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Topic: JJ Abrams vs. Joss Whedon
Posted By: jude111
Subject: JJ Abrams vs. Joss Whedon
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 00:38

Both did excellent TV shows, and then moved on to feature films and have made... splashy big budget epics (Star Trek, The Avengers, Mission Impossible, and, for Abrams, the upcoming Star Wars sequels). Personally I wish they'd both go back to television... At any rate, which do you prefer?

J.J. Abrams: Felicity (tv), Alias (tv), Lost (tv), Fringe (tv), Cloverfield (horror film), Super 8 (sci-fi film), Star Trek (film), Star Trek Into Darkness (film), Mission: Impossible III (film) 

Joss Whedon: Buffy the Vampire Slayer (tv series and movie), Angel (tv), Firefly (tv), Serenity (movie), The Cabin in the Woods (horror film), The Avengers (superhero movie)




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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 12:07
I like both, but Whedon has been more consistent in his work.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 12:16
Whedon easily, my biggest criticism of Abrams is that he's rarely able to fully develop his stories with the middles often getting rather bogged down or wishy-washy, though I loved the Alias series.

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 12:25
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Whedon easily, my biggest criticism of Abrams is that he's rarely able to fully develop his stories with the middles often getting rather bogged down or wishy-washy, though I loved the Alias series.

I loved Lost, although I prefer to pretend that last season never existed. Been watching Fringe lately, and am starting to get into it. What I like about Whedon are the characters he creates, and the humor. I went with Whedon because he did more stuff that I like (his tv shows, and the movie Cabin in the Woods); if Abrams hadn't done Lost, it wouldn't even been close for me.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 12:53
Abrams for me. Cool guy and Fringe is awesome. 

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 17:58
Neither for me.

Though I don't know much of Whedon's work

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 17:39
Equal for me...they both have done some excellent and some mediocre things.
Lost and Fringe are two of my favorite shows  and Angel and Firefly are two of my favorites by Whedon.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 10:52
I was a big fan of Buffy, but never got into the other TV shows by Whedon. I've read some criticism about Whedon's heroines saying he was a so-called feminist who loved to see his heroines in tears, and I thought that some arguments were aiming right.

But if you want to hear/read me saying/writing very dirty, horrible insults, thrown between two buckets of spit, just make me watch Alias, Lost or the two "Star Trek" movies by Abrahams. Good Lord. I felt insulted each time I watched his stuff.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 10:55
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Neither for me.

Though I don't know much of Whedon's work
 
 
Pretty much sums it up for me as well, although I mildly enjoyed Super 8.
 
Almost forgot: I did catch The Avengers when it ran in cinemas and was absolutely horrified of how bad it was. Sorry to all the fans here, but man......and it was the most expensive movie ever made too! Not that that says anything about quality though. I remember when Waterworld held that recordLOL I think I'd rather watch it actually....


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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 11:01
I liked Fringe (a lot) and Super 8 by JJ Abrams
I liked Dr Horrible and Avengers by Joss Whedon

I think Abrams' mismanagement of Star Trek kinda evens them out, so equal.


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 11:14
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Neither for me.

Though I don't know much of Whedon's work
 
 
Pretty much sums it up for me as well, although I mildly enjoyed Super 8.
 
Almost forgot: I did catch The Avengers when it ran in cinemas and was absolutely horrified of how bad it was. Sorry to all the fans here, but man......and it was the most expensive movie ever made too! Not that that says anything about quality though. I remember when Waterworld held that recordLOL I think I'd rather watch it actually....

I didn't like Super 8 (the first half was excellent, but the second half blew it for me), but I really liked Cloverfield.

I must admit I mildly enjoyed The Avengers, even though I generally dislike superhero movies. Having said that, I much prefer the work both Whedon and Abrams did on TV to their films. (Although Cabin in the Woods plays like a really great episode of Buffy.)


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 11:33
Wheaden. Both are good enough producers, but Wheadon is a much, much, much better writer. If it weren't for Fringe, which I love, I wouldn't even put them on the same level.


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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 11:51
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I was a big fan of Buffy, but never got into the other TV shows by Whedon. I've read some criticism about Whedon's heroines saying he was a so-called feminist who loved to see his heroines in tears, and I thought that some arguments were aiming right.

But if you want to hear/read me saying/writing very dirty, horrible insults, thrown between two buckets of spit, just make me watch Alias, Lost or the two "Star Trek" movies by Abrahams. Good Lord. I felt insulted each time I watched his stuff.
Perhaps the argument that Whedon loves to see his heroines in tears is misdirected. Jennifer Garner was pretty much in tears through the whole of AliasLOL


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 14:20
Hi,
 
Both "Firefly" and "Serendipity" were really good and well done.
 
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