Duke or Caress Of Steel?
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Topic: Duke or Caress Of Steel?
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Duke or Caress Of Steel?
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:04
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2 more albums, both around the 3.50 rating on PA. Musically, they are very different - Duke having a very symphonic atmosphere, and more towards prog pop than rock; Caress Of Steel being a more blues-based album but bringing in much more adventurous/lengthy songs. Both are big favourites of mine, and I think they're very underrated, but my vote goes for "Duke" by Genesis. The music on there is really tight, great chemistry between the members, pretty consistent throughout. "Caress" still feels a bit incomplete to me, like they're still looking for their sound, but without a doubt a great listen and so much fun to play along to!  As always, thanks for any feedback
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:08
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Caress of Steel. Great album. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:12
| Supporting Duke here. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:16
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Tough call, but Duke. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:16
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Despite a couple of low points, I will vote for Duke. COS is a little more patchy in places, although Fountain is one of my favourite Rush tracks. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:48
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Duke by far. Caress of Steel is a good album, but I think it's probably one of Rush's lowest points. I consider Duke, however, to be one of Genesis' best, among the ranks of their classic albums ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:50
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Duke is a classic five star album, that of a band at the height of their powers. COS is an album by a band who would find greatness later. Easy choice for me. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:00
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Neither.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:19
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Duke is a very good album by a band in decline. Caress of Steel is a very good album by a band in its youth. Caress of Steel by a margin. ------------- 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:21
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Rush ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:25
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Duke is far more successful in terms of its musical aspirations and thus gets my vote. On Caress, Rush stepped out of their comfort zone. While I applaud the move, the results were mixed to say the least. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Chimaera
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 16:09
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Caress of Steel for me. I think it's an excellent album and they are one of my favorite bands. The end of side 2 is the only bit of Duke that I really like, plus Turn it on Again, one of their more bearable singles. But its' brilliant compared to everything that came after, I guess. Genesis completely sucked in the 80s.
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 16:51
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Caress Of Steel
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 16:55
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Caress ------------- |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 17:06
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Duke, easily. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 17:16
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Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: javajeff
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 18:11
| Caress of Steel is an awesome album. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 22:59
this sounds smart --except maybe more second tier best of the classics.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 23:24
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Caress of Steel is a brave album, they have the motive and means but it clacked the clarity, definition and cohesion you get on 2112. Nearly but not quite there in the larger rock composition. Fine album, Duke. I'm one of the tiny minority that like Genesis' harder and streamlined sound as they let the marvellous old days go (change returns success?) and ventured into lesser chartered waters (for prog rock bands) but on their own terms. |
Posted By: iamathousandapples
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 00:23
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Honestly I'm quite surprised at the turnout for Duke, given it's pop-soft rock leanings. It's definitely the last perfect Genesis record in my eyes. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/thamazingbender" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 01:37
| Duke has about 39 minutes of brilliant music but suffers from 3 or 4 lack lustre ballads that drag it down. I still voted for it as I hardly ever listen to that Rush album. |
Posted By: JediJoker7169
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 02:01
| I like Duke, though I'll take Caress of Steel over it most of the time. Genesis might have the better album, but my vote goes to Rush. |
Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 04:19
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Caress Of Steel by 1000 miles. If Duke is Mariana Trench, CoS is Mount Everest. Serioulsy, why comparing these albums? ------------- "Du gehst zu Frauen? Vergiss die Peitsche nicht!" |
Posted By: Chimaera
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 08:20
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Duke was also from a band going down like a ski jumper at Sochi. Caress of Steel was from a band going up like a Saturn V.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 10:10
Although not commercially. COS didn't do well at all. It was panned by the critics, sold badly on its release and the band were on the verge of being dumped by their record company. Duke sold over 500,000 copies in the UK alone within a very short time after release. It went on to sell millions. That said, I'm sure COS would have caught up dramatically after 2112 was released and re-ignited interest in Rush. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 10:24
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 10:38
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Okay, gotta go with Rush. Genesis died for me after 'And Then There Were Three'. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 11:20
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 18:26
| Duke, no doubts, Duke's Travels, Behind the lines and Duchess are enough to win. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 01:52
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When I think about it there is only one track on Rush's first 3 albums that I care about (By-Tor). As Blacksword mentions they were on the verge of giving up and so decided to do an album to suit them . 2112 was not the album the record company wanted .. well not initially anyway. I remember at school around about 1977 and 1978 , Rush were THE BAND, They were everything to a lot of spotty 15 year old kids. Genesis were on the verge of change by 1980 and Duke was in a way a sort of hedging their bets type album. It still had some prog but quite obviously it has some pop stuff aimed at radio. By 1981 they had made up their mind and moved away from prog. Better to have nice young women in the audience than a bunch of spotty teens.
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