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    Posted: August 30 2024 at 14:33
Hi  .  The live album Independent Stateside  from 2023  is missing in Jon Anderson’s discography. I am not sure how to contact the site to point this out….  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2024 at 14:35
You should be able to add that album yourself if you go to Jon Anderson's page.
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thanks! had no idea one could do that
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2024 at 21:39
^ Please don't add bootlegs in future.

Additionally it's badly added https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86459 and already reported:
Originally posted by Gordy Gordy wrote:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86459

^Bootleg release (and added without attention to a single detail)

Released by bootleg label Wicker Man.
Greg, please delete it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2024 at 21:43
I have a tendency to check this site at propitious times. I was worried that might happen. Anyway, deleted.
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sorry about that. had no idea it was a bootleg. It is on spotify!
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and @notaproghead, I was about to add all the details

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2024 at 04:02
Don't worry about it, Francisco, I appreciate that you were willing to add it. These guys are used to spotting bootlegs for this site and it's not the first time that an album was added on Spotify that later got deleted due to it being a bootleg. I have added albums and then later edited in the details. Welcome to the forum.   
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Hi,

I agree that bootlegs should not be listed ... but then, I look at the number of "singles" that are just more attempts to promote the band for financial this and that ... and in the end, I don't see the difference between a fan group (bootlegger) or a record company ... many of which even created their own bootlegging activity to get attention to the game and artist ... and this is not exactly new in the story of things.

In this sense, I would like PA to find some way to separate the singles from the albums ... otherwise the different version of something is fine with me ... I'm not even sure that we should call, for example< the Grateful Dead's stuff "bootlegs" since you were able to plug in, for free, to their sound board to record it ... and with a smile ... not a complaint or legality!


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Thanks Logan! By the way, for any Jon Anderson fans reading this, it is a very good live album! Catch it while you can!
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Originally posted by fnegrin fnegrin wrote:

and @notaproghead, I was about to add all the details

Please in future collect all details first and only then add the album. Because according to PA policy non-collabs can't edit albums' details.

To add/correct details, a couple of special threads exist:
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Missing album art:
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40509
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41615
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41974
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42549 - ??
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42869
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43552
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43667
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43802
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48143
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48330
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52051
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54571
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55539
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56930
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57936
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60546
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61660
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61734
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61735
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65746
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=87950
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=89808
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=89809

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Edited by NotAProghead - March 29 2025 at 13:54
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^ I know this sometimes happens when an album is moved from one artist's page to another, but why so many albums should be missing their artwork I really haven't got a clue. Confused

I found sources for the first six missing covers, but I'm not going to add the images at the moment in case this is just a temporary problem with the existing cover images.

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=41974 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2138607361_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42549 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1725961745_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42869 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3104191685_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43552 - https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b2731f5ace9f2eee323b6e2d246f.

Number seven in the list (https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43667) is a bit of a mess at the moment: The track listing and credits on that page are for a split that Viscera/// did with Self Human Combustion called 'Self Human Combustion Vs. Viscera/// - Control Freak / Olocausto Farmaceutico' (see Discogs), and the album art for it can be found here: https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2516045266_10.jpg, or here (Discogs).

The rest of Viscera///'s Bandcamp page for their portion of the split with Self Human Combustion can be found at: https://viscera3stripes.bandcamp.com/album/self-human-combusion-vs-viscera.

Viscera///'s 'Manifestacion De Execrable Violencia' release was just a 5-track demo EP with a completely different set of songs on it, and it was released in 2004, not 2007.

So, if we're keeping it, the existing album on PA needs renaming to 'Self Human Combustion Vs. Viscera/// - Control Freak / Olocausto Farmaceutico', and the demo EP called 'Manifestacion De Execrable Violencia' needs adding to the Viscera/// page (see here, here and here for details). None of those three sites have a particularly good-sized cover image - in fact it's the same 282x284 image on all three of them, so I guess that'll have to do.

I can take care of all this if the E&O team wants me to, but I'd best wait for them to read through the details for themselves first, since they'll maybe just go ahead and do the job anyway. Embarrassed

Edit: There is a link in the admin panel which is supposed to reveal any 'Albums without cover', but nothing shows up when you click on it.


Edited by yam yam - March 28 2025 at 00:40
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Thank you for the prompt reply and the info.
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^^ Thanks, guys, I've added the first cover in the list.
Will try to sort out the rest. 
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Next five in the list:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=43802 - https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b273baf00feebabba28f05cafa70.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48143 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3816551173_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48330 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0464777390_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52051 - https://e.snmc.io/i/fullres/w/b8da1b17961a51dddeb874a53b3f6347/5505627.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54571 - https://e.snmc.io/i/fullres/w/686457ddd24342867be44c2ca6ddcd8e/10754802 or Discogs (image will need editing).

That last one is also missing the line-up and releases info (though it does give the Discogs page where this can be found):

- Roe Tyler / vocals
- Don Tyler / bass guitar, bass pedals, vocals
- Tom Finch / electric & acoustic guitars, vocals
- Nick Peck / keyboards, vocals
- Gary Scheuenstuhl / drums, percussion

Cassette Episong Publishing - 1002 (1991, USA)

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Two more:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55539 - https://e.snmc.io/i/fullres/w/c2ab7d7cba94159fdbdb1de931037df9/1840010.

Needs other info formatting, plus:
7" Vinyl Virgin - 17633 AT, Virgin - 17 633 AT (1976, Netherlands)


Missing info:
1. New Life (8:06) 
2. Black Biplane (5:15) 
3. Crisis (5:27) 
4. Rebirth (7:42) 
5. Another Dimension (4:13) 
6. B&W Dreams (5:48) 
7. Shadows (4:56) 

Total Time 41:27

- Eugene Popov / guitars
- Artiom Maklakov / keyboards
- Anatoliy Polovnikov / drums
- Alexander Vetrogon / bass


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And another five:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=57936 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0686203748_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60546 - https://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/0/1/0/101093.gif (very small image, but can't find anything better).
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61660 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2950220945_10.jpg.

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Last four:

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65746 - https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3332333373_10.jpg.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=89808 - This is an exclusive CDr album available only to members of District 97's 'Inside The Vault Club', so I'm not sure that it really belongs on the site (none of the other Inside The Vault Club releases are here), but if it does, then it needs moving down into the 'Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo' section, and the image can be got from Discogs.
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=89809 - https://i.scdn.co/image/ab67616d0000b2739a6c382ca8556a84f84eaab8.

If you want me to go ahead and update any of these releases myself, then just say so.

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Edited by NotAProghead - March 29 2025 at 13:53
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Thank you very much, @yamyam and @notaproghead. I'm new to Progarchives.com, but I'm very impressed with your service.
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