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1. Fuchsia - s/t
2. Jethro Tull - Songs from the Wood
3. Comus - First Utterance
4. Strawbs - Hero and Heroine
5. Spirogyra - Bells, Boots and Shambles
6. Hoelderlin - Hoelderlin's Traum
7. Pentangle - Basket of Light
8. Tudor Lodge - s/t
9. Jan Dukes the Grey - Mice and Rats in the Loft
10. Ithaca - A Game for All Who Know

Next are:
Harmonium "Les Cinq Saisons"
Trader Horne "Morning Way"
Breche "Carapace et chair tendre"
Gryphon "Midnight Mushrumps"
Traffic "John Barleycorn Must Die"


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Top 10 update with Enigmatic's votes added:=

1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (232 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (163 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (129 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (120 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (79 points)
6. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (77 points)
7. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (73 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (70 points)
9. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (67 points)
10. HARMONIUM - Les Cinq Saisons (66 points)


11. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (60 points)
12. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (59 points)
13. STRAWBS - Ghosts (56 points)
14. FUCHSIA - Fuchsia (54 points)
15. HORSLIPS - The Tain (50 points)
16. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points)
17. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (41 points)
18. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
18. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
18. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (40 points)

21. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
21. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Hazards of Love (36 points)
23. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (35 points)
24. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
25. GRYPHON - Red Queen to Gryphon Three (32 points)
26. GRYPHON - Midnight Mushrumps (31 points)
27. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
27. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
27. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
27. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan (30 points)
27. SPYROGYRA - Bells, Boots and Shambles (30 points)


A new entry straight in at #14 for Fuchsia! Thumbs Up


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 02 2022 at 07:00
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Hi,

I do wish that you did not duplicate the same artist in the listing ... I have no beef with JT and its popularity (they deserve it) but having 4 albums in the top 20 really hurts 3 other bands that deserve to be mentioned, and have not had the chances that JT has been so lucky and very good, to get!


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I do wish that you did not duplicate the same artist in the listing ... I have no beef with JT and its popularity (they deserve it) but having 4 albums in the top 20 really hurts 3 other bands that deserve to be mentioned, and have not had the chances that JT has been so lucky and very good, to get!
That's why I said " list your ten favourite  Prog Folk albums by *ten different artists*"  in the intro back on Page 1. If it wasn't for that ruling, there would've been even more Jethro Tull albums in the eventual Top 30.  Wink


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I do wish that you did not duplicate the same artist in the listing ... I have no beef with JT and its popularity (they deserve it) but having 4 albums in the top 20 really hurts 3 other bands that deserve to be mentioned, and have not had the chances that JT has been so lucky and very good, to get!
That's why I said " list your ten favourite  Prog Folk albums by *ten different artists*"  in the intro back on Page 1. If it wasn't for that ruling, there would've been even more Jethro Tull albums in the eventual Top 30.  Wink

I dig both views. Hey, Paul, could you list the top 40 Prog Folk albums as voted by members. I know it's a bit more work, but I'd like to ferret through a longer list.  
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I do wish that you did not duplicate the same artist in the listing ... I have no beef with JT and its popularity (they deserve it) but having 4 albums in the top 20 really hurts 3 other bands that deserve to be mentioned, and have not had the chances that JT has been so lucky and very good, to get!
That's why I said " list your ten favourite  Prog Folk albums by *ten different artists*"  in the intro back on Page 1. If it wasn't for that ruling, there would've been even more Jethro Tull albums in the eventual Top 30.  Wink

I dig both views. Hey, Paul, could you list the top 40 Prog Folk albums as voted by members. I know it's a bit more work, but I'd like to ferret through a longer list.  
The list should get longer as more votes come in and it may even stretch to a Top 40, eventually. Wink
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1. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
2. Midlake - The Courage of Others
3. Tusmorke - Nordisk Krim
4. Forest - Full Circle
5. Comus - First Utterance
6. Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three
7. The Strawbs - Grave New World
8. Harmonium - Si On Avait Besoin d'une Cinquieme Saison
9. Trees - On the Shore
10. Tea & Symphony - An Asylum for the Musically Insane

(Best prog folk track - Tam Lin by Steeleye Span 10-minute live version)

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Top 10 update with DayDawnsDark's votes added:-

1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (262 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (173 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (129 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (120 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (79 points)
6. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (77 points)
7. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (73 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (70 points)
8. HARMONIUM - Les Cinq Saisons (70 points)
10. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (67 points)



11. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (60 points)
12. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (59 points)
13. STRAWBS - Ghosts (56 points)
14. FUCHSIA - Fuchsia (54 points)
15. HORSLIPS - The Tain (50 points)
16. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points)
17. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (41 points)
18. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
18. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
18. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (40 points)

21. GRYPHON - Red Queen to Gryphon Three (38 points)
22. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (36 points)
22. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Hazards of Love (36 points)
24. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (35 points)
25. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (33 points)
26. GRYPHON - Midnight Mushrumps (31 points)
26. STRAWBS - Grave New World (31 points)
28. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
28. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
28. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
28. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan (30 points)
28. SPYROGYRA - Bells, Boots and Shambles (30 points)

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Now that Harmonium has been moved to its rightful place in Prog Folk, can we start this thread over?


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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Now that Harmonium has been moved to its rightful place in Prog Folk, can we start this thread over?


I already added up all of the votes for Harmonium, putting them straight into the Top 10 with 70 points. Thumbs Up


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 03 2022 at 02:20
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I see I've missed out on a lot of interesting discussions regarding some of my dearest albums/bands/artists, and of course music - by not having noticed this thread until now. I don't care whether a favorite of mine is in PA's prog folk-section or not. The sub-sections here are sometimes handy, but mostly a joke. So I'm allowed to include Under Wraps but not Liege & Lief? (not that I would consider any of them). I try to keep the folk here "progressive" and not just folk. Don't really have a top ten, nor do I consider no. 2 as more of a favorite than no. 8 etc... I love them both equally. But made a list to join in on the "fun":

1 Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter
2 Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes
3 Roy Harper - Stormcock
4 Pentangle - Cruel Sister
5 Ragnarok - Ragnarok
6 Comus - First Utterance
7 Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer
8 Robbie Băsho - Visions Of The Country
9 Jethro Tull  - Benefit
10 Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms

-just as wonderful and warmly reccomended...

Bridget St. John - Songs for the Gentle Man
Spirogyra - St.Radiguns
Woven Hand - Consider The Birds
Extradition - Hush
Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis - Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis
Continuum - Continuum
Nya Ljudbolaget - Nya Ljudbolaget
Strawbs - From The Witchwood
Hölderlin - Hölderlins Traum
Kolinda -  Kolinda 2
Kapela Ze Wsi Warszawa - Wiosna Ludu
Zeit - Un Giorno In Una Piazza Mediterranea
Dulcimer - And I Turned As I Had As a Boy
John Renbourn Group - The Enchanted Garden
Merit Hemmingson - Huvva!
Turid - Bilder
Ptarmigan - Ptarmigan
Veronique Chalot -  À L'Entrée Du Temps Clair

I also love Dead Can Dance, but they are not prog folk to me. Love Joni Mitchell and Nick Drake as much as anyone, but well for some reason I didn't include them.


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^ I like all of those albums you mentioned, out of the ones I know of. Here's the latest update with your votes added:-

1. JETHRO TULL - Thick as a Brick (262 points)
2. COMUS - First Utterance (179 points)
3. ROY HARPER - Stormcock (144 points)
4. JETHRO TULL - Songs from the Wood (120 points)
5. DEAD CAN DANCE - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun (79 points)
6. PENTANGLE - Basket of Light (77 points)
7. STRAWBS - Hero and Heroine (73 points)
8. SPIROGYRA - St. Radigunds (70 points)
8. HARMONIUM - Les Cinq Saisons (70 points)
10. ALAN STIVELL - Renaissance on a Celtic Harp (67 points)


11. JETHRO TULL - Minstrel in the Gallery (60 points)
12. JAN DUKES DE GREY - Mice and Rats in the Loft (59 points)
13. STRAWBS - Ghosts (56 points)
14. FUCHSIA - Fuchsia (54 points)
15. HORSLIPS - The Tain (50 points)
16. PENTANGLE - Cruel Sister (48 points)
17. NORTH SEA RADIO ORCHESTRA - I Am Moon (47 points)
18. PEARLS BEFORE SWINE - The Use of Ashes (42 points)
19. CARMEN - Dancing on a Cold Wind (41 points)
20. TIM BUCKLEY - Starsailor (40 points)
20. PTARMIGAN - Ptarmigan (40 points)
20. JETHRO TULL - A Passion Play (40 points)

23. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter (38 points)
23. GRYPHON - Red Queen to Gryphon Three (38 points)
23. PERRY LEOPOLD - Christian Lucifer (38 points)
26. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Hazards of Love (36 points)
27. STRAWBS - From the Witchwood (35 points)
28. GRYPHON - Midnight Mushrumps (31 points)
28. STRAWBS - Grave New World (31 points)
30. PERERIN - Teithgan (30 points)
30. THE DECEMBERISTS - The Crane Wife (30 points) 
30. THE GHOST - When You're Dead - One Second (30 points)
30. INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - Earthspan (30 points)
30. SPYROGYRA - Bells, Boots and Shambles (30 points)


The first entry for Tom Rapp & Pearls Before Swine. Thumbs Up



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What a fine thread this has turned out to be, with many intelligent exchanges Hug

Surprised that Gryphon is not as highly as I'd have expected them to be, though.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Veronique Chalot -  À L'Entrée Du Temps Clair

I also love Dead Can Dance, but they are not prog folk to me.


Chalot's two albums are certainly very notableStarStarStarStar Clap and in some ways adventurous & experimental (read medieval) enough to almost fit here, but the "rock" element is totally absentGeek.

Yup, I must say the DCD is somewhat my personal fùck-up. Embarrassed
1- TBH, with insight and hindsight,  I'd prefer DCD not to be included in PA at all (or certainly not in Prog Folk)
2- But I really thought Aion deserved to be here, because it's as prog folk as possible, and I was a little blinded by the holy grail.
3- But IMHO, the rest of their (DCD) albums are not "prog" (it doesn't mean I don't like some of them)
4- We the team) tried getting DCD into prog-related (hoping the Gerrard-Schulze link would help), but this was refused by the admins, so we were condemned into taking in in Prog Folk - on the basis that their middle-era albums are "world/folk music" - or not include them at all.

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Just like we're kind of stuck with the PA system, with some originally folk singers such as Tim Buckley and Roy Harper or John Martyn (and to a lesser extent Al Stewart, because he's not in PA) and their middle-era best (and proggiest) albums:
Who in their right mind can only say that Lorca, Starsailor, Solid Air, Bullingswhat, Year Of The Cat (etc...) are prog-folk?? But everywhere on the web and paperpress, all three/four are cited in folk, because that's how they started.




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^ I'm glad Dead Can Dance are here on PA, whatever genre they're listed under. I only wish Brendan Perry and Lisa Gerrard were here too. Smile
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the list would get longer ...


Hi,

I don't think so ... you put together the albums within that artist ... like this:

JETHRO TULL: Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Passion Play, Songs From The Wood, etc, etc

YES: Close To the Edge, Fragile, Tales From Topographic Oceans, Relayer


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Veronique Chalot -  À L'Entrée Du Temps Clair


Chalot's two albums are certainly very notableStarStarStarStar Clap and in some ways adventurous & experimental (read medieval) enough to almost fit here, but the "rock" element is totally absentGeek.
Yes you're quite right, but to my ears she still fits the progressive folk-bill. There's plenty of stuff on PA that lacks a "rock" element really. I understand what you mean though, and have no problem with her not being on PA. But Veronique's early music/folk is rather complex and sometimes has these eastern tinged psychedelia/indo/raga excursions plus occasionally grooves along wildly in a Comus/ISB sort of way. That's prog folk enough for me, personally:)

Btw: I'm guessing you're thinking of her second and third album as her debut La chanson de Provence is much more straight forward french folk than the two equally fantastic J'ai Vu Le Loup and À L'Entrée Du Temps Clair
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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the list would get longer ...


Hi,

I don't think so ... you put together the albums within that artist ... like this:

JETHRO TULL: Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Passion Play, Songs From The Wood, etc, etc

YES: Close To the Edge, Fragile, Tales From Topographic Oceans, Relayer


The list is getting longer after each round of voting. We're already up to 34 albums, so only another 6 albums to go now to make it a Top 40. Smile


Edited by Psychedelic Paul - January 03 2022 at 07:24
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^ I'm glad Dead Can Dance are here on PA, whatever genre they're listed under.
Me too. They are most certainly progressive - and in the truest sense. I just felt they didn't fit in on my list of prog folk-favorites.
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I agree with Hugues about DCD's "Aion", but also the next album "Into the Labyrinth".  Both are wonderful prog folk IMO
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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the list would get longer ...


Hi,

I don't think so ... you put together the albums within that artist ... like this:

JETHRO TULL: Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Passion Play, Songs From The Wood, etc, etc

YES: Close To the Edge, Fragile, Tales From Topographic Oceans, Relayer


The list is getting longer after each round of voting. We're already up to 34 albums, so only another 6 albums to go now to make it a Top 40. Smile

Hi,

Yeah ... just what we need .. more POP music! Cry
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