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Topic: Stephen Hawking vs Richard Feynman
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Stephen Hawking vs Richard Feynman
Date Posted: June 28 2014 at 11:47
I have seen both on youtube both done great things to science, i really love the mind and thoughts of Richard Feynman on Youtube, and Steven Hawking is truely inspirring.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 28 2014 at 12:32
As much as I admire Hawking, it's Feynman by a very wide margin.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 28 2014 at 13:05
Ciuld you mention please scientis/physecists which you rank over Feynman in 1900s of some fame and in-between Richard and Stephen.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 28 2014 at 13:16
Feynman died in 1988 so everyone ranked over him in the 90s Wink




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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 01:04
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I have seen both on youtube both done great things to science, i really love the mind and thoughts of Richard Feynman on Youtube, and Steven Hawking is truely inspirring.

I will be the first one to vote above for Steven Hawking, mainly because I had to look up Richard Feyman on google while I know Hawking's work (some). Anyway I am a nincompoop


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 01:10
This is good, if you want have a look at this, it's satirical funny really :) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Stephen Hawking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPV3D7f3bHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPV3D7f3bHY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPV3D7f3bHY


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 02:09
Feynman was the greater of the two, but Nils Bohr was even greater


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 02:55
Feynman's contribution was much more important, wider and more inspired than Hawking's (who of course deserves admiration too), and it's true that even Feynman's work was probably less revolutionary than that of the original quantum guys, Bohr, Heisenberg, Dirac, Schroedinger, Einstein and co.
It's sad to say this but it's hard to see anybody after Feynman who can be comparable in terms of insight and importance of his-her contribution, maybe only Murray Gell-Mann being close for his contribution to QCD and the completion of the standard model.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 03:20
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I have seen both on youtube both done great things to science, i really love the mind and thoughts of Richard Feynman on Youtube, and Steven Hawking is truely inspirring.

I will be the first one to vote above for Steven Hawking, mainly because I had to look up Richard Feyman on google while I know Hawking's work (some). Anyway I am a nincompoop
That's a bit of shame and a reflection on the nature of popular celebrity, but rest assured in the realm of Physics Feynman was as much a celebrity as Hawking.


Anyway, you're not a nincompoop.


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 03:31
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Ciuld you mention please scientis/physecists which you rank over Feynman in 1900s of some fame and in-between Richard and Stephen.
There have been quite a few great ones after Feynman, the problem (or better said, the big difference) is that after QCD and the completion of the standard model in general, all the later developments have been in theoretical areas, without experimental confirmation (I mean big things, of course there have been experimentally confirmed advances but not changing radically the existing theories). That's why I mentioned Gell-Mann in my other post as possibly the latest of those who really changed the big theories. The standard model is the last big theory which so far has passed every experimental test.
But of course there have been very important people, John Wheeler made important contributions to the refinement of quantum theory, Roger Penrose, Alan Guth for the inflationary theory which although not experimentally confirmed is widely supported, George Smoot and his team confirmed experimentally the important fact that the universe expansion is accelerating, Veneziano or Edward Witten in string theory, Leonard Susskind or Lee Smolin in cosmological theories, Zumino and the other guys who developed supersymmetry, David Deutsch made much progress in quantum computing etc etc.
But on one hand, most of these people either did not really make big changes to the existing theories (such as QED or QCD were at their time), or their contributions, while possibly important have remained theoretical without experimental confirmation.
Another thing is that recently most advances are done by teams along certain time, it's not anymore the case that a single guy radically changes physics with his own insight such as Einstein and co did. If you take important recent developments such as supersymmetry, string theory, quantum loop gravity etc, it's hard to pinpoint a single person as the "inventor" or "discoverer", they are usually the result of the sum of several people's work.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 05:38
I like watching Brian Greenes documentaries and that japanese american Michia Kaku, both are good at presenting theories and are good at precenting difficult stuff in a precentable manner.



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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 11:00
My field of study (electrical engineering) probably owes much more to Feynman


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 11:14
Richard Feynman, one of the greatest modern geniuses.

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 13:33
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I like watching Brian Greenes documentaries and that japanese american Michia Kaku, both are good at presenting theories and are good at precenting difficult stuff in a precentable manner.

Yeah they may not be great physicists themselves but they do a good job at bringing science to the wider public, and this alone is worth a praise for them. Sometimes they exaggerate a bit though, listening to Greene you would think that string theory is the solution to the Theory of Everything question when it is not the case, and Kaku too often makes a shortcut from accepted physics to imaginary possibilities, but OK, it's good that they try to get people interested in science.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 13:42
I feel Greene is a better physesist the Kaku, but i might be wrong, but his mind is flexible and makes quantum reality seem graspable in a sence , ( which is really not possible) he might be a bit to animatic and might never wim a nebel price, but have youseen his interview with Richard Dawkins, very good and gets a nice comparisons between evolutionary biology and physics.   

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 13:53
Don't really know enough about either man to say who's work is more meaningful, though I enjoyed Hawking's celebrated book,  but the word 'physicist ' was really mangled in the poll question header.
 
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 13:54
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I feel Greene is a better physesist the Kaku, but i might be wrong, but his mind is flexible and makes quantum reality seem graspable in a sence , ( which is really not possible) he might be a bit to animatic and might never wim a nebel price, but have youseen his interview with Richard Dawkins, very good and gets a nice comparisons between evolutionary biology and physics.   
What I meant is that they are just good communicators, none of them has made really significant contributions to the science itself as physicists (they have done some good stuff, sure, but nothing really outstanding). But yes, communicating about science is also very important nowadays when very few people seem interested in it, and for that alone Greene and Kaku deserve praise. It's a bit like what Carl Sagan did in the 1980's about astrophysics and cosmology.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 14:36
Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 15:18
Feynman

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 15:36
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?
Confused

Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 15:49
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

Confused
Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.
im quite awere of that.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 15:58
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

Confused
Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.
im quite awere of that.
Then why mention him here?


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 16:38
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

Confused
Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.
im quite awere of that.

Then why mention him here?
i respect how he presented nature on tv as something wondrfull without the thought of a hrand creator behind it, that nature is grand enough as it is, hes. Voice of presenting docus of be it zoology, or biology, might have bben influence to how guys like Brian Greene Dawkins and orhøøthers present things on television.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 16:48
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

Confused
Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.
im quite awere of that.

Then why mention him here?
i respect how he presented nature on tv as something wondrfull without the thought of a hrand creator behind it, that nature is grand enough as it is, hes. Voice of presenting docus of be it zoology, or biology, might have bben influence to how guys like Brian Greene Dawkins and orhøøthers present things on television.
I thought this was a thread about who is the most important physicist not who is the best TV science presenter. If that's the case then I vote for Dr. Helen Czerski. Tongue


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 06:35
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

Confused
Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.
im quite awere of that.

Then why mention him here?
i respect how he presented nature on tv as something wondrfull without the thought of a hrand creator behind it, that nature is grand enough as it is, hes. Voice of presenting docus of be it zoology, or biology, might have bben influence to how guys like Brian Greene Dawkins and orhøøthers present things on television.
I thought this was a thread about who is the most important physicist not who is the best TV science presenter. If that's the case then I vote for Dr. Helen Czerski. Tongue


Good old Altrincham lass!


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Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 09:44
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Or David Athenbourough has done in 40years of biologicsl diveraity of pkanet earth?

Confused
Attenborough is not a scientist, he's a TV presenter of nature documentaries.
im quite awere of that.

Then why mention him here?
i respect how he presented nature on tv as something wondrfull without the thought of a hrand creator behind it, that nature is grand enough as it is, hes. Voice of presenting docus of be it zoology, or biology, might have bben influence to how guys like Brian Greene Dawkins and orhøøthers present things on television.
I thought this was a thread about who is the most important physicist not who is the best TV science presenter. If that's the case then I vote for Dr. Helen Czerski. Tongue


I vote for Liz Bonin


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 16:34
Which physics term/theme would you give / precent for Feynman past his death (1988) from 90s or later, ( he seems like a really skilled problem solver, thats my impression), which he would value persuing.   I can semiquote what peoole who knew him describd of his problem solving capabilities he had " what took most physecists used three years to solve, Feynman could use two months (less or more) "


Is question understandable,

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 17:11
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Which physics term/theme would you give / precent for Feynman past his death (1988) from 90s or later, ( he seems like a really skilled problem solver, thats my impression), which he would value persuing.   I can semiquote what peoole who knew him describd of his problem solving capabilities he had " what took most physecists used three years to solve, Feynman could use two months (less or more) "

Is question understandable,
I can't know what would attract Feynman's interest, but there are quite some open questions in physics.
The first and most obvious is the attempt to reconcile Relativity with Quantum Mechanics, this is considered the Holy Grail of physics. There is no absolute reason why they should be possible to reconcile, but it seems nice that they should, we always strive for unification as it seems to infuse deeper meaning to the phenomena we observe in the universe.
The next major challenge is the nature of dark energy and dark matter, after all our best theories can only account for 4% of the universe surrounding us, so that is not very uplifting.
Life is another big challenge (and the phenomenon of complexity in general) which no current theory is capable to explain. Why and how do the constituent elements of the universe combine into ever more complex structures? and why and how do these structures reach a point when they become masters of their own destiny, apparently overtaking the very laws of nature?
On a more abstract plane, the subject of FreeWill is also one of the big questions, to which extent is the world pseudo-deterministic (we know at root, quantum level, it is not, it is random, but on larger scales the laws of nature seem to be pretty deterministic. Where is the border and why is there such a border?).
Related to this last point, the subject of quantum decoherence is also still a mystery (why the quantum rules and the macroscopic rules are so different). Where and how does the quantum world become the macroscopic world?



Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 17:33
I dont have computer aroubd me ( writes on phone) i will give a coomenrmt morexeleauantly when a keybord isinfront of me :)

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 18:01
What instruments do these guys play? metal? punk? What?


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 18:03
Feynman played some bongos. :D

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 18:18
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Feynman played some bongos. :D
And marimba as I recall, and throat singing. 

Hawking provided vocals for Pink Floyd's Division Bell.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 30 2014 at 19:14
^Ah, now that rings a bell.


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 09:12
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Ah, now that rings a bell.


Here we go with the puns... I don't know if I have chime for it


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 09:18
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Ah, now that rings a bell.


Here we go with the puns... I don't know if I have chime for it
That's a bit of a clanger


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 14:48
It's hard to tell which kind of guy (or woman of course) will it take to make a next major leap in modern physics, it's quite frustrating that having more people and resources dedicated to it than ever we have hardly made any fundamental progress since the 1970's (hey, some link to Prog Rock here perhaps? Wink). In some sense it's impressive and even weird that technology in many areas has been progressing so fast when the fundamental science has not.

Someone who will just have the insight to see something, some relatively simple principle which is just eluding everybody else because everybody is looking from the wrong perspective, even if his technical proficiency is not one of the best? (such as Einstein, he was not technically a top scientists, he just had the insight of realising things, basic principles, which the others did not see. He actually had to learn non-euclidean maths to develop mathematically what he had just realised by intuition, general relativity).

Or perhaps a super-skilled mathematician? who may come up with solutions to for example the unification of relativity and quantum mechanics from purely mathematical grounds?

Or perhaps someone more in the field of cosmology? (given that several of the biggest enigmas are in this field, dark energy, dark matter, black holes...).

As great as Feynman was, I am not sure that he would have been able to crack the current enigmas, for some reason we seem to have hit a barrier of a different level. It is not normal that with so many scientists and resources nobody is able to make significant fundamental progress in 45 years, this had not happened in the last few centuries. 
 


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 15:34
Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?

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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 15:38
I've read that Stephen Hawking doesn't believe there can be a Theory of Everything due to Godel's Incompleteness Theorem.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 15:46
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?
Aren't musicians the work a day physicists in that they are constantly, though growing almost oblivious to the fact, manipulating sound and vibrations? Good Vibrations as Brian Wilson once opined?


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 17:27
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?
Aren't musicians the work a day physicists in that they are constantly, though growing almost oblivious to the fact, manipulating sound and vibrations? Good Vibrations as Brian Wilson once opined?
the humbuucks of a el guitar works becouse of EM and so does the amp speaker,, then you got the aspect of synesthesia were sences depect sounds as mental images of colours (Feynman was or had limited synesthesia were he saw equations and numbers with colours)

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 01 2014 at 17:49
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?
Aren't musicians the work a day physicists in that they are constantly, though growing almost oblivious to the fact, manipulating sound and vibrations? Good Vibrations as Brian Wilson once opined?
Simple answer: No they are not, in exactly the same way that eating fish doesn't make you a marine biologist or being awarded a gold star in kindergarten for producing a nice picture doesn't make you an astronomer.


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 02 2014 at 06:10
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?
I guess that one could say that psychology is physics taken to its ultimate complexity level. But along the way up the complexity ladder there seems to be some point were the physics is not anymore describable by our usual understanding of laws of physics, precise mathematical equations, at some point it seems likely that other things such as "principles", "trends", "patterns", "attractors" etc take over definite mathematical laws. There has been some progress in the study of complexity and mostly it has result in identification of some general principles, pattern trends etc rather than any mathematical equations in the traditional physics sense (that's why many hardcore physicists still hesitate to recognise complexity as a real branch of physics in the same rank as the traditional areas).


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 02 2014 at 09:50
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?
Aren't musicians the work a day physicists in that they are constantly, though growing almost oblivious to the fact, manipulating sound and vibrations? Good Vibrations as Brian Wilson once opined?
Simple answer: No they are not, in exactly the same way that eating fish doesn't make you a marine biologist or being awarded a gold star in kindergarten for producing a nice picture doesn't make you an astronomer.
Does this mean that I can't split an atom with my stratocaster? The grand kids are going to be so disappointed on the 4th. Unhappy


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 02 2014 at 13:21
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Howe about the power of music , how can music " mannipulate feelings in humans (emotivness) , ironicly musicians with no clue of chemistry or physics can create a fusion of contrasted rythems, harmonies, melodies, frequencies, dynamic range, distortion, created through sound waves vibrations in space perhaps, someplace between the source of music and you as a input of the music "strange" things hapoens, which makes us even cry, get violent, get enthimusiastic, sad etc

Is this psychology or is it biology and therfore chemestry -> physics?
Aren't musicians the work a day physicists in that they are constantly, though growing almost oblivious to the fact, manipulating sound and vibrations? Good Vibrations as Brian Wilson once opined?
Simple answer: No they are not, in exactly the same way that eating fish doesn't make you a marine biologist or being awarded a gold star in kindergarten for producing a nice picture doesn't make you an astronomer.
Does this mean that I can't split an atom with my stratocaster? The grand kids are going to be so disappointed on the 4th. Unhappy
No but you can explain them that music and harmony were considered a pure science by Pythagoras and Co.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 02 2014 at 13:29
Confused they still are "pure science" - the physics of why two tones are harmonic or not hasn't changed.

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 06 2014 at 12:24
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

I've read that Stephen Hawking doesn't believe there can be a Theory of Everything due to Godel's Incompleteness Theorem.
Several very clever people have said that at some moment, but most more modern reviews of the subject by very clever people conclude that one thing has nothing to do with the other. Godel's theorem basically says that any sufficiently complex formal system (and which complies with a couple of requirements such as arithmetic does) will have undecidable propositions. Translated into a physics theory this would mean that even if we knew the "Theory Of Everything", the theory would predict (or allow) the possibility of things which we could never know if they do actually happen in the physical world or they don't, even if we never observe them we could never prove that they can not or do not happen, the theory would remain necessarily undecissive about it.
An analogy is the decidability of the randomness of a sequences of numbers. We can never prove that a sequence of numbers is truly random, but we can prove that it is not random by finding a more compressed form. Not finding any more compressed form is not a proof that it is uncompressible (truly random), it can be that it truly is or it can be that we have not yet found the compression algorithm.
A different angle to the question is that knowing a theory does not equal to knowing or even being in principle able to know its manifestations. Quantum theory has the famous Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, we know the mathematical theory but it tells us that we can never know precisely certain features of the world. Similarly, there are theories we know mathematically (such as general relativity) for which computing solutions is in practice is often impossible. And yet another take is chaos physics, where knowing the mathematical theory does not help in being able to know what the system will do after a short time.
A Theory Of Everything, even if it exists and it could ever be found, does not absolutely mean that we could know, deduce or compute much about the physical world. 


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 12 2016 at 01:58
hurra for science and the next noble price winner in physics for the discovery of gravitational waves, now i will take out my surf board.


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