Who do you feel should get a 'Prog Nod'?
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Topic: Who do you feel should get a 'Prog Nod'?
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: Who do you feel should get a 'Prog Nod'?
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 15:27
| We listen to many artists and albums that are not Prog, or in the case of one artist I know, would feel uncomfortable if his music was categorized as Prog even though he's made several clever concept albums. Are there any artists that you know whose work is along Prog lines but is not normally what is put out by the artist and you feel that they deserve what I call a 'Prog Nod' to in order to show appreciation for there talent or work? |
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 16:20
Not Muse.  Jay Munly Angels of Light Flaming Lips ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 17:40
Ry Cooder: Chevaz Ravine. After an eighteen year hiatus, the venerated slide guitarist and world music producer returned to the recording studio in 2003 and created this concept album about the real life events of the south California town of Chevaz Revine and the removal of it's Mexican American citizens in order to build Dodger Stadium after the town was leveled. The songs are mostly sung in spanish with english translations in the CD's liner notes. Cooder even incorporates a local legend of a UFO visitation to the town's citizens warning them of their impending doom and offering to take them all back to a sacred mountain in Mexico. This is one of the best concept albums that I've encountered outside of the prog realm and Cooder truly deserves a Prog Nod for it. 
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 17:46
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Godflesh and co. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 18:58
| My "prog nod" goes to The Durutti Column. A few other people I know would give it to Joanna Newsom. |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 19:23
I don't like how that sounds: like being prog means you're ahead of other genres. Anyway I have a counter example: Swans. I absolutely f**king love them but see no reason for including them here. Yes, their later work is post-rock, but still. -------------  |
SteveG wrote:Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 18 2014 at 09:34
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 03:33
| My 'pet' suggestion is always Al Stewart. He worked closely with Alan Parsons for a short while and even his most famous hit Year Of The Cat always struck me as having a strong prog feel. That guitar solo is one of the most memorable. However his real prog credentials shone through on Past ,Present and Future which is probably as close to 'prog folk' as you can get without being there. Roads To Moscow and Nostradamus are the two big ones with both tracks forming a big part of the live show he did in the late seventies and early eighties. Concept album? Perhaps with Russians and Americans( check out the great Emersonesque keys on Rumours Of War) and also Last Days Of The Century which is my favourite album by Al. Lots of prog goodies on that especially Fields Of France and Helen and Cassandra to name just two. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 04:12
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I think I get the 'gist' of this thread. For me it's mostly modern acts that instantly spring to mind. Stuff like Animal Collective, F*ck Buttons, Boris, Sun O))), FSOL (maybe not that "modern"), Scott Walker and Burial - those are all someone who I personally believe have carried on the very spirit behind prog rock. The music has changed but it still aims for notions of grandeur reached through some form of sonic experimentation and ideas of pushing the music as far as could ever go. The aforementioned acts just resemble what todays progressive music minded folks go for. Imagining how some of the matured folks on this very board looked and generally thought about music back in the day, I think it's fair to say that you could interchange em with the peeps I grew up with, and nobody would be able to spot the difference. Perfect match. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 04:28
| Prog-Nod to Muse |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 04:45
| Slightly deviating from the topic...but wud like to see Iron Maiden get placed in ProgMetal category. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:53
Maiden are one of those bands like Queen and Steely Dan who almost occupy their own category.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:54
Absolut(ion)ely  |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 02:14
There is a place where Prog fans get to extend their favourite non Prog bands the so-called Prog Nod: it was intended to be Prog Related but lord knows what it has come to resembles now? There are those in Prog Related probably more deserving of a 'Glasgow kiss' than a Prog Nod ------------- 
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 02:41
| Perhaps not the artist as a whole, but in terms of particular albums Lou Reed's Rock'n'Roll Animal and Berlin are excellent and with enough complexity. Jackson Browne's Running On Empty is pretty decent too. Dave Matthew's Band have some pretty good stuff too. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 02:46
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Scott Walker
Elbow Future Sound of London Pete Namlook ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 02:51
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 06:53
| The Police also come to mind, with Synchronicity being a very good album, and Extreme's album Three Sides To Every Story also pops up sometimes in these discussions, besides the clearly Prog-oriented 20 min title suite, the rock songs often have interesting chords and arrangements as well, with more than one nod to Queen. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 07:06
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Funkadelic ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 07:52
 Sorry Andy, don't know the other two.
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: July 25 2014 at 04:06
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2805" rel="nofollow - He's already here ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 25 2014 at 09:12
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A 'prog nod'........hmmm, probably many bands that could receive that.
Two that come to mind are The Flaming Lips, certainly psych prog at times, and XTC have many of those elements that the Beatles embodied and are probably more 'prog' in their later albums than the Beatles were. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 16:47
| Blue Oyster Cult's 1988 album Imaginos deserves a nod due to it's extreme over dubbing of guitars, epic playing and epic songs with titles like The Siege And Investiture Of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle In Wesseria . No kidding. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 19:20
| I'll also give a shout out to Dire Straits for the album Love Over Gold. Some sublime prog like moments on this lush album, especially the title track which is beautiful. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 19:46
I agree with that one, Steve. From the "classic rock" era, I would say both "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" and "John Barleycorn Must Die" from Traffic. From a more modern perspective, "The Hazards of Love" from The Decemberists. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 19:51
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I'm confused - both those bands are listed here? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 20:05
You are confused, perhaps, and I am lazy. Either that or I am a procrastinating prognosticator. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 20:06
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wat ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 21:24
Simple, I knew precisely that both bands should be listed, even though they were already listed and I was too lazy to look it up. Amazingly foresighted...in hindsight. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 29 2014 at 21:49
    ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 19:00
| Mountian: The Road Goes Ever On a 1971 live album featuring a 20 minute side long take of Nantucket Sleighride. the band was firing on all 8 cylinders and Felix was pumping his fuzzed Hofner bass for all it was worth. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 01:22
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^ I was lucky enough to see Mountain in my home town about 6 years ago. I believe Leslie has been through the wars a bit since having a leg amputated or something drastic like that. Thanks for the recommendation. Always rated Felix as a more than decent bass player and that track is about as prog as it gets. Completely irrelevant piece of information- Nantucket Sleighride used to be the signature music for a political debate British TV programme from the eighties called Weekend World . It was hosted by a chap called Brian Walden. I knew his son (Phil) through playing chess for an Oxford league team.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 09:18
 btw...saw them in Chicago in 1972.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 06:05
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Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 06:12
| Cky on their last album Carver City; particularly tracks such as "Plagued by Images", "Rats in The Infirmary", and "Hellions on Parade". So many progressive riffs and grooves going on, with guitar moogs weaving all over the place. Simple rock song structure decorated and expanded upon with plenty of prog elements! |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 16 2014 at 18:15
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KEITH EMERSON ! -------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 16 2014 at 18:17
Thanks for suggesting this fantastic rock masterpiece! ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 16 2014 at 18:24
And I would say that also particularly to Mark Knopfler, this brilliant guitarist was especially inspired in the "Alchemy" show (1984), I would say one of its climax was the amazing performance at the final part of the track "Tunnel Of Love" - a damn good solo started pretty emotionaly slowly and continued in a "crescendo" way that is a perfect delight!
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:45
| Ultravox: Vienna. Just the title track alone still gives me chills. |
Posted By: Archeus
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 14:58
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Three artists that spring to mind right now: The Beach Boys Lou Reed Arcade Fire ------------- What about dogs? What about cats? What about chickens? |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 15:04
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John Foxx, Ultravox, Magazine. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 15:10
| Midlake's latest is a prog rock record IMO. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 15:19
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I'd give NoMeansNo a prog nod. When people ask about bands who combine punk with prog, they're the first band I think of. They're pretty amazing.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 15:20
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 15:48
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The Fiery Furnaces ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 22:53
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 22:54
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Killing Joke
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 23:06
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One of the finest bass players ever MICK KARN. Karn/Jansen/Barbieri/Travis/ Steve WILSON http://youtu.be/zNhMm5P_UmA incredible ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: September 04 2014 at 18:31
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I'm really surprised The Orb has not been added already. 1. Their music is very much in debt to Pink Floyd (lots of trippy Dark Side sounds) 2. Early records feature songs with prog-like structures reaching anywhere between 8 to 20 minutes (the original "Blue Room" is a 40 minute masterpiece) 3. Recorded an album with David Gilmour (Metallic Spheres) 4. FFWD is already accepted in ProgArchives, a band that included The Orb's Kris Weston and Alex Paterson |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 03:01
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Seeing the late great bassist Glenn Cornick from Tull has passed away this week; I'll put forward his band Wild Turkey.......their first album Battle Hymn to me is as prog as anything Uriah Heep ever did and only 100 times better. Wild Turkey also had the late Gary Pickford-Hopkins on lead vocals who also happened to be the vocalist on Rick Wakeman's Journey To The Centre of The Earth. Would someone please get these guys on PA...I'm too lazy!
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 08:18
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 08:27
I fully agree that Dire Straits is worth a prog nod because of this album. Another one I'd like to give to Alice Cooper, a non-prog artist who created a prog masterpiece (Halo of Flies) and some other songs with a proggy touch. Ths third one is for the Velvet Underground, imho the inventors of Art Rock. I don't want to reopen the discussion about their inclusion, but I must mention them here. ------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 08:44
I assumed they weren't...doh!   |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 08:46
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 12 2014 at 15:48
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Elbow The Tubes XTC The Who Led Zeppelin REM (some of it especially the "out of time" album) U2 ditto above Todd Rundgren Moody Blues |
Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: October 02 2014 at 23:27
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Clannad. Their move away from their trad Celtic roots in the 80s gave way to a sound that definitely gave a nod to 70s prog.
Mel Collins contributed some tasty soprano sax work on several of their albums, like on In a Lifetime, their collaboration with Bono. A short instrumental on their album “Anam”, Wilderness, just about floored me when I first heard it. Are chord changes like that even legal? was my first thought.  ------------- Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously. Silly human race! Yes is for everybody! |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 02 2014 at 23:35
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Ozzy and Randy for Diary of a Madman
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 05 2014 at 15:10
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Los Lobos: Kilko Live. Expanded live versions of the unusual and sometimes fantastic songs from the Kiko studio album. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: October 08 2014 at 21:50
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Joni Mitchell, especially during her undeniably more progressive period in the 1970s, from Court and Spark on through Mingus. ------------- Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously. Silly human race! Yes is for everybody! |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 09 2014 at 07:21
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The good ol' Grateful Dead.....how can Phish or the Airplane....or Iron Butterfly be on PA and not the forerunners of psychadelic, electronic and ambient music not be considered at least proto?
Inclusion of the Dead would open some memeber's eyes to a great progressive rock band. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: October 16 2014 at 20:49
Colin Scot, for his self-titled album that’s
really more a folk/pop effort but got a lot of attention from proggers for the
guest appearances from Rick Wakeman, Robert Fripp, Steve Gould and other
luminaries.
Here’s an earlier thread on him (or an attempt at one):http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24580" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24580------------- Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously. Silly human race! Yes is for everybody! |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 29 2014 at 19:28
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Los Lobos for the kooky songs and album production on kiko and Colossal Head.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: October 29 2014 at 20:10
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Alice Cooper's early 70's albums are prog imho. Halo of flies and black juju are two of my favorite prog songs. Bonzo dog doo dah band, melvins, and kyuss also all very progressive and influential. ------------- 
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Posted By: twalsh
Date Posted: October 30 2014 at 22:07
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How about Living Color? Metal, funk, R&B and hip-hop influences are certainly not typical. ------------- More heavy prog, please! |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 31 2014 at 12:56
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^Works for me! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: October 31 2014 at 18:56
I put them up a few years ago and was shouted down. Definitely worth a "prog -related" category IMHO. Living Colour are more prog-related than Metallica ever were. But I am really going to push for Vernon Reid to be added. His solo work and his other collaborations (with Masque for instance) is as prog as you can get and definitely in the eclectic or possibly Jazz-fusion category. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 02 2014 at 12:57
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^Yes, Vernon is very under appreciated. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 02 2014 at 13:19
XTC gets my nod.
Though it is a very unusual rock band, in the end, their work is insanely progressive, strange and sometimes nutz, and yet ... it works ... and we're not talking just lyrics, which are also a very nice touch on their part.
NP: The Big Express (one great album that should be listed in the PA top 100
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 02 2014 at 13:39
Listening to Vivid just now... Great album, one of my favourites from the late Eighties! I am not sure about them being prog-related, or more so than Metallica - who were extremely influential for the formation of prog-metal as we know it. On the other hand, LC are definitely eclectic and unconventional. Personally, I'd like Faith No More to get a "prog nod", but I will continue to enjoy them even if they don't . |
Posted By: twalsh
Date Posted: November 03 2014 at 10:47
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Now I have to check out Vernon Reid's solo work. Thanks. And I'd also add a nod to Faith No More. Crack Hitler anybody? ------------- More heavy prog, please! |