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    Posted: June 18 2005 at 02:07

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I'm sure you will like the Alusa Fallax album. From your recent posts I have gotten to somewhat know your prog tastes. Based on this I'm not complitely sure that you will like Museo Rosenbach. Just remember to give it some time if it doesn't hit you instantly.

ps. It seems to me that there has been quite a lot of CD traffic in your mail box lately. That must be sad for your credit card . Well, at least Greg Walker is happy .

 

Hi Geezer ... yes, I think I took a risk with Museo but I do like some heavier stuff too ... I definitely won't give up on it too quickly! It took me a while to get into things which I love now - eg BMS Darwin!

Yeah, the postman dreads coming to my house ... I have to sneak to the letterbox before anyone sees the sackful of packages ...  

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I'm sure you will like the Alusa Fallax album. From your recent posts I have gotten to somewhat know your prog tastes. Based on this I'm not complitely sure that you will like Museo Rosenbach. Just remember to give it some time if it doesn't hit you instantly.

ps. It seems to me that there has been quite a lot of CD traffic in your mail box lately. That must be sad for your credit card . Well, at least Greg Walker is happy .


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Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione

You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!

Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra

An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason but it became my favourite 70's album.

Maxophone - s/t

An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.


And a few extra recommendations...

Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t

This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if you like it get this one next.

Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz

This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery and played in hard rock way. A must!

Campo di Marte - s/t

Fantastic and underrated album.

Apoteosi - s/t

Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.

Metamorfosi - Inferno

Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.

Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione

Fantastic and in my opinion the best interpretion of classical music. if you like classical music this is a must!


Some other similar Italian groups worth checking: Alphataurus (1st), Balletto di Bronzo (Ys), Latte e Miele, J.E.T, Osanna (Palepoli), Il Volo, Pierrot Lunaire (1st), Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno (a little jazzy), New Trolls (especially Concerto Grosso per 1)

Some other great groups but might not appeal to everyone (avant-garde, jazz fusion etc.): Area, Arti E Mestieri, Pierrot Lunaire (2nd), Picchio dal Pozzo, Pholas Dactylus


I hope this post doesn't cost you too much money. My intentions are only good.

BTW, are you familiar with new Italian groups?

 

Geezer,  the Alusa Fallax and the Museo Rosenbach are on  their way  from the USA and I'll let you know what I think when I've given them a few listens. Thanks for the recommendations

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  My preference will always be men, Greg, but I don't mind a little deviation from time to time...  
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Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

I've been told that I resemble a young Steve Hackett before...    And I certainly do play guitar...  

mmm ...  now WHO could have said that ?????????????       

 

Why don't you two get a room already..........MO...I am shocked!.....Tony R runs around chasing women with vaseline screaming " I'm not Gay!??"

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Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

I've been told that I resemble a young Steve Hackett before...    And I certainly do play guitar...  

mmm ...  now WHO could have said that ?????????????       

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2005 at 18:28
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Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

ah ... so you like polish female athletes with beards ??? Actually I look nothing like steve hackett - He's GORGEOUS!!! If you look like him or play guitar like him then maybe we can talk   ....




 

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ah ... so you like polish female athletes with beards ??? Actually I look nothing like steve hackett - He's GORGEOUS!!! If you look like him or play guitar like him then maybe we can talk   ....

 



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Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione

You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!

Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra

An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason but it became my favourite 70's album.

Maxophone - s/t

An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.


And a few extra recommendations...

Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t

This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if you like it get this one next.

Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz

This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery and played in hard rock way. A must!

Campo di Marte - s/t

Fantastic and underrated album.

Apoteosi - s/t

Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.

Metamorfosi - Inferno

Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.

Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione

All these are really great. I second these selections!! All prog collections should have most of these albums in it!

Best of 2006 that I've heard:
PFM-Stati Di Immaginazione
Zenit-Surrender (Best "unknown" album)
Oaksenham - Conquest of Pacific
2007:
Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
La Torre Del Alchimista - Neo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2005 at 00:44
Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Hi Felona, having fun with the guys I see. How do you like it so far? I see you're into Italian prog. Being a Yank, this stuff wasn't all that widely available here in the States in my era the 70s. So I'm kinda still learning about these other sub-genres. With 1500 CDs ( ego still bruised! ) you could probably teach me a few things. Fusion was the big thing for me then and still now. How 'bout you? Basically rock and jazz are my biggest musical interests. When I mean rock, I like a lot of different other genres including blues-based as well. Whereabouts in Aus are ya?


 


G'day/evening  marktheshark.  I am enjoying it very much here ... so much to chat to you guys about and also have a little fun along the way. Actually jazz/fusion is the genre I know least about so I guess you could teach ME  a few things too!!!


  I'm in Adelaide - where its cold, windy & rainy at the moment. Whovever promoted the myth that Oz is the land of eternal sunshine and barbies ... should to be roasted on one



How very Paul Hoganish of you.

Well if you want to go on an adventure into jazz/fusion, keep in mind it's not everybody's stubby of Fosters or Swan or Emil. Even some die-hard proggers find it ponderous and too loose. And I can understand that. Jazz is more or less a musician's music. I played drums and most drummers just go for it. I would say about the most symphonic fusion to checkout to start with would be violinist extraordiniare Jean Luc Ponty who unfortunately is not in the archives yet (some of us are working on it!). My favorite albums of his are the back-to-back Aurora and Imaginary Voyage done in the mid 70s.


If you decide to give him a shot, let me know.




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Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Hi Felona, having fun with the guys I see. How do you like it so far? I see you're into Italian prog. Being a Yank, this stuff wasn't all that widely available here in the States in my era the 70s. So I'm kinda still learning about these other sub-genres. With 1500 CDs ( ego still bruised! ) you could probably teach me a few things. Fusion was the big thing for me then and still now. How 'bout you? Basically rock and jazz are my biggest musical interests. When I mean rock, I like a lot of different other genres including blues-based as well. Whereabouts in Aus are ya?

 

G'day/evening  marktheshark.  I am enjoying it very much here ... so much to chat to you guys about and also have a little fun along the way. Actually jazz/fusion is the genre I know least about so I guess you could teach ME  a few things too!!!

  I'm in Adelaide - where its cold, windy & rainy at the moment. Whovever promoted the myth that Oz is the land of eternal sunshine and barbies ... should to be roasted on one

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 23:54
Hi Felona, having fun with the guys I see. How do you like it so far? I see you're into Italian prog. Being a Yank, this stuff wasn't all that widely available here in the States in my era the 70s. So I'm kinda still learning about these other sub-genres. With 1500 CDs ( ego still bruised! ) you could probably teach me a few things. Fusion was the big thing for me then and still now. How 'bout you? Basically rock and jazz are my biggest musical interests. When I mean rock, I like a lot of different other genres including blues-based as well. Whereabouts in Aus are ya?
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Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

Geezer ....that's a pretty comprehensive list ...it appears that you rather like Italian Prog

How did you first get into this wonderful genre?


Oh boy, i luv it! It was about 5-6 years ago when I first heard Italian prog. It was the Locanda delle Fate album which I purchased blindly just because I got enthusiastic after reading many Italian prog album reviews. That album just had that something I felt was missing from everything else I had heard. It's hard to explain if you haven't experienced it. Actually, it wasn't until this experience that I really became a prog fan. After this I started to explore the Italian prog scene and little by little also many other groups from various countries. I noticed that progressive music that I like is made all over the world. I'm not limited to Italian prog in any way though it definitely is easily my favourite prog genre.

And those bands that i listed are just the icing of the cake (most of the classic stuff) because there has been a lot prog released in Italy especially in the seventies. Even today the italian prog scene is one of the most active ones though not as rewarding as in the seventies (where is it?). I have albums from quite a few other italian groups as well and of which some are very good.

So, how did you get into Italian prog? This site is great if you want to learn more about Italian groups because there is even mp3s. Do you have a mp3 player (WinAmp or Windows Media Player) in your computer?

how interesting ... it was the Locanda  delle Fate album that was my first purchase ... it was recommended one of those Listmania thingies on Amazon  .... and I liked the artwork! Next I downloaded many samples from here, read  reviews and then in no time I had built up a basic collection ... so as you can see Ive still got a long way to travel with this wonderful genre

There IS  something indefinable about this music -  maybe its because I don't know what the heck they're singing about (I prefer the singing in Italian)  and to focus on the musical qualities of the vocals and the musical feel of the words .... there's  lots of passion, intensity and great musicianship -I believe  many were classically trained.

Or maybe its just because I think Italian is  very  sexy ....

btw .... I have just listened to Le Orme's Elementi ... THEY'RE BACK!!!!!!



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Originally posted by nimrodel nimrodel wrote:

Originally posted by felona felona wrote:

 so I am not alone!!!!!

 

 

 

no youre not. i love you. please marry me! 

ah ... so you like polish female athletes with beards ??? Actually I look nothing like steve hackett - He's GORGEOUS!!! If you look like him or play guitar like him then maybe we can talk   ....

 

 

 



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Well, Felona, I sure hope that's not a picture of yourself you have as your avatar. Unless you're a Polish female athlete, they usually have beards.
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 so I am not alone!!!!!

 

 

 

no youre not. i love you. please marry me! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 13:38
Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:


<span style="font-weight: bold;">Alusa Fallax - Intorno alla mia Cattiva Educazione</span>



You need to get this asap! Based on the Italian groups you have
mentioned i can give you a 100% guarantee that you will love this
album. This album is kinda like a mix of the QVL debut and the Locanda
delle Fate album. Wonderful and one of my favourites!

<br style="font-weight: bold;">

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra</span>



An absolute masterpiece! The overall sound of this album is a little
heavier than the likes of Banco, Le Orme and PFM but the album
alternates in mellow and heavier sections (especially in the title
suite) that are simply breathtaking. The mellow sections are the most
beautiful you'll hear in prog. This band has a superb drummer Giancarlo
Golzi who plays like he is in acids and in many ways he is the driving
wheel in the band. This album didn't hit me instantly for some reason
but it became my favourite 70's album.



<span style="font-weight: bold;">Maxophone - s/t

</span>An excellent album! I don't like this album as much as the
aforementioned albums but it doesn't mean that this isn't good. You
would probably like this album because you like italian prog in general.





And a few extra recommendations...



<span style="font-weight: bold;">Biglietto per L'inferno - s/t</span>



This is one of my absolute faves! Again, this is little heavier like
Museo Rosenbach. I recommend you to start with Museo Rosenbach and if
you like it get this one next.



<span style="font-weight: bold;">Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz</span>



This album is fantastic and quite original as well. This group is led
by a fantastic guitar player Michele Zarrillo whose playing is fiery
and played in hard rock way. A must!



<span style="font-weight: bold;">Campo di Marte - s/t</span>



Fantastic and underrated album.



<span style="font-weight: bold;">Apoteosi - s/t</span>



Fantastic and based on your tastes you would probably like this.

<span style="font-weight: bold;"></span>

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Metamorfosi - Inferno</span>



Fantastic and for some reason overlooked by some.



<span style="font-weight: bold;">Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione</span>



Fantastic and in my opinion the best interpretion of classical music. if you like classical music this is a must!





Some other similar Italian groups worth checking: Alphataurus (1st), Balletto di Bronzo (Ys),
Latte e Miele, J.E.T, Osanna (Palepoli), Il Volo, Pierrot Lunaire (1st), Raccomandata
Ricevuta Ritorno (a little jazzy), New Trolls (especially Concerto
Grosso per 1)



Some other great groups but might not appeal to everyone (avant-garde,
jazz fusion etc.): Area, Arti E Mestieri, Pierrot Lunaire (2nd),
Picchio dal Pozzo, Pholas Dactylus





I hope this post doesn't cost you too much money. My intentions are only good.



BTW, are you familiar with new Italian groups?


Not 70's Italian groups I can rec. you:
Deus Ex Machina
A Piedi Nudi
Malibran
Sithonia (if you like BMS you must have and I personally know the guitar player...)
La Maschera Di Cera
Evil Wings (Prog Metal with English vocals, IMO they're terribly underrated, even IMO They're better than Dream Theater but they were unlucky to be Italians and not Americans...)
Finisterre
Barrock
Ezra Winston
Men Of Lake
Nuova Era
Castello di Atlante
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2005 at 12:23

Originally posted by jojim jojim wrote:

Felona - don't worry about this ongoing thread. One woman and tons of men - this can't lead anywhere. Stoneage isn't far away.

Just to say: your list has many artists I like very much, and even more that I don't even know. But I have the same feeling about DREAM THEATRE. Not getting it's music in my head. They lack fantasy - IMHO. The same I have to encounter with RUSH. Very strange.

I personally like GENTLE GIANTS album "Three friends". "Octopus" ist nice. But "Three friends" has more soul and flesh. You can bite on it. It's good for the teeth. But it also has magic moments of lyrical width and softness. Exciting music.

Perhaps I missed it on your list. But one of my all time prog loves is UK "UK" with Bruford, JObson, Holdsworht and John Wetton .  That you "must" at least give a try for your own's sake. Unbelievable music. If I had to bring a record up to the moon the deposit it as represantative for earth music - I would choose this UK album. Of course "Selling England" and "Close to the edge" would also do the job. But UK UK is a decent record. It is mind buggling.

Hope I didn't steel your time.

  no, you didn''t steal my time I always enjoy hearing from fellow music-lovers! Thanks for the great recommendations - I have listened to the GG samples and from the basis of these, I think I like will like them a lot. I have also listened to the 2 UK samples here and am very impressed as I love Wetton's voice and have always admired Bruford's work. Have you heard the new album with him & Downes called ICON? Its really rather good ... much less cheesy than the Asia output   ... but which I kinda like too  ... even though they aren't highly regarded here much it seems. I can understand why ... but maybe sometimes we need to have cheese with our bread !

 

 

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