Worst Band ever
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Topic: Worst Band ever
Posted By: The Wizard
Subject: Worst Band ever
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 16:39
What is the worst band of all time that was quite popular?
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 16:46
The Eagles?
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 16:48
pink floyd
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 18:20
UB40. I had the misfortune of seeing them live back in the eighties with a
friend who loved them. The worst thing about UB40 is that their first
album ("Signing Off") was a very good dub LP, and quite creative, and the
second ("Present Arms") wasn't bad. Then they discovered the way to
make money was with pop reggae crap like "Red Red Wine", with those
horrible nasal vocals, and that's what they've done ever since.
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Posted By: Antreas
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 18:28
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 22:26
RUSH
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 23:05
Milli Vanilli.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:17
Though they were not popular: PORTSMOUTH SINFONIA
An orchestra of 50 musicians who could'nt play at all I laughed my ass off when i heard it first time.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:20
the Rolling Stones.
ugh.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:23
Poison.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 10:42
KISS!
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 11:38
also: Dave Matthews Band
it's not that theyre really terrible, its just that every collar-poppin' lacrosse-playin' fratboy absolutely worships them and that really annoys me.
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 11:52
ULTRA BRA från Finland. 2nd generation of 70's commie singalongs from the local bold and beutifuls.
Actually, this band made the idea of death more acceptable. There IS one place, where you don't have to listen to...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 11:57
When you die, you go to Sweden!
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Posted By: el_Sethro
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 12:41
Bowling For Soup. i never understood why that stupid song "1895" was so popular
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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 14:06
Snow Dog wrote:
When you die, you go to Sweden! |
Nah, It's more like You die if you listen to swedish commercial radio.
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 14:50
Moxy Fruvous!!!
"Once I was the king of spain (Now I eeeaaatt humble pie!)"
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 18:45
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 19:13
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 19:47
Angelwitch
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:45
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:47
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 21:13
Man With Hat wrote:
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How did I know you'd say something like this?
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 21:18
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 04:34
I like Angelwitch too...- 'Baphomet' is a brilliant track!! Mind you, some of the reviews during the NWOBHM of their first album were pretty damning.
I'd have to nominate all of the dreadful rap/dance bands (rubbish like Faithless) that have polluted the music scene for too long, and the mind-boggingly boring indie bands like Coldplay and Athlete which we are always told are 'amazing', but are frankly, not!
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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 06:22
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
ULTRA BRA från Finland. 2nd generation of 70's commie singalongs from the local bold and beutifuls. Actually, this band made the idea of death more acceptable. There IS one place, where you don't have to listen to...
| Oh, I like them. But I like also the original 70's era they are influenced by. Have you heard the songs composed by Kaj Chydenius or Eero Ojanen (performed by e.g. Agit-Prop)? - if yes, can you really say it's not gorgeous music every now and then?
I'd say that 'dance bands' like Las Ketchup is pretty much the lowest you can get. If not the teenage bands made up (that is, taught the right dance moves etc) in programmes like Pop Stars. (Bad shivers down my spine...)
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 06:28
Bon Jovi and all 80's Hair/Glam metal (Crue , Ratt , Wasp , T S and the likes).
All new wave bands not knowing how to play an instrument other than programming those ugly beatbox integrated synths (Human League etc...)
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 07:23
Sean Trane wrote:
Bon Jovi and all 80's Hair/Glam metal (Crue , Ratt , Wasp , T S and the likes).
All new wave bands not knowing how to play an instrument other than programming those ugly beatbox integrated synths (Human League etc...)
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Its not about skill in playing, its about imagination and originality!
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 07:28
Matti wrote:
Have you heard the songs composed by Kaj Chydenius or Eero Ojanen (performed by e.g. Agit-Prop)? - if yes, can you really say it's not gorgeous music every now and then? |
Sorry about my feelings. I truly HAVE heard Agit-prop. Just the style and the associations I get from their music does it for me. I'm not a rightwinger, but the Finnish Stalinist movement disgusts me as much as their opposite forces.
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Posted By: The Owl
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 09:58
Bj-1 wrote:
Though they were not popular: PORTSMOUTH SINFONIA
An orchestra of 50 musicians who could'nt play at all I laughed my ass off when i heard it first time.
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OMG!!! I heard those guys years ago, PAINFUL and yet hilarious at the same time!
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Posted By: The Owl
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 10:03
DITTO!! And I add
- Christina Gagulera
- Kenny G
- ALL boy bands, period!
- ALL Nu-Metal
- Mariah Scarey
- Sireeeeeen Dijon
- Whitney Useless
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 10:09
The Owl wrote:
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I would not want to gag her - her voice is marvellous. If only she was the singer of a prog band ...
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 10:19
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The Owl wrote:
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I would not want to gag her - her voice is marvellous. If only she was the singer of a prog band ...
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Christina needs to STFU in a big way. it's hilarious to see her prancing around in her videos like she's some skank who grew up on the mean streets of Harlem.
Shes from Wexford, PA!!!!!!
just another rich white suburb of pittsburgh. she went to North allegheny high school for god's sake, with 2000 other rich white kids!!! don't act like you have any street cred, honey. please.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 10:37
GoldenSpiral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The Owl wrote:
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I would not want to gag her - her voice is marvellous. If only she was the singer of a prog band ...
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Christina needs to STFU in a big way. it's hilarious to see her prancing around in her videos like she's some skank who grew up on the mean streets of Harlem.
Shes from Wexford, PA!!!!!!
just another rich white suburb of pittsburgh. she went to North allegheny high school for god's sake, with 2000 other rich white kids!!! don't act like you have any street cred, honey. please.
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She may be all that, but her voice is fantastic, and her technique is flawless. She even improvises a lot - listen to Car Wash. If you say that her singing sucks you're either an idiot or just ignorant. Remember, I'm talking about her voice/singing and not about her attitude, the songs she sings or the general way of life which she is promoting.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 10:42
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
GoldenSpiral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
The Owl wrote:
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I would not want to gag her - her voice is marvellous. If only she was the singer of a prog band ...
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Christina needs to STFU in a big way. it's hilarious to see her prancing around in her videos like she's some skank who grew up on the mean streets of Harlem.
Shes from Wexford, PA!!!!!!
just another rich white suburb of pittsburgh. she went to North allegheny high school for god's sake, with 2000 other rich white kids!!! don't act like you have any street cred, honey. please.
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She may be all that, but her voice is fantastic, and her technique is flawless. She even improvises a lot - listen to Car Wash. If you say that her singing sucks you're either an idiot or just ignorant. Remember, I'm talking about her voice/singing and not about her attitude, the songs she sings or the general way of life which she is promoting.
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agreed, she has quite a set of pipes. but what a bitch.
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 17:40
^ she's hot too, which is all that counts!!
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Posted By: nimrodel
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 17:53
rancid.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 18:29
I know the bassist for Poison (Bobby Dall), but he dosn't know how much I think his music sucks.
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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 01:22
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
Matti wrote:
Have you heard the songs composed by Kaj Chydenius or Eero Ojanen (performed by e.g. Agit-Prop)? - if yes, can you really say it's not gorgeous music every now and then? |
Sorry about my feelings. I truly HAVE heard Agit-prop. Just the style and the associations I get from their music does it for me. I'm not a rightwinger, but the Finnish Stalinist movement disgusts me as much as their opposite forces.
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I connect that music with idealism less than you seem to do. I have no sympathies towards communism itself (even less towards right-wing!); I listen the music as only music. The pathos in it serves for the strong emotion in music. But honestly, they were singing generally for equality of people and against unjustice all over the world. I don't think Stalin was anyone's hero - anyone's who KNEW anything, but what DID they know is another question. --- Anyway, I didn't mean only Agit-Prop, but also pure love songs ('Kalliolle kukkulalle, 'Sinua sinua rakastan' etc). Kaj Chydenius is a wonderful composer: he puts much more in 2-3 minutes than most 'schlager' songs have in 5 minutes. Of course you don't have to agree on a musical sense either.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 01:29
Kenny G is one of the worst and most overrated saxophone players and solo stars ever. AND HIS MUSIC SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 04:07
Matti: Can't say anything about the other works of Chydenius, I didn't know "Kalliolle Kukkulalle" was even his song!
But Agit-Prop was part of the communistic movement of 60's-70's supported mostly by the students of that time. IMHO their equality of men stands for the equality of working class only, and the unjustice in the world is represented by the rich people. I can't accept this view, because I can't see any other difference between people which form the labour and bourgeoise, exept that the other people have money more than the other do. Basicly they are same kind of monsters both.
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Posted By: IDDQD
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 13:14
Tony R wrote:
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The NWOBHM band? Or the other one? If it's the Metal one, I can't
imagine why you'd think so ill of them. Their S/T ranks up as among the
best of the genre. They were one of the bands that Metallica ripped
off, certainly.
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Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 22:07
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Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 17:23
definitively the Rolling Stones
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Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 17:37
I like Angelwitch's first album!
Worst band: I don't even have to hurt my brain coming up with names.
Maroon 5 (Oh, how I HATE that whiny voice!)
Nickelback
Simple Plan (even countless nites of heavy drinking and eating cheap kebab didn't enable me to produce CRAP like this)
Also my 'beloved' home country of The Nether Wastedlands has a reputation of spawning artists giving new definitions to the term 'Unlistenable'.
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 17:39
The white stripes?
The Libertines?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 19:40
all irish bands..except horslips
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Posted By: proger
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 06:32
spectral wrote:
pink floyd |
haa?!?!?
are u serious??? pink floyd? why?
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Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 06:42
Posted By: anotherbrick
Date Posted: August 16 2005 at 01:48
NSYNC hands down. I hate them!
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Posted By: anotherbrick
Date Posted: August 16 2005 at 01:49
The worst band of the 70s would have to be Journey. I could never get into them! UGH!
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 16 2005 at 19:44
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
The white stripes?
The Libertines?
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The white stripes are a great band. There just not complex and pompous like like prog music. They are a gazillon times better than todays hip hop. Music dosn't need to be complex to be good. Songwriting also counts.
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Posted By: Don_Frog
Date Posted: August 16 2005 at 23:17
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 02:00
Don_Frog wrote:
4 non blondes. |
No way.
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Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 22:12
Linkin Park
Green Day
Rolling Stones
Bruce Springsteen
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 22:45
HIM
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Posted By: 1One1
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 09:12
spectral wrote:
pink floyd |
WHAT?
NO
DIE
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 10:11
Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 19:32
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 23:49
- any rap
- tool I HATE TOOL!!
- sleepytime gorilla museum
- radiohead
- alice in chains
- eminem (see 1)
- britney
- janet jackson
- carcass
- cannibal corpse
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Posted By: The Minstrel
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:56
I hate all those child singers that think they are good, Aaron Carter, Little Bow Wow, Jesse McCartney.
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 12:04
greenback wrote:
carcass
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I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:22
3 Words: The White Stripes
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Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 13:02
When i saw this i immediately thought, Air Supply.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:48
The Owl wrote:
DITTO!! And I add
- Christina Gagulera
- Kenny G
- ALL boy bands, period!
- ALL Nu-Metal
- Mariah Scarey
- Sireeeeeen Dijon
- Whitney Useless
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:51
I agree on O-Zone,our neighbours from Moldova are just dull who happened to make a big fuss with a piece...
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:52
The Owl wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
Though they were not popular: PORTSMOUTH SINFONIA
An orchestra of 50 musicians who could'nt play at all I laughed my ass off when i heard it first time.
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OMG!!! I heard those guys years ago, PAINFUL and yet hilarious at the same time!
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Posted By: felixxx
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 15:20
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 16:08
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 21:25
Yes, for sure...
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Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 22:37
greenback wrote:
tool I HATE TOOL!!
sleepytime gorilla museum
radiohead
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Don't make me come over and kill you...
I agree with everything else on your list, however.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 22:48
M. B. Zapelini wrote:
The Cure. |
Ummmm no, the Cure are one of the best bands from the 80s.
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Posted By: super T
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 19:52
hi.this is my first ...!
omega!
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Posted By: Murdoch
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 14:56
William Hung
Titney Spears
50 Cent
Polyphonic Spree
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:07
anotherbrick wrote:
The worst band of the 70s would have to be Journey. I could never get into them! UGH! |
That's a pretty uninformed statement. Have you heard their first
three albums? Well, if you haven't theyre all prog and good at
that.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:13
all the Eurovision contest artists!!
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 18:15
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 19:50
Bj-1 wrote:
Though they were not popular: PORTSMOUTH SINFONIA
An orchestra of 50 musicians who could'nt play at all I laughed my ass off when i heard it first time.
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Awesome - so bad they were brilliant. Most couldn't play. A few could, including a former colleague of mine who is a classically trained pianist. The only problem was, in this lot she was playing the violin which she had given up at about 7. They agreed what piece they were going to murder, when they would start and when they would finish. Thereafter it was every man or woman for themselves!! Bizarrely, they sold a lot of albums.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 14:54
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed - Brian Eno was also involved with the Portsmouth Sinfonia. They were on the cutting edge of something or other and pushed a musical envelope that had never been pushed before. Mind you, I also love the sax solo on Ron Pate and the Debonair's I Talk To My Haircut, which sounds as though whoever is playing has only just figured out which end you're supposed to blow down.
For sheer unadulterated bilge received as though it's some kind of blinding divine revelation it has to be the most stupidly overrated band of the last 20 years
U2
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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 03:20
^^^ aww, you took mine.
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Posted By: faithless
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 14:27
Goldie Looking Chain
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 22:00
The Wizard wrote:
What is the worst band of all time that was quite popular? |
"...worst..." ?
"...band..." ?
"...of all time..." ?
"...popular..." ?
Hummm...
gotta flag the rolling stones on that one.
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Posted By: SenorValasco
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 15:51
Not a band but people, I couldn't abide either Celine Dion or Michael Bolton.
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Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 19:06
These guys here.....
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no comments.....
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Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: September 28 2005 at 00:25
Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: September 28 2005 at 22:07
Posted By: parrymason
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 09:59
Spice Girls, Limp Bizkit, Backstreet Boys
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 10:06
The Wizard wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
The white stripes?
The Libertines?
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The white stripes are a great band. There just not complex and pompous like like prog music. They are a gazillon times better than todays hip hop. Music dosn't need to be complex to be good. Songwriting also counts.
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If they are great songwriters then why dident they stay in the studio & wright some nice music for other bands? It irritates me that they ge that much populaity & countless masterfull prog bands Don't... But the Libs are even worse... I HATE THEM!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 10:07
Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 23:36
Die Toten Hosen...
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 13:26
I'm surprised by most of the choices here. We are talking about the worst band, not simply bad or very bad ones. My choices would be Milli Vanilli (well duh), the monstrosity known as Modern Talking, and 50% of the Polish mainstream musical scene (I repeat, mainstream, we have many world class jazz and classical acts, and some very cool prog, folk and metal).
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Posted By: Pablo_P
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:28
Polish mainstream sucks.
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