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Script For A Jester's Tear OR Misplaced Childhood?

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Topic: Script For A Jester's Tear OR Misplaced Childhood?
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Script For A Jester's Tear OR Misplaced Childhood?
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 10:30
2 very similarly rated albums (the first being 4.21, second being 4.23). Both were obviously released by neo-prog giants Marillion and essential to forming the sub-genre. Their debut "Script For A Jester's Tear" is perhaps truer to prog rock, whereas "Misplaced Childhood" is slightly more commercial/pop-influenced with songs such as "Kayleigh" and "Lavender". My question, simply which is better?

For me, "Script For A Jester's Tear" is much more consistent on the whole, and feels more completed than "Misplaced Childhood", which feels a bit more patchy to me(although the first 3 songs are excellent). I've posted the covers of each album below too.

As always, thanks for any feedback! Smile

Marillion - Script for a Jesters Tear - album coverMarillion - Misplaced Childhood - album cover



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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 10:37
Script did never grab me as much as Misplaced Childhood did.

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 10:41
Misplaced Childhood

There is only one sheer masterpiece song on the debut LP and it's the title track.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 10:45
Script.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 10:46
Clutching At Straws.

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Posted By: ScorchedFirth
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 10:50
My two all time favorite albums! I guess I would go for Misplaced Childhood by the narrowest of margins, but I love all of Fish-era Marillion significantly more than anything else.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 11:21
Script For A Jester's Tear

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Posted By: Argor
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 11:31
Script is very good, while Misplaced Childhood is much too pop-oriented for me.


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 11:43
Script with the added Market Boat Grendel tracks especially

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 11:53
Script for me. If the first side of Childhood was less poppy I'd pick it. The second side of Childhood is sublime!

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 13:18
Very difficult.
Okay, Misplaced Childhood it is.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 13:23
I'm going for the Script.  I lost touch with Marillion after that.

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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 13:25
I must admit that Missplaced is a prog masterpiece for its time (middle 80s) but Script is the best Marillion album.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 14:08
Script is the album which made Marillion a "Genesis clone". Misplaced Childhood is a concept album full of good songs and is when the band became mature and started walking on its own legs, even if on a pop side. Personally I've never liked Script too much. 

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 15:02
Script....


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 15:11
From what I know from them, this are the two albums that make them the giants of prog they are, as good as anything from the 70's, in a decade when you would think you would not find prog again. I got them in a single package, and what a great way to get to know this band I had only read about before. However, I like better Script, it's just a wonderful album as a whole (even is Misplaced Childhood is a more cohesive album). For me, the two most magical moments I've heard from them are the beginning of this two albums, the title track of their debut, and the pair of songs "Pseudo Silk Kimono / Kayleigh" (even though Kayleigh is suposed to be the "hit" on the album - for good or bad - for me that song is nothing without Pseudo Silk Kimono at the beginning).


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 18:20
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Script did never grab me as much as Misplaced Childhood did.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 18:52
Script, easily.

MC is by far my least favorite Fish Marillion.

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 23 2014 at 23:34
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Clutching At Straws.
Take out Warm Wet Circles from Clutching At Straws and what remains is just an ordinary album. Take out any one song from either Script or Misplaced Childhood and both albums hold up extraordinarily well.


Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 00:20
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Clutching At Straws.
Take out Warm Wet Circles from Clutching At Straws and what remains is just an ordinary album. Take out any one song from either Script or Misplaced Childhood and both albums hold up extraordinarily well.

Agree Script > Childhood > Clutching, but At that time of the night and Slaintemath are stunning tracks too IMO. And this Kelly's solo on Just for the record...


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 01:30
Script.

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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 02:14
I like both, but I'll vote for Misplaced Childhood because it has less votes.

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 03:37
`Script' for me, I like that it has longer pieces and more aggression (although could have done with a little less falsetto! ).

`Misplaced' has a wonderful first side, and although I KNOW there's good stuff near the later part of the second half, I rarely seem to keep the disc on that long and get a little sick of it.

Both fine albums though.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 03:42
I like the darkness of Script. I loved Misplaced Childhood at the time, but now it all sounds a bit overblown and over produced. There are moments of brilliance and moments that really rub me up the wrong way; Lavender being one of them. It makes my ears cringe.

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 03:56
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:


`Misplaced' has a wonderful first side, and although I KNOW there's good stuff near the later part of the second half, I rarely seem to keep the disc on that long and get a little sick of it.

my thoughts exactly; sometimes I just listen to side A + "Blind Curve", just perfect to me. But "...Childhood" made them big and influenced/shined a light on a bunch of other guys from the genre. "Script" is my all-time favourite album, even though it has its flaws...I won't POINT at them But I simply can't listen to it too often, it's too personal for me. So it's tough, yeah, but I'd go with "Script" anyway


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 10:06
Misplaced

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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 10:42
I think script is alright... and I just can't take MC seriously.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 17:31
Not a massive fan of either but Misplaced Childhood has Blind Curve which is probably the most exceptional neo prog track of the eighties for me (although IQ's Widows Peak runs it close) so that gets my vote.


Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 18:53
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Not a massive fan of either but Misplaced Childhood has Blind Curve which is probably the most exceptional neo prog track of the eighties for me (although IQ's Widows Peak runs it close) so that gets my vote.


Blind curve is a stunning track


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: March 26 2014 at 17:15
Script



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