Albums You Don't Like That You Should
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Topic: Albums You Don't Like That You Should
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Albums You Don't Like That You Should
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 15:56
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Does anyone else have this, where a highly rated album by a band you really like ends up being bad? Some of mine: Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again... (4.24) I absolutely love the debut (3.67) and In The Land Of Grey And Pink (4.27), and really like the couple afterwards, but I'd give this album 3 stars in a generous mood, whereas the others would be high 4 and 5 stars. Egg - The Polite Force (4.11) Again, love the band but this album would get a 2-star rating. Despite this apparently being the band's best effort, the debut (3.68) gets a solid 5-star, and "The Civil Surface" a high 4-star. I should be digging the technical stuff as I did with the others, but no idea why I find it almost unlistenable. Same thing goes for ELP's debut, Gentle Giant's "Acquiring The Taste", and Jethro Tull's "Benefit" amongst others. Looking forward to if you've got any of these odd occurrences, and what the albums are
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 16:11
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Not sure about 'hate' but Dark Side Of The Moon has never moved me one iota and the production seemed to have drained all the life out of it (yet is apparently groundbreaking) . I like all Floyd from Meddle to The Wall but DSOTM leaves me a bit baffled. Its still 3 stars in my book , not terrible obviously. Some prog just seems a bit too laid back like Camel , early Gentle Giant and even some Genesis when they are in a very pastoral mood for my tastes but I'd struggle to say I hate any of it ( I don't). Possibly Images and Words and Script For A Jesters Tear might qualify. Both 2 star albums to me although I like at least 3 or 4 other albums by those bands enough to give them 4 or 5 stars on occasion.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 16:53
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I think the thread would work better if it was called "Albums You Don't Get ... ". "Hate" is such a strong word that stands for an emotion all of us evade. One album I'd add to my list is The Lamb ... . Every time I listen to it is like as if I'm banging my head against the wall. I enjoy only five tracks out of the total of 23. Five down, 18 to go. Eh.  This is coming way too slow.What else? In The Land of Grey and Pink. Nearly everything is wrong on that album (and not in a good way), though "Golf Girl", the piano solo on the title track, and the piano/Mellotron part on "Nine Feet ... " are quite enjoyable. Octopus. I've had enough of that album. I tried. I swear on my life I tried. A dozen times. Probably music for musicians, not for people who seek melody, true innovation, a rich sound, and a strong atmosphere. Bitches Brew. The very knowledge that this album is popular in our music circles and really sounds like a hell of a mess simply bewilders me. Again, probably music for musicians, not for people who seek melody, true duh-duh-duh-duh-duh ... .
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 17:03
I reserve my hate for things that really deserve it. Like spiders and people driving slower than me in front of me, in the left lane...  No time to "hate" music. Especially prog. If I don't like it, I just won't listen to it. Spending the time and energy it would take to actively hate a piece of music seems pointless.
However, a couple albums I don't get I always thought I should are: Marillion's Brave. Love most of their other recorded output, including most of the stuff with h, but just don't get this album. ELP's BSS always has left me a little cold. The only tracks that really grab me are movement 1, part 1 (not the dreadfully overplayed part 2) of Karn Evil 9 and Toccata. Jerusalem and Still are ok for what they are, but the rest of Karn Evil 9 I find rather dull. I love ELP's first 3 official albums as well as Pictures and Works Vol. 1. But BSS just never really clicked. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 17:21
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I "don't get" Gentle Giant-Three Friends-for me, it is kind of dull-I love Freehand much more King Crimson-Red-don't get the love for this, much prefer the first three albums Genesis-Foxtrot-I much prefer Trespass Soft Machine-debut and Volume Two-very disjointed records, what came later was a vast improvement |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 17:48
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Magic Pie debut is not an album I like ( I do enjoy green apples though)
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 18:33
I just wanted to say that every single album the OP mentions is possibly my favourite from that particular band  I feel like I should at least be able to tolerate TMV |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 19:22
| Wait for it...wait....The Raven That Refused To Sing and other stories...silence...I kill you. |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 19:44
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Everything by Dream Theater and Periphery and The Garden by Unitopia. ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: Watcher of the Sky
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 22:04
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Dream Theater - Octavarium and The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium I just don't enjoy it, no special reason. ------------- Nous sommes du soleil |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 22:23
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I 'don't get' and all IMHO - -Any Soft Machine album -Most Canterbury bands (esp. Caravan, Matching Mole, National Health) -Robert Wyatt in general does nothing for me (Rock Bottom has to be one of the most overrated prog rock albums of all-time) -Most Neo-Progressive bands with the exception of Marillion and IQ -Magma (horrible, horrible band) -The whole RIO movement (noise pollution to my ears) -Roxy Music -Hawkwind -Eloy (such hideous vocals that butcher the English language) -Steve Hillage -Gong -Steven Wilson in general, although I do like some of Porcupine Tree albums -I can tolerate some progressive metal like Fates Warning and Dream Theater, but, in general this genre leaves me cold I have a love/hate relationship with Gentle Giant and I'm starting to come around to Jethro Tull. I LOVE A Passion Play!
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 23:01
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Hideous, terrible, pollution.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 23:17
I love Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes, King Crimson, Rush, and Marillion. These bands, for me, are the cream of the crop while so much else I've heard has failed to touch or move me. Also, these bands are enough to keep me busy for a lifetime. I'm not sticking my head in the sand, I'm simply filtering out music I don't enjoy. Nothing wrong with this and as long as I'm honest with myself, it doesn't matter what anyone else says. I enjoy what I enjoy and that's all there is to it.
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Barbu wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 23:34
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^ Nothing wrong with it, of course. It's just your *I don't like it so it suck* attitude that bugs me, but that's my problem. Freedom of speech, dude. ------------- |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 23:43
Then I guess you don't like a lot of people's attitudes on this forum. Last time I checked, I wasn't the only person here who has said harsh things about music I don't care for. To be honest, I don't like spending time talking about music I don't enjoy and find it much more beneficial to talk about music that I do enjoy, which has made me reconsider even posting in these types of threads, which seem to be designed to trash music that does nothing for us. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 00:18
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Not enjoying dissonance and unexpected notes is fair enough. Some of the German singing and phrasing brings a smile to my face, it's part of the atmosphere for me, Eloy's voice of the god on Ocean intoning "primary procreation is accomplished".
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 02:16
Have to agree with you there. No matter how much I try, I can't get past the fact that it's just some guys noodling around.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 04:27
 I know they aren't for everyone, but this is really harsh, man.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 04:30
^ Yeah, ...
... that's a lot of hatred without any serious critical assessment. There's a fine line between "overrated" (which is a term that makes sense only when taken objectively) and "not for me". A lot of us like melodies, uneasy atmospheres, and distorted synthesizers, you don't, and that's the deal. No "over-rated" here.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:31
Melodies, uneasy atmospheres, and distorted synthesizers...I guess you're forgetting I'm a huge Floyd fan.  BTW, where in my post about Wyatt's Rock Bottom did I say I 'hated it'. I just said it was overrated. I really don't like it when people put words into my mouth.------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:33
I like dissonance as long as it has a purpose, and most importantly, a resolution within a piece of music. The music of Eloy itself is decent but the vocals just don't seem well done and out-of-place IMHO. I suppose some people find them charming and appropriate, I find them distracting.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:36
Yeah, I suppose it was a bit harsh, but, come on, I know you've read much worse on this forum. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:47
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:50
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:51
Where did I say the word 'horrible'? Where? I don't care for Wyatt nor do I think Rock Bottom is brilliant. Can we move along now? It's pretty ridiculous that I'm even arguing with someone over music I dislike. Seems rather pointless, don't you think? It's like arguing over what do you prefer 'vanilla or chocolate'. Some people adamantly love vanilla, some people love chocolate, and some even love both. It's just a preference. That's all. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:55
| ^ "Horrible" - not about Wyatt, about Magma. And it's never ridiculous, nor is it pointless (but I guess you could call curiosity about love/hate relationship pointless) to discuss music you dislike unless someone is overreacting. People do this here often, if only for a little while. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 10:05
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 11:18
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I thought this thread was about album you could like or should like? Meaning there are things you typically look out for in their music but for some reason they don't click. If you find a band awful in all points then i guess it's shouldn't be on a list titled "An Album I Should Like, But Don't" ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 11:28
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^ Exactly. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 11:31
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Frances the Mute - TMV: When TMV are good they are very good, but when tey f**k around with noise it leaves me cold. I've never listened to that album all the way through in one sitting. It's like being subjected to Vogon poetry.
WYWH - Pink Floyd: Some absolute classic tunes, but as an overall package nowhere near as good as DSOTM or Animals IMO. In the land of pink and grey - Caravan: Sorry, just don't get it. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 11:52
This seems like another 'albums you think are overrated thread'....
Tales From Topographic Oceans- imho the least best thing Yes did in their so-called classic years.
Lamb Lies Down- Again my least favorite classic Genesis album....just not that great imo.
Passion Play- never understood all the high ratings for this one...and I'm a Tull fan btw.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 12:11
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 12:48
"Does anyone else have this, where a highly rated album by a band you really like ends up being bad? Some of mine:"
Hmmm...sure sounds like a case of ratings to me.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 12:52
Maybe I'm just crazy, playing word games with myself.  * which has always been a word of objectivity to me.
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Posted By: JediJoker7169
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 13:02
| I love Gentle Giant, but don't love In A Glass House, which, by all rhyme and reason, I should. I love the four albums that came before it and the three that came after. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 13:48
I tend to think only a German band could do this. They are so cheesy its ridiculous but then they have no sense of being self conscious about it. Gotta love em
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 15:14
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All three of these bands have discographies that I love, with well-liked albums that rub me the wrong way for reasons I can't figure out - I think the repetitiveness is just taken too far, in a way that is too uncomfortable, and I have to turn it off King Crimson - Lizard - I literally have no idea why lizard turns me off so much... makes no sense to me Can -Tago Mago (2nd LP only) - I love Can so I dont know why the 2nd LP makes me feel so agitated that I can't finish it ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ramza1316" rel="nofollow - www.last.fm/user/ramza1316 https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 15:15
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Albums I don't like/get = virtually anything by Nektar. (Gasp!) ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 15:35
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Third Hosianna Mantra All I can think of right now. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 17:29
^ Sorry to hear that.  My top 40 albums.
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Posted By: Snowbound1997
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 17:43
| I love Genesis to death but i cant seem to get into The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. I love certain songs from the album like the title track and "It", but i feel like the album as a whole is kinda weak. Its not like i dont like concept albums and rock operas (Ayreon is one of my favorite "bands"), i just can't get into it. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 17:47
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 18:31
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I should really like Pawn Hearts, considering that I love Least, H To He and Godbluff, yet I only dig certain parts of each of the three songs that make it up. Maybe it's just too busy, jazzy or messy...not sure. I just find myself getting annoyed while listening to it, and get the urge to listen to one of their other albums. I even prefer Trisector...which is a pretty cool album. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 18:38
| Wait for it....Close To The Edge. I'm sick of it but it's my own damn fault. |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 21:06
Very interesting, especially since In A Glass House is one of my favorite GG albums. I prefer it to Octopus, but, for me, Three Friends is still my absolute favorite GG album. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 00:47
IAGH seems to lack any 'hooks' which other GG albums have. I'm very cool about it as well. Power And The Glory on the other hand..
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 01:51
I cannot think of any at the moment. I have been able to at least tolerate what I have listened to . However, if we were talking individual songs I would say The Court of the Crimson King. I still don't get it  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 11 2014 at 17:35
Pink Floyd - The Wall (I think the 4 notes of ABITW throughout the album are annoying and side D is weak) Mike Oldfield - Incantations (the definition of repetition) Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (I can barely listen to the whole album) King Crimson - In The Wake of Poseidon (it's so similar to the first album that it bothers me) The Beatles - s/t (there's not a song that I particularly like in it) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 05:18
It was meant to be of course although you are perfectly entitled to not like it. It would be my MO desert album album pick. Part 3 is one of the best prog tracks I've heard save for the poor mixing of Pierre Moerlen's drums (they need to be much higher in the mix) but there are so many high points to make up for it.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 05:23
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Laterlaus by Tool. A Crim freak recommended me to them at around the time both bands toured together. Honestly I tried really hard and I wanted to like the album but: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=174773" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=174773 ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 07:58
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Mantra is actually Kennans cat being squeezed and then slowed down. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 08:06
So why do Tool reject the approbation of pussies so reluctantly? -------------
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 09:54
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There is no album that I dislike that I feel I should like. If something doesn't move me, it doesn't move me and that's all there is to it. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 15:21
I would certainly like it if it was compressed to one disc. I like some parts of it but he repeats them to the point of exhaustion. |
Posted By: tawny ant
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 15:42
| maybe King Crimson's second album - just feels too uncomfortably twinned with the debut that it's hard not to compare them and find ITCOTCK the stronger. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 03:03
There was a single disc version which chopped Part 3 down to 13 minutes (sacrilege!) but I guess that's not what you are looking for! Have you tried the live version from Exposed? This is more or less an edited version.
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Posted By: Stereolab
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 03:07
I was thinking this exactly... it's still a good album but track-by-track ITCOTCK simply blows it up, because ITCOTCK is a timeless classic. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 05:05
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A couple spring to mind:
Guru Guru's debut UFO should for all purposes be right down my alley with the musicians playing raw lsd fuelled Krautrock, but I don't get it. The album sounds like it's description: three cats completely off their heads trying to achieve some form of sonic 'harmony' through the gelatinous veil of acid. The concept of talented musicians jamming together on acid works for me on the two first Cosmic Jokers releases, but here it doesn't. No siree. Malicorne 2: I thought I'd love this judging by what I'd read beforehand. i love folk - especially progressive folk.........but when I hear this group my mind instantly flies straight through hundreds of kitsch Robin Hood images, all marred by light green tights and jolly men dancing the jig around the bonfire. Too....ermm...original! for my tastes methinks. Like trying to intellectualise a Monty Python skit by playing genuine French barok folk inside a pink watercloset. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:11
| I love all the krautrock obscurities but for some reson can't click with the big names - Can, Ash Ra Tempel, Guru Guru, Faust etc. It's not that I don't like it, I do but I'm not blown away at all. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:24
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Have you tried mid 70s Can Sagi? Things like Soon over Babaloma and Landed are something I think you'd appreciate. Especially Landed. Try on the track Vernal Equinox for size;-) ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:28
^Hmmm...I don't think I heard those, but thanks I'll check it out 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:33
Why do you love specifically obscurities?
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:35
Btw Sagi, I received mail from you 
It's at my folks' place, but I'll be leaving for it later today. I can't wait to check it out! Would've dropped you a mail in here but it's too damn complicated over the phone. What we need is an app made for PA. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:42
I don't really know, it's not the fact that they are obscure, it just turned out like this for some reason. I had a problem getting into Popol Vuh as well but that's sorted out now. Hosianna Mantra (the only one I have) is beautiful. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:47
That's great! it actually took me so long to send it but I'm glad it arrived now. I wonder what you'll make of it... P.S - You owe 2.5 bucks |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:58
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------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 17:09
I didn't know Exposed but by the track lenghts it seems more acceptable. I'll give it a try |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 17 2014 at 18:16
I just finished listening to Exposed: I really liked it, he didn't over repeat at all, although I still found the sang parts annoying (I think it's the main reason why I don't like Incantations). The funky flute and drums Tubular Bells was also great. Thank you for the suggestion |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 18 2014 at 01:43
My Pleasure I do love that live version of TB. Pierre is a hero on that.  |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 20 2014 at 20:02
| Anything by Curved Air. Also, the entire Hawkwind catalog. |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: July 21 2014 at 14:24
| Meddle, Animals,Wish You Were Here, The Wall...all of em hav amazed me immensly...but somehow DSOTM didn't click. |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: July 21 2014 at 19:36
That being the case, I should like Kansas, "Point of Know Return," but I do not. The four albums they did before that one showed me that they could be an American progressive-style band to be reckoned with. But, then, they gave in too much to the record-label's cry for "more hits, more hits," and put out the sadly disappointing PoKR... |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 21 2014 at 22:30
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That's odd, it's completely the opposite for that album. Their previous stuff screamed AOR or that classic rock feel in a very American way. PotKR seemed a little more musically interesting and didn't scream radio rock. Dust in the Wind is an obvious hit but it still doesn't have that overly American feel. Plus it;s a great song regardless. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 05:34
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Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 05:42
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I don't like Close to the Edge and I am surprised so many prog heads like this album so much. This album is just playing the instruments in different signatures and tempos. Completely forgettable.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 07:56
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Kahn and everything by Syd... also the Giles album, Trout Mask Replica... Actually I don't really think there is a reason I should like any of those.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: July 30 2014 at 16:19
| Pink Floyd The Final Cut |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: July 31 2014 at 17:04
| Hawkwind. Anything with Michael Moocock's influence. I love the Elric stories, but Hawkwind always sounded like punk rock thrashing to me. I can't digest them as Prog. |
Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 13:39
| 99% of Dream Theater's music (despite being a huge Symphony X fan), and Dark Side of The Moon. It just never clicked with me. |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 14:55
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Oh, sweet, what a marvelous place to vent :) CTTE - half of it is uninteresting TAAB - no idea how one could listen to it more than twice ITCOCK - half of it sounds like a demo tape by a no-composer, no-lyricist, no-singer band. Could have been of interest, had it come a few years before Sgt. Pepper. All VdGG, summarily, is awful:) Dream Theater, Rush and other heavy people that are often discussed and praised here despite having few or no prog credentials. Miles Davis is not prog either. Most of Italian prog is unoriginal Most of Zeuhl and Krautrock registers with me as "low quality music"
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 15:30
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 08 2014 at 17:51
All VdGG, summarily, is awful? How utterly laughable. Look into a strong laxative. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 08 2014 at 19:53
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For me such creatures don't exist. Either I like an album or I am indifferent. There is nothing out there that I should like. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 11:03
Yep, that's the one. The band in general bores me silly, but Lateralus as a supposed masterpiece just makes me cringe. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 13:20
These albums have already been mentioned:
I'm crazy about The Polite Force by Egg, which is probably in my top 10 of all time favorite albums of any band, but I don't like Egg's debut album nor The Civil Surface I do like Close To The Edge, but it's my least favorite of all the Yes albums of the 1970's. Taste can be a strange thing, eh?
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Posted By: floflo79
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 13:40
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For me, The Road Of Bones is really bad. But it's really high on the top 100. WTF ? ------------- 
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 14:03
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Stereolab
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 15:01
| All of the 80s UK neo-proggers (Marillion, IQ, Pendragon, etc.). They have all of the ingredients of prog but to me they sound weak, meandering and unmelodious. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 15:08
That's an interesting comment since many think their strong suit is their use of melody and structure while other more eclectic and experimental prog bands have less melody and structure.
Perhaps the only similar genre that has as much melody would be symphonic prog. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 15:51
Well is there any Tool fan out there who could recommend THE go to album by the group? |
Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 09:22
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Relayer. The 'grey eminence' of the Yes catalogue, their return to form, with a bit of fusion thrown in, I should like it.
I don't like it. |
Posted By: Hnrz
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 12:40
| I was listening to some vinyl and browsing the forums, and by coincidence I was spinning to 'Olias of Sunhillow' at the time I came across this thread. I absolutely adore the artwork and the book in the sleeve, but I just can't get on with the music. It's highly regarded, and it is often said to be the best of the yes solo albums of that time, but I really don't get it. I can't find any structure or memorable melodies, it basically being ambiance with virtually no variation throughout the run time. Personally, I can't escape the feeling that it sounds like someone sat on the high end of a keyboard, wobbled around a bit for forty minutes and recorded it badly. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 12:55
I feel the same way about Olias and I have to say I also don't really care for TFTO; other than side 1 of Tales I simply can't get all the way through the other sides without being bored. and I have had Tales on vinyl since it came out .
 ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 12:58
You and me both, brother. I read somewhere that it was the most financially successful Yes solo album, but I don't get it. The thing just falls flat. Long live Squire's Fish Out of Water! |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 13:03
| I'm fairly tepid about Wish You Were Here and Selling England By The Pound. Don't get the giddy love VdGG fans have for the run of Least . . . to Godbluff that are constantly touted. I don't even care about hearing the rest of their output I'm so unmoved. Agree that A Passion Play is mostly one long bit of noodling. |
Posted By: Hnrz
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 13:21
| Good to know I'm not alone! There aren't actually many bad reviews for Olias on here. 'Lucky Seven' beats Olias all by itself! |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 13:25
Even though I'm not really a fan of the band, Ænima is my personal favorite, as some of the tracks on it actually sound quite impressive to me. Things like "Jimmy" and "Third Eye" - mind-crushing. Not mind-blowing. Mind-crushing. And then there are other classic Tool songs on that same album, so I didn't go wrong when I bought it.
- Nearly everything on it is electric - The sitar is not my friend - I miss the Western folk elements on the album - There's a serious shortage of melodies - The way fusion was incorporated into Yes' symph sound - wyeh! - Like on Fragile, Howe's guitar that doesn't sound sharp, rending - that's rather unsatisfying - The material on the album sounds forced, as if the band was trying to impress us
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 13:32
Tales is very bloated and while many give it masterpiece status there are many who can't even get through it. A controversial record for sure. Olias has never clicked with me despite many efforts on my part to appreciate it. So I agree that both albums just aren't that good, imo of course.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: ergaster
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 07:35
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In Absentia. Apparently I am supposed to love this album, but I just cannot. Dark Side of the Moon. Never did anything for me, ever. All surface no depth. IMHO of course.... ------------- We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty. Captain Malcolm Reynolds Reality rules, Honor the truth Chemist99a R.I.P. |
Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 07:52
Darkside never did much for me as well, but I chalk it up to having been exposed to it so much due to its legendary status, that I was desensitized by the time I started seriously taking on prog rock. Tarkus never hit home with me, either. I need to re-listen to a lot of ELP. ------------- "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?" |