Porcupine Tree curiosities

All I noticed was that live he sings "To even less" instead of "For even less". same with the version on Recordings (that's more than twice as long)

and no, I didn't know the origin of the sample (I rearely do, although I figured out the "Rambo" sample on OSI's version of New Mama - that was simple enough).

very interesting, though

What is the meaning of the counting at the end of Even Less?
The counting is taken from a recording of a shortwave numbers station. It is understood that these stations are used by intelligence agencies to transmit coded messages to overseas operatives, although no government agency has ever acknowledged the existence of these stations or what their actual purpose might be.

http://www.porcupinetree.com/discography.details.cfm?album id=44
^ demo version lyrics available there

and from the porcupine tree unofficial message board....

You wanna hear something hilarious??  We actually asked him about that after one of the shows.  We were like... "In Even Less, on the album you sing for even less but live you sing to even less.  We were wondering if there is something behind that."  SW looks perplexed and responds..... "I never noticed that.  That goes to show you... I don't even listen to my own records!"  And he laughs.

Hope this helps

fractal wrote: Miaugion wrote: fractal wrote: Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that? I've never listend to that live version but I know that "Even Less" was originally intended to be a(n) (anti-)religious song and had different lyrics with obvious allusions to Mr. Christ. Finally, Wilson took the edge off it by changing the lyrics for the relase of "Stupid Dream". Is Mr. Wilson atheist?

Sorry, I don't know about his outlook on everything. And I can't find the original lyrics at the moment. Thought you could get them on the PT website but ... nothing.

Miaugion wrote: fractal wrote: Have you noticed that "Even Less" lyrics are quite different in Warzsawa compared to Stupid Dream? Why is that? I've never listend to that live version but I know that "Even Less" was originally intended to be a(n) (anti-)religious song and had different lyrics with obvious allusions to Mr. Christ. Finally, Wilson took the edge off it by changing the lyrics for the relase of "Stupid Dream".

Is Mr. Wilson atheist? It doesn't surprise me at all, specially after reading some of his lyrics.

I am kinda an agnostic pantheist myself.

fractal wrote: Ed_The_Dead wrote: IITS MR GOVERNER, NOT ARNOLD!!!!!!!!!!           You mean Mr. GOVERNATOR?

I thought Governor was also correct...

And I still think it is!!!

Then there is Voyage 34, which I think has something to do with the time duration in minutes of someone's bad trip. But why if it is not a 34 minute album?

Empathy wrote: Yep, great sample, eh? I don't have Stupid Dream or Warsawa yet, but they're on the list. Intriguing that the lyrics are different. Have you ever wondered what those numbers were at the end of Even Less? Do a google search for "number stations"

Something to do with espionage? I've heard about that don't know where. Urban legend probably?

Ed_The_Dead wrote: Its WARSZAWA, NOt WARZAWA!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't say "Warzawa", I said "Warzsawa".

I blame Arnold Schwarzenegger. He confused me.

(Yes, I know he is from Austria, not Poland, but the spelling of "warz" comes naturally.)

Thanks a lot FRACTAL for the answers!!!!!!!!!!!

TURK182! wrote: Second, the religious group you're talking about is it "Le temple solaire" or in english "The solar temple"?

Nope, he's talking about the "Heaven's Gate" Cult.