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Your favourite 12 Italian Prog albums?

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Topic: Your favourite 12 Italian Prog albums?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: Your favourite 12 Italian Prog albums?
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 07:51
Very much inspired by Paul's German personal top list, I've got this idea for an Italian top 12, and surely best with one album per band to give good possibility for as many bands as possible.
So, beginning with mine in unranked order:

Alphataurus   Alphataurus  (1973)

Area  Crac!  (1975)

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso   Io Sono Nato Libero  (1973) 

De De Lind   Io Non So Da Dove Vengo…  (1972)

Il Balletto di Bronzo   Ys  (1972)

Le Orme   Felona e Sorona  (1973)

Metamorfosi  Inferno  (1973)

Museo Rosenbach   Zarathustra   (1973)

Premiata Forneria Marconi   Per Un Amico  (1972)

Procession   Frontiera   (1972)

Quella Vecchia Locanda    Quella Vecchia Locanda  (1972)

Quella Vecchia Locanda    Il Tempo della Gioia  (1974)

Semiramis   Dedicato a Frazz  (1973)


And hardly avoiding to add:

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso   Darwin!  (1972) 

 



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 07:55
any genre, not just RPI, right? 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 07:57
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

any genre, not just RPI, right? 

However one might want to define Italian Prog.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:04
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

any genre, not just RPI, right? 

However one might want to define Italian Prog.

RPI is its own thing, but I don't know 12 RPI bands. Embarrassed


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:08
^Whatever, I have this idea that you find out of something, Cristi

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:10
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^Whatever, I have this idea that you find out of something, Cristi

I'll post a list a bit later, 1 album per band. Smile


Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:21
Arggg very dificult!! In no order would be:

Celeste - Celeste
Le Orme - Felona e Sonora
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per un Amico
Il Balleto Di Bronzo - Ys
Cervello - Melos
Alphataurus - Alphataurus
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
Metamorfosi - Inferno
Dedalus - Dedalus
Biglietto Per L` Inferno - Biglietto Per L`Inferno
Picchio Dal Pozo - Picchio Dal Pozo






Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:23
One per band

PFM - Per Un Amico
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys
Yugen - Labirinto D'Acqua
Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
Banco - Io Sono Nato Libero
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
Ske - 1000 Autunni
Accordo Dei Contrari - Violato Intatto
Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
DFA - 4th
Breznev Fun Club - Il Misantropo Felice


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:26
Now I know very little about Italian prog, but one band I really like are Deus Ex Machina, particularly the Cinque album.

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=78" rel="nofollow - DEUS EX MACHINA discography and reviews (progarchives.com)


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 08:59
I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:05
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

Hi,

Weird ... how do you listen to spaghetti? Confused


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:25
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

Hi,

Weird ... how do you listen to spaghetti? Confused
The same way as you listen to sauerkraut rock. Wink


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:32
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:33
I can see very much a list of "classics", Progmind.

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:37
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Accordo Dei Contrari - Violato Intatto

I'm fond of Accordo Dei Contrari's Kublai (2011) myself.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:41
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

Hi,

Weird ... how do you listen to spaghetti? Confused
The same way as you listen to sauerkraut rock. Wink

I'm not sure, it's that simple, Paul. I know it's ment as fun, but I surely think it's best to avoid that kind.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:48
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972)
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
Locanda delle Fate- Forse le lucciole non si amano piu (1977)
Cherry Five - Cherry Five (1975)
Goblin - Roller (1976)
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
PFM - Per Un Amico (1972)
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys (1972)
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)
Apoteosi - Apoteosi (1975)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso- Darwin (1972)


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:48
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

clog prog 

What is the meaning of it, Cristi?


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:49
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

clog prog 

What is the meaning of it, Cristi?

ask Paul, why ask me? 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:50
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972)
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
Locanda delle Fate- Forse le lucciole non si amano piu (1977)
Cherry Five - Cherry Five (1975)
Goblin - Roller (1976)
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
PFM - Per Un Amico (1972)
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys (1972)
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)
Apoteosi - Apoteosi (1975)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso- Darwin (1972)

Now, I'm curious about the origin of that list, Cristi.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:52
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972)
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
Locanda delle Fate- Forse le lucciole non si amano piu (1977)
Cherry Five - Cherry Five (1975)
Goblin - Roller (1976)
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
PFM - Per Un Amico (1972)
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys (1972)
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)
Apoteosi - Apoteosi (1975)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso- Darwin (1972)

Now, I'm curious about the origin of that list, Cristi.

there's no origin, it's the little I know and have listened. 
Happy to have come up with 70s bands only. Tongue


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:52
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

clog prog 
What is the meaning of it, Cristi?
ask Paul, why ask me? 

Do you think it's quite randomly that I ask you and not Paul?


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:53
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

clog prog 
What is the meaning of it, Cristi?
ask Paul, why ask me? 

Do you think it's quite randomly that I ask you and not Paul?

Paul is the inventor of the term, I hope he can provide a logical explanation. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:54
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed


Hi,

Weird ... how do you listen to spaghetti? Confused


Poor taste perhaps, or maybe just al dente, but since I thought of this response...

If you can get pasta certain language barrier, then the linguiniistics shouldn't be too much of an impediment to both listen to and understand the spaghetti.

Shall we call English Prog "bangers and mash" Prog?

I'd love to include Ennio Morricone and Egisto Macchi for my list, but will stick with ones in PA.

Franco Leprino - Integrati ... Disintegrati
Franco Battiato - Sulle corde di Aries
Area - Caution Radiation Area
Dedalus - Dedalus
Fabio Frizzi - L'aldila
Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo
Goblin - Profondo rosso
Sensation's Fix - Portable Madness
Perigeo - Genealogia
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Osanna - Palepoli


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:55
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

there's no origin, it's the little I know and have listened
Happy to have come up with 70s bands only. Tongue

You're quite a bugger. Smile


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:56
Forgot about Arti & Mestieri, great band, I've listened to three of their albums recently. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:56
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:58
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 09:58
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Paul is the inventor of the term, I hope he can provide a logical explanation. 

Okay, and the word itself tells you, it's insulting.


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:00
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's just a matter of semantics. Smile


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:02
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's just a matter of semantics. Smile

Casual racism.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:02
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Paul is the inventor of the term, I hope he can provide a logical explanation. 


Okay, and the word itself tells you, it's insulting.


Less insulting than calling someone a bugger potentially.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:03
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Paul is the inventor of the term, I hope he can provide a logical explanation. 


Okay, and the word itself tells you, it's insulting.


Less insulting than calling someone a bugger potentially.

Yes, I thought so too. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:06
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's just a matter of semantics. Smile

it's a matter of being respectful, having common sense, being kind, more than semantics. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:11
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

Spaghetti Western and Krautrock are today accepted names, ethically speaking, with no negative connotations.


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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:16
 Yes David!, a lot of classics albums, only 12 albums it´s a nightmare for me, because i listen RPI frequently

modern classics for me since 1988

Ske - 10.000 autunni
Yugen - Labirinto d´Acqua
Men Of Lake - Men Of Lake
The Night Watch - Twilight
Eris Pluvia - Rings Of Earthtly Light
Accordo Dei Contrari - Violatto Inttato
Homunculus Res - Limitti All´eguaglianza Della Parte con IllTutto
Asgard - Arkana
The Winstons - The Winstons
Breznev Fun Club - L`onda Vertebrata
Ezra Winston - Myth Of Chrysavides
The Watcht - Vacuum


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:20
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Less insulting than calling someone a bugger potentially.

Okay, if there's still some negative connotations in this word, then, Cristi and potentially others, sorry for my lacking knowledge of English. 


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:37
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's more often the case that I'm usually the one who gets mocked here (not unfairly, it has to be said)  for my somewhat eccentric tastes in music. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 10:38
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's more often the case that I'm usually the one who gets mocked here (not unfairly, it has to be said)  for my somewhat eccentric tastes in music. Tongue

don't change the subject, not in this context... 


Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 11:16
I'll also do only one album per artist, otherwise there'll just be a bunch of Area albums all at the top:

1. Area - Caution Radiation Area
2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
3. Homunculus Res - Limiti All'Eguaglianza Della Parte Con Il Tutto
4. Yugen - Iridule
5. Arti & Mestieri - Giro Di Valzer Per Domani
6. Picchio Dal Pozzo - Picchio Dal Pozzo
7. Dedalus - Dedalus
8. Maxophone - Maxophone
9. D.F.A. - Lavori In Corso
10. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
11. Breznev Fun Club - Il Misantropo Felice
12. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra

NichelOdeon's latest album might make it into this list too from what I've heard, but I need to listen to it more attentively before my mind is fully made up on it.

Also, as someone from "clog prog"'s country of origin I can say I do not feel the slightest bit offended by the term and I doubt any other Dutch person would be; even if it weren't used in good fun it's too silly to be upset over, although I certainly don't wish to discourage anyone who disagrees, or any German or Italian users who find the other two terms used to be inappopriate, from speaking up if they do.


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 11:20
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972)
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
Locanda delle Fate- Forse le lucciole non si amano piu (1977)
Cherry Five - Cherry Five (1975)
Goblin - Roller (1976)
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">PFM - Per Un Amico (1972)</span><div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys (1972)
<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Apoteosi - Apoteosi (1975)<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso- Darwin (1972)
Haven't heard Apoteosi, but this.

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:00
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's more often the case that I'm usually the one who gets mocked here (not unfairly, it has to be said)  for my somewhat eccentric tastes in music. Tongue

don't change the subject, not in this context... 

Come on, guys, I think everybody has made his point in this discussion, no reason to keep on.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:10
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's more often the case that I'm usually the one who gets mocked here (not unfairly, it has to be said)  for my somewhat eccentric tastes in music. Tongue

don't change the subject, not in this context... 

Come on, guys, I think everybody has made his point in this discussion, no reason to keep on.

so what was Paul's point? Throw some mockery and see if he can get away with it? Well, he's won then. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:19
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'm not very familiar with spaghetti prog, so I'll have to pass on this one, but it's good to know I inadvertently provided the inspiration for David's list. I've still got my hands full at the moment with my Krautrock and Dutch clog prog blogs, so it could be awhile before I dip my toes into Italian prog too. Addio per ora. Embarrassed

spaghetti prog, clog prog, that's insulting if you ask me. Disapprove
It's no more insulting than a spaghetti western or Krautrock. Smile

that is no excuse though to come up with new mocking terms... 
It's more often the case that I'm usually the one who gets mocked here (not unfairly, it has to be said)  for my somewhat eccentric tastes in music. Tongue

don't change the subject, not in this context... 

Come on, guys, I think everybody has made his point in this discussion, no reason to keep on.

so what was Paul's point? Throw some mockery and see if he can get away with it? Well, he's won then. 

Come on, that's a bit negative interpretation, isn't it?


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:25
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


so what was Paul's point? Throw some mockery and see if he can get away with it? Well, he's won then. 

Come on, that's a bit negative interpretation, isn't it?

so I am negative? for real? Shocked
So I am the only one bothered by this mockery. 
Ok then. Ouch


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:46
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


so what was Paul's point? Throw some mockery and see if he can get away with it? Well, he's won then. 

Come on, that's a bit negative interpretation, isn't it?

so I am negative? for real? Shocked
So I am the only one bothered by this mockery. 
Ok then. Ouch

No you're not, he always feigns innocence and a lack of understanding, it's BS.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:55
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

so I am negative? for real? Shocked
So I am the only one bothered by this mockery. 
Ok then. Ouch

Noo, you're noot, Cristi, soorry


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:57
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

No you're not, he always feigns innocence and a lack of understanding, it's BS.

What's BS, by the way?


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 12:59
1. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per un amico
3. Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il tempo della gioia
4. La Bocca della Verità - Avenoth
5. Conqueror - Storie fuori dal tempo
6. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
7. Metamorfosi - Inferno
8. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
9. Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
10. D.F.A. - Kaleidoscope
11. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys
12. Apoteosi - Apoteosi

Honorable mentions:
Alphataurus - AttosecondO
Logos - Sadako e le mille gru di carta
Runaway Totem - Andromeda
La Coscienza di Zeno - La Coscienza di Zeno
Celeste - Il principe del regno perduto
Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo tutti i suoi problemi
Osanna - Palepoli
Locanda delle Fate - Forse le lucciole non si amano più
Cherry Five - Cherry Five
Il Rovescio della Medaglia - Contaminazione
Ske - 1000 Autunni
Tale Cue - Voices Beyond My Curtain
Stereokimono - Prismosfera
Premiata Forneria Marconi - L'isola di niente
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io sono nato libero
Conqueror - In orbita
Logos - L'enigma della vita
The Watch - Ghost
Il Paradiso degli Orchi - Samir
Distillerie di Malto - Suono!
Quel Che Disse il Tuono - Il velo dei riflessi
Alex Carpani - 4 Destinies


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:01
Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

 
modern classics for me since 1988
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Accordo Dei Contrari - Violatto Inttato
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So, Accordo dei Contrari is a quite well known band?


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:12
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


so what was Paul's point? Throw some mockery and see if he can get away with it? Well, he's won then. 

Come on, that's a bit negative interpretation, isn't it?

so I am negative? for real? Shocked
So I am the only one bothered by this mockery. 
Ok then. Ouch

I'm bothered by it too. 


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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:19
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

 
modern classics for me since 1988
......
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Accordo Dei Contrari - Violatto Inttato
....-

So, Accordo dei Contrari is a quite well known band?

I was lucky to travel to Italy 5 times between 2013 - 2019, visiting a record store in Rome with my cousins (i think it was Laziale) i found a lot of material of classic and modern RPI.

My cousins are fans of progresive rock, and specially of the material released by AltRock records and Mellow records, my first encounter with Accordo dei contrari was with the album AdC


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:26
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

No you're not, he always feigns innocence and a lack of understanding, it's BS.

What's BS, by the way?

Bullsh*t


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:41
Also tried to do 12 different artists. Otherwise probably Battiato, Banco, Area would have some more.

Luciano Cilio - Dialoghi del Presente
Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Banco - Darwin!
Area - Caution Radiation Area
Picchio dal Pozzo - s/t
Dedalus - s/t
Patrizio Fariselli - 100 Ghosts
Le Orme - Fellona e Sonora
Deus Ex Machina - De Republica
The Winstons - Smith
PFM - L'Isola di Niente
Angelo Branduardi - Concerto


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:48
Allright, progaardvark, now it certainly looks much more likely we have some common taste as those albums of your top 12 I'm very fond of myself:
1. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per un amico
3. Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il tempo della gioia
6. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
7. Metamorfosi - Inferno
9. Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
11. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys



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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 13:53
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Allright, progaardvark, now it certainly looks much more likely we have some common taste as those albums of your top 12 I'm very fond of myself:
1. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per un amico
3. Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il tempo della gioia
6. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
7. Metamorfosi - Inferno
9. Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
11. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys


There's much to like from the Italian prog scene. It's still a vibrant place for prog rock today. As you can see, I mixed it up with some more modern acts from the last 20 years or so. I always look forward to hearing new releases that come from there. 


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 14:01
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

No you're not, he always feigns innocence and a lack of understanding, it's BS.

What's BS, by the way?

Bullsh*t

It maybe might look like by purpose, but I guess you know it's not. 
I find your remark very funny and very good and creative response to Cristi's humor - and, as you surely could see, it helped me in relation to mine.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 14:09
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

There's much to like from the Italian prog scene. It's still a vibrant place for prog rock today. As you can see, I mixed it up with some more modern acts from the last 20 years or so. I always look forward to hearing new releases that come from there. 

It's good to hear that opinion, but I must say, it has been difficult for me to find something post-70's I like - though not impossible.
But then, I can say, it has been even more difficult for me regarding German post-70's albums.


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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 14:34
I wonder which other country polls we'll see. Making a top 12 of French and Japanese prog albums should be a piece of cake; I could probably still hold my own making a list of Canadian, Swedish, Belgian and maybe Norwegian albums; after that it gets tricky.


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 14:41
Originally posted by Mirakaze Mirakaze wrote:

I wonder which other country polls we'll see. Making a top 12 of French and Japanese prog albums should be a piece of cake; I could probably still hold my own making a list of Canadian, Swedish, Belgian and maybe Norwegian albums; after that it gets tricky.

Actually, I've planned a French one in a couple of days while a Japanese one was done not so long ago. I've seen it in "Top 10s and lists".
And it sounds fine with your plans, I'll remember that.
Edit:
I could be tempted to make (maybe a smaller) Polish one as well.


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 15:28
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

No you're not, he always feigns innocence and a lack of understanding, it's BS.


What's BS, by the way?


Bullsh*t


It maybe might look like by purpose, but I guess you know it's not. 
I find your remark very funny and very good and creative response to Cristi's humor - and, as you surely could see, it helped me in relation to mine.


I was referring to Psycho Paul.

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 15:38
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

 
I was referring to Psycho Paul.

Okay, sorry, I misunderstood that because I was quoted and Cristi was answering my remark.


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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 16:30

I'll just rank the ones I own:

1. PFM - Per Un Amico
2. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona
3. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
4. Le Orme - Florian
5. Osanna - Palepoli
6. Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
7. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
8. PFM - L'Isola Di Niente
9. Unreal City - La Crudeltà Di Aprile
10. Alphataurus - Alphataurus
11. PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto
12. Maxophone - Maxophone

13. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
14. RDM - Contamination (unfortunately I only have the English version, fortunately it's still awesome)
15. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
16. Celeste - Celeste
17. Le Orme - Contrapunti
18. PFM - Cook
19. PFM - Chocolate Kings
20. Buon Vecchio Charlie - Buon Vecchio Charlie
21. PFM - Stati Di Imaginazione
22. Acque Fragile - Mass Media Stars






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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 18:01

1. IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO  Ys   (1972)  (The best; the gold standard; the most powerful and unique Italian release of the 1970s.)

2. PICCHIO DAL POZZO   Picchio dal Pozzo  (1976) * (I consider Picchio Dal Pozzo a Canterbury band, not an RPI band.)

3. PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI   Per Un Amico   (1972) (So compositionally rich with near-perfect contributions from each and every band member throughout.) 

4. AREA  Crac!  (1975) * (I consider Area a Jazz-Rock Fusion band, not an RPI band--and this to be the best J-R Fusion album of all-time.) 

5. CERVELLO  Melos   (1973) (Incredibly adventurous/creative compositions! And Corrado Rustici was only 17 years old!)

6. AREA  Arbeit Macht Frei   (1973)  (If we're insistent upon considering Area an RPI band, we simply cannot discount this landmark album.)

7. ARTI E MESTIERI  Tilt   (1974) (I would also argue that this band/album is miscategorized: it should be considered a Jazz-Rock Fusion album.)

8. MAXOPHONE  Maxophone   (1975) 

9. IL ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA  Contaminazione   (1973) (The perfect exhibition of one of the main goals of the early progressive rock movement: to blend classical instrumentation and composition with rock attributes.)  

10. FRANCO BATTIATO  Sulle corde di Aries   (1973)  

11. IL PAESE DEI BALOCCHI  Il Paese dei Balocchi   (1972)

12. ROCKY's FILJ  Storie di uomini e non   (1973)
 
Near Misses:

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso  Io Sono Nato Libero  (1973) 

Premiata Forneria Marconi  L'isola di niente (1974)
Alphataurus  Alphataurus  (1973)

Celeste  Principe di un giorno  (1976)  

Goblin  Roller   (1976)

Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Banco del mutuo soccorso (1972)

Locanda Delle Fate Forse le lucciole non si amano più (1977)

Quella Vecchia Locanda         Il Tempo della Gioia         (1974)

Metamorfosi  Inferno   (1973)

Procession    Frontiera   (1972)

New Trolls Concerto Grosso per i New Trolls (1971)


** I would have included some 21st Century album releases if I thought any were as important and/or good as these.



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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 18:02
I have not yet compiled a list of my Italian prog ranking.

For now I can only say this:

I don't think there is a better album than Area's Arbeit Macht Frei.

I consider it an absolute masterpiece of contemporary music, and it is not an album belonging to the tradition of Italian prog (melodic, symphonic), it belongs to jazz-rock and the avant-garde.

Area have produced another true masterpiece, Maledetti (in addition to Caution Area and Crac, remarkable albums but in my opinion not great masterpieces).

Area therefore is candidate for the best Italian prog group.

After them I think there are Stormy Six who, with the albums L'Apprendista and Macchina Maccheronica, have produced two RIO masterpieces. Neither, however, touches the top of Arbeit Macht Frei.

In third position I think there is Banco, with two masterpieces, the debut album and Darwin - and another great Lp Nato Libero.

PFM, in my opinion an overrated group, boasts only a true masterpiece, Storia di un Minuto. For a friend it doesn't seem like a real masterpiece.

Rosenbach Museum boasts a jewel like Zarathistra which, however, is not in my Top 10 as well as Le Orme boasts two small masterpieces, such as Collage and Felona and Sorona, but there are many better albums (IMMO)

Perhaps, Balletto di Bronzo and Osanna are the best bands after Banco.

But the albums by The Trip, Claudio Rocchi, Cervello, Pholas Dactylus, Perigeo, Battiato, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Picchio Dal Pozzo, Un Biglirtto per l'Inferno, Metamorfosi, Arti e Mestieri, Goblin, Maxophone must be evaluated well.

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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 22:26
1. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
2. Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
3. Quella Vecchia Locanda - Il tempo della gioia
4. Locanda delle Fate - Forse le lucciole non si amano più
5. Celeste - Celeste
6. Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
7. Alphataurus - Alphataurus
8. Le Orme - Felona E Sorona
9. New Trolls - Concerto grosso: The Seven Seasons
10. Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo 
11. The Watch - Vacuum
12. Cherry Five - Cherry Five


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 09 2021 at 23:59
regretted

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 00:02
Am I the only person on PA who enjoys Arti & Mestieri's fine LP "Tilt?"

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 02:34

That should make a dozen, shouldn't it? Wink

13           Jumbo    Vietato Ai Minori Di 18 Anni?           1973      

13           Picchio Dal Pozzo Picchio Dal Pozzo     1976      

12           Balletto di Bronzo, Il            Ys         1972     

12           Celeste   Celeste (aka Principe Di Un Giorno)         1976      

12           De De Lind            Io Non So Da Dove             1973      

12           Jumbo    DNA           1972      

12           Premiata Forneria Marconi               Storia Di Un Minuto           1972      

12           Quella Vecchia Locanda     Quella Vecchia Locanda   

12           Quella Vecchia Locanda     Il Tempo della Gioia       

11           Area       Arbeit Macht Frei         1973      

11           Area       Crac!              1975      

11           Arti + Mestieri           Ita            1974      

11           Battiato, Franco   Sulle Corde di Aries             1973      

11           Etna        Etna        1975      

11           Flea         Topi O Uomini           1972      

11           Garybaldi               Astrolabio              1973                     

11           Museo Rosenbach               Zarathustra               1973       Symphonic

11           Nova (1) Blink        1975      

11           Osanna   Palepoli         1973      

11           Perigeo  Azimut            1972      

11           Perigeo  Abbiamo Tutti Un Blues Da Piangere            1973      

11           Perigeo  Genealogia           1974          

11           Picchio Dal Pozzo Camere Zimmer Rooms            1978        

11           Semiramis              Dedicato A Frazz  

 

 

 

 

newer stuff

11           Accordo Dei Contrari          Violato Intatto         2017      

11           Al Doum & the Faryds         Al Doum & the Faryds            2011      

11           D.F.A.      Duty Free Area       1999    

11           Deus Ex Machina  Imparis           2008

11           Germinale             e il Suo Respiro Ancora Agita le Onde        1996                      

11           Universal Totem Orchestra               Rituale Alieno       1999      

11           Witchwood           Litanies from the Woods    Ita            2015      



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 03:10
@Lorenzo: Do you know the Luciano Cilio album? I'd have thought you would like that.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 03:24
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

11           Deus Ex Machina  Imparis           2008


At last, someone else has a Deus Ex Machina album in their list.



Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 03:34
Apoteosi thanks. Amazingly good

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 03:34
I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 03:54
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up

what vote? This is not a poll. Confused


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 04:10
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up

what vote? This is not a poll. Confused
It's not much of a list either. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 04:19
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I'll put a belated lame vote in for my two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex. Thumbs Up

what vote? This is not a poll. Confused
It's not much of a list either. Tongue



Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 04:59
Can we have a thread without you two having an argument/discussion in it?


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:15
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's not much of a list either. Tongue

Sorry, to disappoint you with all these great Italian classics. 
Edit:
And I won't use the word you would like to hear. Smile



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:19
^Is that a picture of you, Cristi?

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:23
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

It's not much of a list either. Tongue

Sorry, to disappoint you with all these great Italian classics. 
Edit:
And I won't use the word you would like to hear. Smile
No, I meant my own personal list is not much of a list when I can only name two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex, which is really the same band with two different names. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:23
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Can we have a thread without you two having an argument/discussion in it?

So it's my fault again? ConfusedOuch
 

can we have a thread where Paul does not post even when he's ignorant on the topic? 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:26
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

No, I meant my own personal list is not much of a list when I can only name two favourite Italian bands: Jacula and Antonius Rex, which is really the same band with two different names. Smile

Sorry, I thought you were funny. 
Edit:
But you were funny.
And maybe I've got to be more carefull with my misunderstanding.


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:29
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Can we have a thread without you two having an argument/discussion in it?

So it's my fault again? ConfusedOuch
 

can we have a thread where Paul does not post even when he's ignorant on the topic? 
Although admittedly, I'm not very familiar with Italian prog, I'm looking forward to David's Japanese prog poll, as that's something I DO know a little about. Sayonara. Smile


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:31
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Although admittedly, I'm not very familiar with Italian prog, I'm looking forward to David's Japanese prog poll, as that's something I DO know a little about. Sayonara. Smile

Where did you get that idea?


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:33
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^Is that a picture of you, Cristi?

it's Chris Tucker, quite famous actor. 


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:35
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^Is that a picture of you, Cristi?

it's Chris Tucker, quite famous actor. 

Not that famous.
But I'll check him in Wikipedia.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:38
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^Is that a picture of you, Cristi?

it's Chris Tucker, quite famous actor. 

Not that famous.

ok then, not that famous if you say so. 
You really thought I posted gifs of myself giving angry looks and facepalms to other users? LOL


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:38
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

^Is that a picture of you, Cristi?

it's Chris Tucker, quite famous actor. 

Not that famous.
But I'll check him in Wikipedia.
I didn't know who it was either. Embarrassed


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:48
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

ok then, not that famous if you say so. 

I mean beyond my cultural scope - I can be funny, as well.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 05:56
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Can we have a thread without you two having an argument/discussion in it?

So it's my fault again? ConfusedOuch
 

can we have a thread where Paul does not post even when he's ignorant on the topic? 
I didn't say it was your fault, it's just that every thread I look at these days seems to have you two bickering about something. LOL 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 06:01
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

clog prog 

What is the meaning of it, Cristi?

ask Paul, why ask me? 
I don't want to clog up this thread by going off-topic with irrelevant posts - although it's probably too late for that already - but seeing as you asked, here's a charming Dutch clog dance for you. Smile



Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 08:03
1. Museo Rosenbach Zarathustra
2. Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Darwin!
3. PFM Per Un Amico
4. Le Orme Felona e Sorona
5. Quella Vecchia Locanda Il Tempo Della Gioia
6. Maxophone s/t
7. Panna Fredda Uno
8. Osanna Palepoli
9. Locanda Della Fate Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu
10. Blacco Mentale POA  
11. Semiramis Dedicato a Frazz
12. Logos Sadako e le Mille Gru di Carta




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Posted By: emisan
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 10:26
Just a few masterpieces from modern RPI:

Nuova Era - Il Passo del Soldato
Il Bacio Della Medusa - Discesa Agl'Inferi D'Un Giovane Amante
Ingranaggi Della Valle - In Hoc Signo
La Maschera Di Cera - La Maschera Di Cera
Logos - L' Enigma Della Vita
Unreal City - La Crudeltà di Aprile
La Maschera Di Cera - Le Porte Del Domani
MOOGG - Le Ore i Giorni gli Anni
Homunculus Res - Limiti all'Eguaglianza della Parte con il Tutto
Il Tempio Delle Clessidre - Il Tempio Delle Clessidre
Logos - Sadako e le mille gru di carta
Unreal City - Il Paese del Tramonto
Randone - Hybla Act 1
La Torre Dell'Alchimista - La Torre Dell'Alchimista
Nuova Era - Io E Il Tempo
Il Castello Di Atlante - Cap. 7 - Tra Le Antiche Mura
Nodo Gordiano - Nous
Syndone - La Bella è la Bestia


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 12:19
Originally posted by emisan emisan wrote:

Just a few masterpieces from modern RPI:

Nuova Era - Il Passo del Soldato
Il Bacio Della Medusa - Discesa Agl'Inferi D'Un Giovane Amante
Ingranaggi Della Valle - In Hoc Signo
La Maschera Di Cera - La Maschera Di Cera
Logos - L' Enigma Della Vita
Unreal City - La Crudeltà di Aprile
La Maschera Di Cera - Le Porte Del Domani
MOOGG - Le Ore i Giorni gli Anni
Homunculus Res - Limiti all'Eguaglianza della Parte con il Tutto
Il Tempio Delle Clessidre - Il Tempio Delle Clessidre
Logos - Sadako e le mille gru di carta
Unreal City - Il Paese del Tramonto
Randone - Hybla Act 1
La Torre Dell'Alchimista - La Torre Dell'Alchimista
Nuova Era - Io E Il Tempo
Il Castello Di Atlante - Cap. 7 - Tra Le Antiche Mura
Nodo Gordiano - Nous
Syndone - La Bella è la Bestia

Awesome list--and I agree with 90% of your items--but, somehow, it feels like an entirely different world/entirely different topic!



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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 20:09
I don't think I can go up to 12 albums, but my first choice would have to be Inferno, by Metamorfosi, which seems to be sadly overlooked on this thread. Other albums I love are Darwin from Banco and Felona e Sorona from Le Orme. And some others that I do like a lot, and with some songs among my very favorite, but that have songs that I don't really remember much, like YS from Il Balleto di Bronzo and Zarathustra from Museo Rosenbach. Oh yeah, and I usually forget them for not being among the 70's classics, but Unreal City and Logos did some great albums recently.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 10 2021 at 23:57
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

my first choice would have to be Inferno, by Metamorfosi, which seems to be sadly overlooked on this thread. .

I find it a great concept album myself, and at least it's a part of my opening list.


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 11 2021 at 16:43
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

@Lorenzo: Do you know the Luciano Cilio album? I'd have thought you would like that.

Never listen to it.

Thanks for the advice.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 12 2021 at 01:12
PFM - Per Un Amico
Le Orme - Felona E Serona
Ys- Il Balletto Di Bronzo
Logos - Sadako e le mille di carta
Quella Vecchia Locanda - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu
Ingranaggi - Warm Spaced Blue
Cherry Five - Cherry Five
Three Monks - The Legend of The Holy Circle
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Transiberiana
Randone - Ultreia (Canzoni Sulla Via- Atto 1)
Triade - 1998 - La Storia Di Sabazio
La Maschera Di Cera - S.E.I



Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 12 2021 at 06:14
Hi,

Again, I don't do albums, and I think I have not heard enough of the things listed. I'll make a decent effort to catch up!

Banco del Mutuo Soccorso  
Le Orme   
Premiata Forneria Marconi  
Biglietto/Baffo Banfi
Franco Battiato
Goblin
Sensation's Fix
Osanna

The saddest bit for me, was the mention of OSANNA in one other post. One of the bands that helped define this genre, and the band that PG copied when his group toured Italy with them, and they are still around, although (have to check) not quite as complete as they were then, or as theatrical.

Their doing this, also helped ANGE do their thing, although theirs is more centered on Brecht and Brel in the early days, but both DEcamps never lost their theatricality in their music. I'm not sure about OSANNA's versions, as I am not as familiar with Italian Literature and the arts, other than a whole bunch of operas ... gads ... we should do a poll on that!


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 12 2021 at 10:21
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Quella Vecchia Locanda - Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972)
Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz (1973)
Locanda delle Fate- Forse le lucciole non si amano piu (1977)
Cherry Five - Cherry Five (1975)
Goblin - Roller (1976)
Le Orme - Felona E Sorona (1973)
Corte dei Miracoli - Corte Dei Miracoli (1976)
<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">PFM - Per Un Amico (1972)</span><div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys (1972)
<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (1973)<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Apoteosi - Apoteosi (1975)<div style=": rgb248, 248, 252;">Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso- Darwin (1972)
Haven't heard Apoteosi, but this.
Foolishly forgot about Maxophone and RDM's Contamination.

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