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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:54 | ||
Geoff, you have to take into account the possibility that different people have different understanding of the words "low" and "lowest". C'mon, the 4.2-4.3 range isn't that bad. And again, you are taking the list too seriously. The math fails the list (no offense to the authors of the idea for this list).
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32530 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:46 | ||
You know, you do an awful lot of carping about Dream Theater's place in the chart for someone who only rates their albums. A review carries ten times the weight of a rating only. DREAM THEATER Dream Theater - Score: 20th Anniversary World Tour Live with the Octavarium Orchestra(rating only) DREAM THEATER Chaos In Motion 2007/2008(rating only) DREAM THEATER Live at Budokan(rating only) DREAM THEATER When Dream And Day Reunite [Official Bootleg](rating only) DREAM THEATER Metropolis 2000: Scenes From New York(rating only) DREAM THEATER Live at The Marquee(rating only) DREAM THEATER Once In A Livetime(rating only) DREAM THEATER Score: 20th Anniversary World Tour Live with the Octavarium Orchestra(rating only) DREAM THEATER Live at Budokan(rating only) DREAM THEATER Live Scenes From New York(rating only) DREAM THEATER Train Of Thought(rating only) DREAM THEATER Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (rating only) DREAM THEATER Octavarium(rating only) DREAM THEATER Systematic Chaos(rating only) DREAM THEATER Black Clouds & Silver Linings(rating only) DREAM THEATER Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From A Memory | review DREAM THEATER Falling Into Infinity(rating only) DREAM THEATER Awake(rating only) DREAM THEATER Images And Words | review DREAM THEATER When Dream And Day Unite (rating only) |
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32530 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:43 | ||
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dtguitarfan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:29 | ||
Yes, but collectively Prog Metal is one of the lowest rated genres on the site. Go ahead, check it out. Also, check this out: http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=&salbumtypes=1&syears=&scountries=&sminratings=1500&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=0&smaxresults=100&x=0&y=0#list That's right, they are the lowest rated band with over 1500 votes. This is why DT fans harp on the fact that they are hated around here - because they have to work the hardest to get anywhere on the PA charts. The fans have to overcome all the haters to get them anywhere on the charts. |
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:13 | ||
Give me sieges even anyday
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:08 | ||
Oh yes the time before the Brie... I remember it fondly. We literally submersed ourselves in cheddar and Roqueforts for days on end...
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 36152 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:04 | ||
Before Dream Theater there was only Proto Dream Theater, and after Dream
Theater, merely Post Dream Theater and Dream Theater Related. DT is
the pivotal point of the time-space continuum (Australian Aboriginals refer to it as the DreamTime, and in ancient times prophesied the coming of the Falling Angel of Cheese See THIS and THIS).
Really there are only two major Prog eras: BDT (before Dream Theater) and ADT (Anno Dream Theater) with some subsets which entail changing personnel such as Anno Dominici (In the Year of our Dream, 1 AD) which is also referred to as BlB (Before La Brie). |
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 16:02 | ||
To the OP:
Do yourself a favour and dismiss anything to do with "greatest", "best", "top" and "lists". I stopped looking at the top 100 a couple of years ago, and was actually only reminded of it here recently because of some punk kid in Mexico trying to champion some Yes tribute albums. The more music you stumble across, the harder and more abstract these things tend to get. Do you love the exact same kind of music now as you did back in high school? Does some music work better in the morning and is therefore only really great at that time of day? I used to adore Boney M and now I don't - does that mean that I've committed treason against my own true self? All this non-sense is of course beside the point, but merely there to show you guys that I can link words together to form sentences of sub par quality - and maybe illustrate that the notion of a single list that's supposed to equate some kind of factual merit hierarchy, is utopian and furthermore stupid as hell. Why? Because people's tastes change and listening habits change as well. What may have seemed like noise a few years ago, may now hit you right in the gizzard. Conversely, an album like Close to the Edge may have started out as a real humdinger destined to reside alone at the top of tops for eternity - only you find yourself rather bored by it, after you suddenly discovered Krautrock... Like Dean mentioned, the list is essentially Just For Fun.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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Padraic
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:46 | ||
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7850 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:41 | ||
Yes yes!!! |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7850 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:40 | ||
Ok. Why the f**k do people hate on Dream Theater so much? I really don't get it. Dream Theater are thier own unique, creative force. I think other people and bands alike are jealous of the virtuoso talent |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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HarbouringTheSoul
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 21 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:39 | ||
Dream Theater have both top spots in the prog metal chart. And people complain about the lack of appreciation for them here?
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:35 | ||
You can't compare Dream Theater with anyone because they are the bestest of all genres and all the rest of the bands are clones.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:27 | ||
All Time Top Progressive Metal Chart (aka as the What the *%$#@! are Riverside and PoS doing in the All Time Top Dream Theatre Chart!! Grrrh! those facists at Porg Anchovies really really got it in for Dreams Thaeter GrrrH! )
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What?
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7850 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:22 | ||
Yup. This is fun. ;). Anyone freaked out watching old genesis videos and seeing Phil Collins with hair?? Lol. Weird.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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M27Barney
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:15 | ||
Monty Python - Now thats when the thread DOES get funny !!!
The top 100 - should be by genre - you can't really compare 1970's Genesis - with Dream Theater but you could compare it with The Flower Kings....By Genre the poll would be more representative.....
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition....our chief weapons are.....
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dtguitarfan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:04 | ||
New admin for said forum? |
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66331 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 15:02 | ||
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 36152 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 14:59 | ||
Good idea. It would, however, be difficult to consistently maintain the "not fun at all" integrity of said forum. Failure to comply with the no fun rules could entail serious punishment, but the punishing may be too much fun. So, perhaps in to order to uphold the forum's "no fun" purity, only certain PA members (we know who they are even if they don't) who are known to consistently be no fun at all should be allowed to post in the forum. |
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thellama73
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: October 04 2012 at 14:46 | ||
I really like the idea of a "Not Fun At All" forum. |
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