to exaggeration, but would I be completely off the mark if I considered the possibility that had Barcelona (or as they are apparently now called, "Barca") put a higher salary on the table, would Monsieur Henri then have considered his spiritual home to be in Spain?

Nobody is worth the sort of money per week which could (and I know this is a naive view) re-equip and re-staff failing hospitals - for playing football for God's sake.

+++ahem+++

That's better - I'm going to go away now, have a nice lie down, a cup of coffee, then get on with some work...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 03:40
Originally posted by Prog-Chick, the closet Umbro shirt wearing, lager swilling football fanatic, currently mourning the death of football in north London Prog-Chick, the closet Umbro shirt wearing, lager swilling football fanatic, currently mourning the death of football in north London wrote:

My main rant this morning is ...........
"the emperors new clothes" When there is piles and piles of hype about an album (usually something new) folk get swept up in it and believe the hype......... no one dares to put their head up and say "sorry folks but that there emperor is butt naked!" i like to remain positive about stuff, and if there is something I really don't like I keep my gob shut............(in the main!) but sometimes it would be good if you could put your hand up and say "what is ALL the fuss about!" without getting your head bitten off!!!


I couldn't agree more - how many more new bands are going to be foisted upon an ever more gullible public, hungry for yet another group of skinny undertalented teenagers desperate to be the next big thing? Two such bands have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread: 'The Libertines' and 'The Arctic Monkeys' - did nobody at the record companys' A&R department notice (between making their monumentally bad cocaine fuelled decisions on who the general public are to like in the next 18 months) both of these bands are fronted by vocalists who can't actually sing? No, I'd go further than that - the two croakers in question couldn't carry a tune in a very large bucket if their lives depended on it.

The Arctic Monkeys are now in a dilemma - usually, these bands "emerge" at the beginning of the year, coincidentally, just before the lineup is announced for the Glastonbury Festival, thereby guaranteeing them a place high on the bill on the main stage, usually on the Friday afternoon - this ensures maximum exposure to the target audience, many of whom will go away, convinced by the ecstatic audience reaction that they've seen THE NEXT BIG THING, but unaware that said reaction is 5% genuine & 95% "everyone else is cheering, so I'd better cheer louder, because if I don't, my friends will think I'm out of touch and I might not get laid tonight". This year, there is no Glastonbury, so The Arctic Monkeys will either (a) have to get their act together, and produce at least one more "quality" album at the end of 2006, thereby maybe getting their foot on the ladder for next year's Glastonbury (and in the process turning from "product" into a "band" who maybe worth hearing in the future), or (b) fade into obscurity.

Call me a cynic, but I think I know which option will be taken, and in a year from now The Arctic Monkeys' vocalist's highest words of wisdom will be "do you want fries with that?"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2006 at 01:55
I hate when a girlfriend asks my sister what ELP, Yes or Genesis CD I don't have to give me a present.
 
Usually my sister checks the web page of those bands, checks my albums (what is easy because I have all sorted by bands and in excell) and the ones I recieved are:
 
1.- Love Beach
2.- Invisible Touch
3.- Big Generator
4.- Re-Works Brain Salad Perjury (I sold it in 15 bucks the next day I ended with that girl)
5.- Genesis (Shapes): Changed it at the store (This girl had the good sense to give my sister the ticket)
 
When would they lear that if a Proghead doesn't own an ELP, Genesis or Yes albums after 30 years of being fans of this bands is because it sucks..
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 18:31
Darren said:
 
"I guess these bug me because I thought people who listen to prog would be more open minded and more appreciative of all forms of music."
 
Good grief no! There are lots of types of music where I'd rather eat the CD than listen to it! Naturally, I have interests outside of prog - I have a strange liking for the quirky early stuff from Dean Friedman, should you be interested - equally, many prog CDs have a future only as expensive menu items in this household. If I liked all forms of music I'd be an airhead....but we have to face facts; some music is inherently crap. Big smile
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 16:51

I got another one. A big one aimed at many on this board.

It really bugs me when people on this site who run down other forms of music, specifically punk. Just because a song is three chords and uses the rock I, IV, V pattern, it doesn't make it crap. It doesn't mean the whole genre lacks talent and (a big one here) it doesn't mean that anyone who listens to punk is a mindless automaton of the music industry willing to swallow anything. A lot of punk is simple three chord stuff but what does that make ELP with their "Ready Eddy"? What does that make Yes with their song "Man In A White Car". Rush put out a whole album of rock and roll covers and I bet there's not a minor 6th chord on the album (although I never listened that close), I bet it doesn't make all Rush music crap. I could go on but the point is that simplicity doesn't mean lack of talent. Music based on feeling rather that musical knowledge does not mean lack of talent.
 
On a similar note, I really don't like it when people run down the 80's as if no good music was produced at all. I think this has more to do with the abundance of videos with rediculous hairstyles of the decade. I guess a lack of video footage makes it easier to forget the lightweight 70's one hit wonders with rediculous hair and silly outfits.
 
I guess these bug me because I thought people who listen to prog would be more open minded and more appreciative of all forms of music.
 
 
 
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the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 15:08
Originally posted by crimson thing crimson thing wrote:

For those of us living around Exeter, Swindon & Bristol aren't considered West Country Wink ....
 
....but I fully expect to be trumped in turn by some Cornish surf freak....LOL


Reading all these towns made me laugh - I'm from the state of Rhode Island in the USA, and here are a list of some of the towns in that state:

Cumberland, Warwick, Exeter, East and West Greenwich, Coventry, Bristol....

and then Massachusetts has Somerset and Worcester among others.

they don't call it "new" england for nothing! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 14:28
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Actually it doesn't, inbreeding is very much on show, especially in certain places within the County.

Oh and The Wurzels are prog!
 
True up to a point - after Adge Cutler's untimely demise they went the way of post-Gabriel Genesis, alas...
'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 12:15
Actually it doesn't, inbreeding is very much on show, especially in certain places within the County.

Oh and The Wurzels are prog!


Edited by Geck0 - May 18 2006 at 12:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 12:12
Wiltshire just hides its inbreeding better

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 10:32
Oh I know we're not West Country, but some people say we are...

West Country is Somerset, Devon and East Cornwall.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 10:22
For those of us living around Exeter, Swindon & Bristol aren't considered West Country Wink ....
 
....but I fully expect to be trumped in turn by some Cornish surf freak....LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 04:41
Indeed.  Swindon here for me, so... not really West Country, but close enough!  At least I don't have the somewhat irritating Swindon accent.

Oh I knew you weren't referring to The Arctic Monkeys, but I presume you are referring to a similar phenomenon of getting caught in the hysteria.

The the bubble bursts eventually (and often, thankfully).

The Arctic Monkey are responsible for that dire song "Don't You Look Good On The Dancefloor".  It's awful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 04:31
I wasn't actually referring to the Artic Monkeys........I havn't heard them.........I don't think?!?!!?

I am near Cirencester..........which is pretty much west when you are from Norfolk!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 04:25
Ah, well I lived in Bristol for a few years and the accent did annoy me at time.  But to be fair, the Cockney accent annoys me more!  All my family are from London, but none of them are from that area of London, so I'm lucky.

Ah, so you mean something like "The Arctic Monkeys"?  People were saying how original and new that album and band sounded.  Nonsense!  It sounds like everything else.  Bland and not original!

Which album are you referring to then?

Also, where abouts are you a residence?  I class myself as West Country, even though I'm not!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2006 at 04:07
I love the Bristol accent...........it makes me laugh!
i have recently moved to the west country from Norfolk and the accent is fairly similar......... and it's such a happy accent!

My main rant this morning is ...........
"the emperors new clothes" When there is piles and piles of hype about an album (usually something new) folk get swept up in it and believe the hype......... no one dares to put their head up and say "sorry folks but that there emperor is butt naked!" i like to remain positive about stuff, and if there is something I really don't like I keep my gob shut............(in the main!) but sometimes it would be good if you could put your hand up and say "what is ALL the fuss about!" without getting your head bitten off!!!

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