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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

No you're not, he always feigns innocence and a lack of understanding, it's BS.


What's BS, by the way?


Bullsh*t


It maybe might look like by purpose, but I guess you know it's not. 
I find your remark very funny and very good and creative response to Cristi's humor - and, as you surely could see, it helped me in relation to mine.


I was referring to Psycho Paul.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

 
I was referring to Psycho Paul.

Okay, sorry, I misunderstood that because I was quoted and Cristi was answering my remark.
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I'll just rank the ones I own:

1. PFM - Per Un Amico
2. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona
3. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
4. Le Orme - Florian
5. Osanna - Palepoli
6. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
7. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
8. PFM - L'Isola Di Niente
9. Unreal City - La Crudeltà Di Aprile
10. Alphataurus - Alphataurus
11. PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto
12. Maxophone - Maxophone

13. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
14. RDM - Contamination (unfortunately I only have the English version, fortunately it's still awesome)
15. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
16. Celeste - Celeste
17. Le Orme - Contrapunti
18. PFM - Cook
19. PFM - Chocolate Kings
20. Buon Vecchio Charlie - Buon Vecchio Charlie
21. PFM - Stati Di Imaginazione
22. Acque Fragile - Mass Media Stars






Edited by Sacro_Porgo - November 09 2021 at 16:30
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1. IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO  Ys   (1972)  (The best; the gold standard; the most powerful and unique Italian release of the 1970s.)

2. PICCHIO DAL POZZO   Picchio dal Pozzo  (1976) * (I consider Picchio Dal Pozzo a Canterbury band, not an RPI band.)

3. PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI   Per Un Amico   (1972) (So compositionally rich with near-perfect contributions from each and every band member throughout.) 

4. AREA  Crac!  (1975) * (I consider Area a Jazz-Rock Fusion band, not an RPI band--and this to be the best J-R Fusion album of all-time.) 

5. CERVELLO  Melos   (1973) (Incredibly adventurous/creative compositions! And Corrado Rustici was only 17 years old!)

6. AREA  Arbeit Macht Frei   (1973)  (If we're insistent upon considering Area an RPI band, we simply cannot discount this landmark album.)

7. ARTI E MESTIERI  Tilt   (1974) (I would also argue that this band/album is miscategorized: it should be considered a Jazz-Rock Fusion album.)

8. MAXOPHONE  Maxophone   (1975) 

9. IL ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA  Contaminazione   (1973) (The perfect exhibition of one of the main goals of the early progressive rock movement: to blend classical instrumentation and composition with rock attributes.)  

10. FRANCO BATTIATO  Sulle corde di Aries   (1973)  

11. IL PAESE DEI BALOCCHI  Il Paese dei Balocchi   (1972)

12. ROCKY's FILJ  Storie di uomini e non   (1973)
 
Near Misses:

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso  Io Sono Nato Libero  (1973) 

Premiata Forneria Marconi  L'isola di niente (1974)
Alphataurus  Alphataurus  (1973)

Celeste  Principe di un giorno  (1976)  

Goblin  Roller   (1976)

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Banco del mutuo soccorso (1972)

Locanda Delle Fate Forse le lucciole non si amano più (1977)

Quella Vecchia Locanda         Il Tempo della Gioia         (1974)

Metamorfosi  Inferno   (1973)

Procession    Frontiera   (1972)

New Trolls Concerto Grosso per i New Trolls (1971)


** I would have included some 21st Century album releases if I thought any were as important and/or good as these.
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I have not yet compiled a list of my Italian prog ranking.

For now I can only say this:

I don't think there is a better album than Area's Arbeit Macht Frei.

I consider it an absolute masterpiece of contemporary music, and it is not an album belonging to the tradition of Italian prog (melodic, symphonic), it belongs to jazz-rock and the avant-garde.

Area have produced another true masterpiece, Maledetti (in addition to Caution Area and Crac, remarkable albums but in my opinion not great masterpieces).

Area therefore is candidate for the best Italian prog group.

After them I think there are Stormy Six who, with the albums L'Apprendista and Macchina Maccheronica, have produced two RIO masterpieces. Neither, however, touches the top of Arbeit Macht Frei.

In third position I think there is Banco, with two masterpieces, the debut album and Darwin - and another great Lp Nato Libero.

PFM, in my opinion an overrated group, boasts only a true masterpiece, Storia di un Minuto. For a friend it doesn't seem like a real masterpiece.

Rosenbach Museum boasts a jewel like Zarathistra which, however, is not in my Top 10 as well as Le Orme boasts two small masterpieces, such as Collage and Felona and Sorona, but there are many better albums (IMMO)

Perhaps, Balletto di Bronzo and Osanna are the best bands after Banco.

But the albums by The Trip, Claudio Rocchi, Cervello, Pholas Dactylus, Perigeo, Battiato, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Picchio Dal Pozzo, Un Biglirtto per l'Inferno, Metamorfosi, Arti e Mestieri, Goblin, Maxophone must be evaluated well.

This is my opinion,


Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 09 2021 at 18:11
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1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
3. Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il tempo della gioia
4. Locanda delle Fate - Forse le lucciole non si amano più
5. Celeste - Celeste
6. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
7. Alphataurus - Alphataurus
8. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona
9. New Trolls - Concerto grosso: The Seven Seasons
10. Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo 
11. The Watch - Vacuum
12. Cherry Five - Cherry Five
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Am I the only person on PA who enjoys Arti & Mestieri's fine LP "Tilt?"
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That should make a dozen, shouldn't it? Wink

13           Jumbo    Vietato Ai Minori Di 18 Anni?           1973      

13           Picchio Dal Pozzo Picchio Dal Pozzo     1976      

12           Balletto di Bronzo, Il            Ys         1972     

12           Celeste   Celeste (aka Principe Di Un Giorno)         1976      

12           De De Lind            Io Non So Da Dove             1973      

12           Jumbo    DNA           1972      

12           Premiata Forneria Marconi               Storia Di Un Minuto           1972      

12           Quella Vecchia Locanda     Quella Vecchia Locanda   

12           Quella Vecchia Locanda     Il Tempo della Gioia       

11           Area       Arbeit Macht Frei         1973      

11           Area       Crac!              1975      

11           Arti + Mestieri           Ita            1974      

11           Battiato, Franco   Sulle Corde di Aries             1973      

11           Etna        Etna        1975      

11           Flea         Topi O Uomini           1972      

11           Garybaldi               Astrolabio              1973                     

11           Museo Rosenbach               Zarathustra               1973       Symphonic

11           Nova (1) Blink        1975      

11           Osanna   Palepoli         1973      

11           Perigeo  Azimut            1972      

11           Perigeo  Abbiamo Tutti Un Blues Da Piangere            1973      

11           Perigeo  Genealogia           1974          

11           Picchio Dal Pozzo Camere Zimmer Rooms            1978        

11           Semiramis              Dedicato A Frazz  

 

 

 

 

newer stuff

11           Accordo Dei Contrari          Violato Intatto         2017      

11           Al Doum & the Faryds         Al Doum & the Faryds            2011      

11           D.F.A.      Duty Free Area       1999    

11           Deus Ex Machina  Imparis           2008

11           Germinale             e il Suo Respiro Ancora Agita le Onde        1996                      

11           Universal Totem Orchestra               Rituale Alieno       1999      

11           Witchwood           Litanies from the Woods    Ita            2015      



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@Lorenzo: Do you know the Luciano Cilio album? I'd have thought you would like that.
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11           Deus Ex Machina  Imparis           2008


At last, someone else has a Deus Ex Machina album in their list.
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I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up

what vote? This is not a poll. Confused
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up

what vote? This is not a poll. Confused
It's not much of a list either. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up

what vote? This is not a poll. Confused
It's not much of a list either. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's not much of a list either. Tongue

Sorry, to disappoint you with all these great Italian classics. 
Edit:
And I won't use the word you would like to hear. Smile



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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's not much of a list either. Tongue

Sorry, to disappoint you with all these great Italian classics. 
Edit:
And I won't use the word you would like to hear. Smile
No, I meant my own personal list is not much of a list when I can only name two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex, which is really the same band with two different names. Smile
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