Genesis reunite for a new BBC 2 documentary
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Topic: Genesis reunite for a new BBC 2 documentary
Posted By: Michael678
Subject: Genesis reunite for a new BBC 2 documentary
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 07:23
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the title of this discussion pretty much says it all. more details are found here: http://prog.teamrock.com/news/2014-06-16/genesis-reunite-for-a-bbc-2-documentary" rel="nofollow - http://prog.teamrock.com/news/2014-06-16/genesis-reunite-for-a-bbc-2-documentary ------------- Progrockdude |
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 08:24
Wow that is so exciting! Leave it to the BBC to get these 5 genius's in one room together---hope against hope something more than the doc develops from it. Without hope you can not start the day.
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 15:37
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Great news! Just hope something happen, five, four or three, don't matter to me, even two of them would be ok. Without hope you can not start the day..."yes", perfect phrase.
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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 16:11
Awesome! Knowing me I'll probably miss it anyway 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 16:20
I think its worth putting the picture up on its own |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 16:22
| I suppose its an old photo but I like it |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 16:33
great photo--it looks recent to me---Banks looks the least happy to be there ---as usual.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 16:37
He looks like a fan just gatecrashing a band and looking a bit sheepish about the whole thing. You've got to love him. He's one of us (ignoring the massive musical talent behind the social awkwardness)
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twosteves wrote:Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 17:06
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This is excellent news, but I doubt anything musical will come from it as Peter Gabriel has stressed many times before that he has no interest in going down that road. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 17:09
you are right |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 21:07
Even if Gabriel wouldn't re-unite with the rest of Genesis, if at least Hackett did that would be more than enough for me. I like Collins voice better anyway, and he may not be able to drum anymore (I don't know how things are going on that issue), so there would be little for him to do if Gabriel assumed lead vocals. Though there is the possibility that the new formation would include the two of them sharing lead vocals, and have Chester Thompson on drums. Though very likely nothing more will happen anyway. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 21:23
I agree that the Second Out Line up would make me very happy and be more than enough for me--but Banks has said no Genesis reunion without Peter--he just knows how to keep a grudge against Hackett
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 21:56
Like I said, I doubt nothing will come from this reunion. Wishful thinking is all it is. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 00:38
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Finally they get together just wished they played together though ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 02:29
They just announced this on ITV whilst playing "Invisible Touch" in the background  and also described them as "the original members of Genesis".
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 02:51
| If the band can 'reunite' for a doco, surely they can 'reunite' for a musical project of some sort ???? |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 02:54
It depends on the level of reuniting. They can easily make a documentary featuring all 5 without them all being in the same room at the same time. Even the photos can be Photoshopped. I guess we'll find out!
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 02:59
Even if we get something along the lines of We Can't Dance crossed with some of Gabriel's more recent stylings, I'm sure it would be a satisfying offering for all a d sundry....... |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 03:05
Yes you're probably right. We can but hope...
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 03:17
| Damn it, hope does come in the finest of threads........... |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 05:22
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Money waxes lyrical......or money talks. Hope is free! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 06:28
Really great news! 
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 08:38
| Just saw Gabriel in 2011 on a talk show saying the door is not locked for a Genesis reunion---but once he agreed to it--it all got very big --very fast and he didn't think he could commit the time to it---also Hackett said recently he's in touch with all of them now and then--it's not like they hate each other or don't speak---from all I read it's really all up to Peter, as I know Banks won't do it without Peter. I mean a one off performance of Lamb---to be filmed would be cool. |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 09:35
I doubt a whole performance of The Lamb will happen, but realistically they could very well perform a selection of songs from Gabriel years. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: Guitarman1
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 12:36
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A week of performences in London, and a week in New York, all to be filmed?!
I think that would satisfy most fans. I also think that the Money to the "musos" would be enough. What do you think? |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 16:58
Gabriel said in a recent interview that the Lamb and Supper's Ready are the two things that interest him when he thinks back to those times---can't see him doing Hogweed or I know what I like for example.
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 17:09
Did he say this?, well sounds good, I thought that he is not interested in anything from those times. In any case these two masterpieces have lyrics from his own. Yes, I can understand what he is saying. Where did you read this? such an interesting thing... or you listened it somewhere?
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 21:53
Actually, if a reunion would happen, which once again, I still think is not very likely, I would be rather disapointed if they did it for a complete performance of The Lamb. That one is my least favourite of the classic era albums, and has very few songs I really like. I would very much prefer a collection of songs from the classic era. |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 21:58
If they do anything from The Lamb, then I'm sure it will merely selections from the album. Like I said, I find it highly unlikely they would perform the whole double album. It would be fantastic if they did since The Lamb is my favorite Genesis album, but, again, let's be realistic here. Supper's Ready is a definite possibility though. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 01:27
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The Musical Box The Fountain Of Salmacis Suppers Ready Dancing With The Moonlit Knight Firth Of Fifth The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway ( the first side in old vinyl terms and maybe the last two songs on the album would do me) encore tracks The Knife Solsbury Hill A Whiter Shade Of Pale (does it have to be just Genesis tracks?) and then I wake up
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Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 04:44
| It's fun to speculate but I think that a musical reunion is very unlikely. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 04:54
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Can agree with the previous 2 posts by Richardh and Kirillov. Love Richard's song-selection, but have my doubts anything will come of this 'reunion' other than an historical retrospective interview with their current perspectives....
"Pete, I can't believe you shaved a wedge out of your head - what were you thinking ??" "Oh, that mellotron was a real pain in the ass to work with - never again" "What time sig was that in again ??" ........ |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 21:08
| My take on which songs I'd like to have them play would be: The Knife, Musical Box, Supper's Ready, Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, Firth of Fifth, Cinema Show (with Aisle of Plenty at the end), In the Cage. |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 11:13
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If Gabriel is turning down a reunion of this band, then he is a bigger douche than I thought. Shame on him for being a drama queen. In my opinion, anything he has done AFTER Genesis is feeble at best. He is the Yoko Ono of Genesis. Smasher of creativity and collaboration. Crusher of musical hopes and dreams. Disrespector of fans everywhere and an ego maniac. They should reunite and have Fish take his place. At least Fish still has some prog balls left. I think Gabriel is a pandering waste of time overrated prima donna. A former multi instrumentalist that would rather dance around in big pants then play an instrument. Shame on him. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 11:55
^ Wow ...   ... though I have read posts more negative (let alone weirder) than that. 
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 12:26
| I think there is a frustration because they do get along and seem to like one another (unlike Yes or Floyd or Zep) and their 70's music is so important to their career no matter what Banks thinks lol---Gabriel says he can't sing that high anymore--but sometimes creative people don't want to revisit something they did in their 20's ---I think they don't want to think that the best they did was then (which is what I think) --as artists they want to believe their best work came as they got older and wiser. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 17:16
| The obvious thought occurs to me that if Gabriel turns down the chance then why not bring in Simon Collins to play drums so as to free up his dad to concentrate on vocals as well as avoiding potential physical back issues? It would be a bit like Jason Bonham taking the drum stool for Led Zep of course but that worked okay didn't it? |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 17:20
^Brilliant Richard. No wonder why the UK is the home of prog.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 17:24
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From listening to the Dimensionaut album, I think that would be a great idea. He has his father's chops for sure....and a little zing of his own (I'm not crazy about the sound of his drums on that album though, but he rocks).
Then again, I have a bigger chance of riding my bike on the moon than the dream team ever getting it on again. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 17:24
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^ Not sure where all this is at at the moment but I assume a lamb album celebration is out of the picture.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 19:21
Banks (multi-millionaire from 3 piece Genesis for 30 years) ---says reunion only possible with Peter---said it numerous times---Banks dropped out of being on a Hackett record a few years back ---after he agreed to do it---because he didn't want to give anyone the wrong idea---
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 19:56
C'mon, don't sugar coat. What do you really think? ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 20:58
I think you're way off the mark here. Gabriel left Genesis completely on his own because he wanted to do something else musically then what the band were doing. His wife also had a difficult pregnancy and he wanted to be there for her and his child. What's so egomaniacal about that? Whose dreams and hopes did he crush by leaving the band? If anything, the Genesis members were selfish, especially Banks, because they didn't realize that there's more to life than music. Your family comes first. Anyway, Gabriel spent a lot of time with Genesis and his mind was going in a different direction. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with Gabriel for wanting to do other things. As much as I'm sure we all would have loved Gabriel to stick it out with Genesis, you have to realize that he wanted something else for himself and I'm completely for that because he has made some great music regardless of what you think and has had a remarkable solo career, again, regardless of what you think. Fish hasn't done anything worthwhile in years IMHO and has continuously been eclipsed by what Marillion have been doing, but I've never been a big fan of Fish anyway.
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 21:12
I see....and everything Phil Collins has done in and out of Genesis has been the height of progressive and musical sophistication and intelligence?
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 21:57
I didn't know Phil's son was a drummer (though I think I had seen his name on the Genesis Revisited album as a singer), but this would be truly wonderful. Once again, I wouldn't get my hopes high, but I guess that could work just fine. And I guess he could do some suporting vocals too. And since we are in the mood of thinking about relatives helping complete the line-up, perhaps Steve's brother could come in to play the flute too. |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: June 19 2014 at 22:18
All wishful thinking. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2014 at 01:49
Yep that original post was daft beyond extremes.Pretty much everything Gabriel did eclipsed everything Genesis did from 1977 onwards. Gabriel developed and moved forwards and even established his own record label also giving a lot back to other artists with his continued support of 'world music'. Gabriel is an absolute shining example of how a music artist should behave.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 07:14
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 10 2014 at 07:27
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