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Yorkie X
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Topic: tired of Tech/Extreme Prog choking up the site ? Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:40 |
OPeth this Opeth that its not progressive this, it is progressive that .... I'm getting a little tired of Tech / Extreme prog bands being featured on this site in such a constant way, day after day it seems like always the same thing ... how about you ? <<< Yorkie X weaves and ducks rotten tomatoes and heads out the back door before the angry mob nails him to their upside down crucifix and sets fire to him.
Edited by Yorkie X - June 21 2008 at 03:56
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:43 |
Agreed. Cookie Monster belongs elsewhere.
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laplace
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:49 |
no, I think the extreme metal bands tend to be doing something valid for the site, or at least the new part of the site - I know this sort of music rarely/barely shares traits with anything relevant from 1969-1977 but you can still call their music a progressive development.
I would've pointed my finger squarely at the crossover and progmetal sections; these are breeding grounds for instantly predictable music, at least from what's represented among 2008 releases...
Edited by laplace - June 21 2008 at 03:49
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:51 |
at least there was something being talked about seriously, or would you rather just see another poll for favorite classic rock harmonica player?
..and I think it's great when a small genre like Tech gets some attention
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Yorkie X
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:53 |
Laplace wrote:
no, I think the extreme metal bands tend to be doing something valid for the site, or at least the new part of the site - I know this sort of music rarely/barely shares traits with anything relevant from 1969-1977 but you can still call their music a progressive development.
I would've pointed my finger squarely at the crossover and prog metal sections; these are breeding grounds for instantly predictable music, at least from what's represented among 2008 releases... |
a valid point in the discussion one which I cant deny .. they are keeping the prog wheel in motion and doing their bit in that way I suppose
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:57 |
Yorkie X wrote:
Laplace wrote:
no, I think the extreme metal bands tend to be doing something valid for the site, or at least the new part of the site - I know this sort of music rarely/barely shares traits with anything relevant from 1969-1977 but you can still call their music a progressive development.
I would've pointed my finger squarely at the crossover and prog metal sections; these are breeding grounds for instantly predictable music, at least from what's represented among 2008 releases... | a valid point in the discussion one which I cant deny .. they are keeping the prog wheel in motion and doing their bit in that way I suppose
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that's the spirit!
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Yorkie X
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:59 |
Atavachron wrote:
at least there was something being talked about seriously, or would you rather just see another poll for favorite classic rock harmonica player?
..and I think it's great when a small genre like Tech gets some attention
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tongue in cheek this poll started ... but you watch it will probably develop into something more ... like a snow ball effect ...
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 04:00 |
I voted yes, because I'm generally tired of any focus on all things metal. But I'd rather take the extreme ones than the whole school of cheesemetal. (Much better name for it)
Edited by Rocktopus - June 21 2008 at 04:02
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JayDee
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 04:06 |
Incidentally, there also has been a lot of oppositions with the genre, that chokes us Tech Extreme metal believers. Classic progressive rock had it's day. We are not in the 1970s anymore.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 04:13 |
I think people are talking about Opeth a lot because they just had a new release that is fairly controversial and they're already a popular band. I don't even remember more than like one or two Opeth threads recently, which is hardly a great annoyance to me. And I have to agree with Atavachron, it's better than another mostly useless/rehash thread that will actively annoy me to see rather than one I can skip out of lack of interest. ;-)
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 05:13 |
I'm not a fan of death/extreme/tech/uber prog metal at all. However, I've been on this forum since 2004, and I think that the abundance of discussions on this type of music, is an indicator that there must be more younger members than ever before. I dont like generalising, but I'm fairly confident that this modern tech/death/prog metal appeals predominantly to younger prog fans.
Now, this is a good thing!! It keeps this site alive for a start. The music itself keeps some of the most important basic principles of prog alive (Cert1fied may disagree!) and if old timers like myself want to discuss codpieces and Mellotrons, they are at liberty to do so. We old schoolers know that there is only so many times you can vote on the best Genesis album.
I say, if techno death metal threads get your goat, dont participate, just fight back with as many classic prog threads as you can!
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 05:26 |
no sir! I'm no youngin, been a headbanger since the early 80s and Tech is the most exciting form of it to come along in awhile ..and Death and Tech have little to do with each other, Opeth may be considered 'Death' by some, but the backbone of Tech is Behold the Arctopus, Spastic Ink, Collapsar, Spiral Architect, etc...
Edited by Atavachron - June 21 2008 at 05:29
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Yorkie X
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:02 |
in the broad spectrum of music they're progressive as in moving forward. certainly prefer that to the myriad of Dream Theatre clones. in any genre you always get the innovators and the copiers
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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Hercules
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:20 |
Don't get me wrong - I like Opeth, but how they can be classed as progressive mystifies me. And as for bands like Meshuggah and Dillinger Escape Plan - words fail me.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:23 |
care to mention a few metal bands you think are progressive..?
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:32 |
Opeth may yet be called prog, but there is an orange alert threat of pollution by death metal acts which have a total lack of melodic content. An incidental 5/4 or 7/8 time signature, a few 7+ minute songs or a guitar solo played at triple speed don't turn metal into prog.
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GentleGiant
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:56 |
This Tech/Extreme (Prog ?) it's NOT progressive rock ,go away to the metal sites
Edited by GentleGiant - June 21 2008 at 07:00
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 06:59 |
^ but it is progressive metal, a form of rock, which is why it's here.. I don't really see your point
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