Yes' shows nowadays
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Topic: Yes' shows nowadays
Posted By: fusionfreak
Subject: Yes' shows nowadays
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 12:36
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Good evening I know that Yes(a band I really appreciate)has been discussed many times but since I'm about to see them in Paris in may I would like to know if any of you saw them on stage recently.If so do not hesitate to share your good or bad memories of it.To be frank I was reluctant to get a ticket since Jon Anderson won't be on stage.But I'm quite curious about Jon Davison.By the way what do you think of Fly from here?Thanks in advance. ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 12:52
| Ask me again on 1st May and I'll let you know. |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 13:00
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YouTube is your friend, type there "Yes 2013 live" and you'll get what you can expect. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 13:37
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Thanks for your answers and suggestions.Chopper I hope you will enjoy the 1st of may. ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 13:38
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 21 2014 at 22:35
I saw them last year... or perhaps the year before. I thought it was an enjoyable show, and if you haven't seen them in their glory days (such as I  ) then this is better than nothing, I guess. Many people have praised Jon Davison for doing an excellent job, still I felt like he was just a bit short of achieving Anderson's greatness... but then again, I'm not sure Anderson himself would be able to achieve it this days. As for Geoff Downes, I feel he also fell short of Wakeman's virtuosity. I also got to see Yes with Benoit and Oliver Wakeman. As far as Benoit, I guess Davison is actually a better vocalist for the band, though I felt Benoit was a bit closer to achiving the high notes Anderson could sing, while I feel Davison has a more beautiful and special voice, plus I guess he knew his limits better and didn't try to go higher than he would sound well (plus, Davison's stage presence is much better than Benoit's). Between Oliver and Geoff, Downes is definitley the more experienced player, and more of a showman, but as far as I remember, I kind of liked better the way Oliver played, I wish they hadn't kicked him out in favor of Downes.
Now, about "Fly from Here", I actually liked the album well enough. Not among their best 70's works, nor as proggy as I would have liked it, but it is very enjoyable and has some really beautiful moments. I feel Benoit's voice shined much better on this album than trying to imitate Anderson, there were some vocal parts I really found beautiful. About the songs, the ones I liked the most, by far, were the ones from the "Fly from Here" suite, though I would hardly dare call it a single epic song, for there are 3 very notably different songs without much in common, plus an intro (or overture), an outro (or grand finale), and a bridge before the outro that didn't really do much for me... however, those 3 songs were really beautiful (specially Sad Night at the Airfield). Also the last song was really great, even if it might at times feel like they are mocking their 70's glory days and Anderson's influence. The rest of the songs are actually kind of forgetable, but those 4 songs are enough to make the album worth having. |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 03:36
------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Dellinger wrote:Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 06:10
Thanks, we're seeing them at the Cliffs Pavilion on 30th April. I've not heard the new guy yet so it will be interesting, hopefully he will get on better than Trevor Horn who nearly gave himself a hernia trying to reach the high notes.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 06:12
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Here is a review of the show I saw. http://riekels.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/yes-detroit-4122013/" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/yes-detroit-4122013/ ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 11:45
------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 16:59
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Hi,
I saw the best YES, EVER, when I saw them in Long Beach do the Tales from Topographic Oceans.
I, honestly, have no desire, or interest, in seeing YES again, after what is, in my book, the greatest piece of "classical" music of our time done with rock instruments and designed by 5 kids our age!
Some of the clips are nice. But you know what? The original was heaven! And yeah, I was lucky, but I was not going to pass up on this show, and didn't. I knew it would be special, and in many ways, it was better (musically) than Pink Floyd's The Wall show. PF's was about bombarding your imagination. YES, used the music instead, to take you to places, that you will never see or feel again in your life, if you close your eyes.
I don't know that there is that much music out there that can do that! Lyrics are not enough. You have to have more! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: February 22 2014 at 19:22
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I have seen Yes in the 70s, 80s, and then in 2012 with Jon Davison. You will never beat the 70s classic Yes lineup, I saw them perform the entire Close to the Edge album in the first set, then they did the entire Tales from Topographic Oceans in the second set (along with some of their hits they had at the time). Blown away! But I have to say I really enjoyed them in 2012 better than the 80s band with Mr. Anderson. They played the Fly From Here Suite only off of that album (which I like) and the rest was all 70s classic stuff! Downes was good enough for me and Jon Davison was amazingly perfect! ------------- 
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 11:38
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I saw them on the 90125 tour and it was awful. Crappy and tinny 80s sound, a shocking setlist and metal Rabin guitar solos. One of my biggest concert disappointments ever.
Fortunately I will be seeing them again in May too and am looking fwd to it very much. I expect Davision will be able to do a better job than Anderson now. A shame no Wakeman, but there you go. With 3 great albums to be played in their entirety (Yes Album, CTTE and my fave GFTO) this should be awesome. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 11:42
I enjoyed that 90125 tour!  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 11:52
| To be fair Steve the venue probably didn't help. The Birmingham NEC is not what I'd describe as acoustically brilliant. |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 12:17
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Thanks again for various appreciations and feelings.I know what to expect and I think I will have a very good time. ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 12:31
 No, definitely not. However, I was lucky to get tickets at the front, and loved it.------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 13:13
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Couldn't find an actual Yes general thread so I'm using a recent one. Interesting response from Patrick Moraz in an interview....wth to the bolded? - Were you forced to leave or parting company was friendly? Unfortunately, I was forced to leave. And even though, at the time,
the split “was not made to appear acrimonious”, I suffered extremely and
extensively. To be “asked to leave” so suddenly put me in a lot of
turmoil and disturbance. The fact is, I was never compensated for
anything. I never ever got paid for any of my tour participation in the
extremely successful and extensive YES Tour of 1976, which comprised
about 65 concerts, many of them in front of sold-out audiences of more
than 100,000 people. After all, as a member of the band, I was entitled
to a 20% cut from what the band was getting. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 15:14
And I think this was the backbreaker that told me I was no longer interested in YES anymore, because it was just an idea, and it was not an honest idea!
Sorry! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:40
I saw Yes for the first time 22 September, 1972 - CTTE tour! I'm sorry Bruf wasn't drumming, but the band was outstanding! Back to matters at hand - I could have seen Yes with Ollie and Benoit, and I agree with D's observations and thoughts. Ollie's presence in the band excited me, as I was hoping for an evolution of Yes to a new generation of musicians who would be able to carry the band's vision into the future. However, the vision of Squire and Howe seems to be to milk the thing for all they can, so I stayed away from those shows, not wishing to sully my memories. I find that YouTube is full of good representations of these latest generations. Davison is very good, from the bits I've seen on YouTube, and I think this will be a very well-polished and enjoyable show, better than the Benoit David era. He's not JA, but no one is. I'm willing to bet that the new material with Davison will be quite good, and I'm hoping Billy Sherwood will replace Squire someday. My friend took this at a "Relayer" show we saw in Chicago, I saw that tour twice. There was no band as amazing as Yes when they were young and in their prime!  |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 30 2014 at 22:56
I have hardly enjoyed what Sherwood has done with Yes and Squire... and his other projects. His writing seems uninspired (though sometimes a bit enjoyable, but nothing worthy of the legendary satus of Yes), and his vocal melodies can get very tiresome, (for they all sound the same)... I mean, come on, he even managed to make Annie Haslam sound terribly bad and generic on his Prog Collective album. A few weeks ago I checked out a few Circa's songs, though, and I thought it sounded a bit better than what I've heard from him before, I might try to give it a try (though it's kind of difficult to get those albums, being they are only available through their own website, and once I tried to make an account with them and they asked to fill more information than I was willing to give). However, the thing is, I actually liked his bass playing a lot on those songs from Circa, and I guess he would sound very nice taking Squire's place, as long as he stays clear from songwriting... and specially from the vocal melodies parts (which I truly doubt he would be willing to do). |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 30 2014 at 23:37
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^Thanks, Dellinger! My thoughts about Billy Sherwood track yours closely. I've liked what little of Circa that I've heard, but I'm not impressed with the Squire/Sherwood project "Conspiracy." However, he is a legit former Yes-man, so if he were to have a shot at bassist, I'd be fine with that. Guitarists who could succeed Howe are out there, I wonder who would make sense? I've seen video of John Patrucci and Steve Howe together onstage, and JP ran rings around SH!
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Posted By: Matheusms
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 04:36
| I saw them in Brazil last year, can say that I liked it a lot. But, of course, given that I've never saw them live before, it may be product of a overreaction. Anyway, these old geezers played Yes Album, CTTE and GFTO in perfect shape, almost like if they were dubbing the records in stage. I don't know what kind of setlist they're playing right now but I must say that I saw my near perfect live Yes setlist (would only trade GFTO for Relayer). My criticism goes to Alan White drumming, it sounded very weak to me, not in terms of technique but in terms of excitement. The rest of the band was on fire, Steve Howe was visibly enjoying the whole thing, only White seemed a little tired. Anyway, it was one of the best concerts of my life, only second to The Wall in 2012. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 07:57
I thought White was very subdued on the last album. It'll be interesting to hear what he's like on the tour.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 11:21
For the life of me, I don't know why the founding members don't cultivate "understudies" who will eventually take their places, keeping the Yes franchise going into the future. Various members have discussed a "future times" Yes in interviews. Drumming is a rough sport.....Bill Bruford is completely retired, and White may not be far behind. It is possible to play guitar into the 80's (I saw Andres Segovia a few years before he passed, he was like a balding, gray Robert Fripp with a classical guitar!!). I'm still not at all impressed with Downes on keys, but he can handle anything from the Yes album I'm sure. Ollie was the type of person I had hoped would remain in Yes. As far as vocals, they could be more creative & bring on a young woman. Annie Haslam and Christina Booth both have shown how lovely Yes' music is with a female voice, and Glass Hammer is 'way out in front by bringing in ladies on their CDs. Dragging out tribute band singers & sound-alikes is just so "been there, done that" in rock.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 11:50
| I cringe at the term "Yes franchise". |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 11:55
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 22:43
Yeah, I guess Petrucci would have the chops to replace Howe, but I don't think he would be interested, since DT itself is big enough. Plus, I don't think he has the inclination to play acoustic guitar, which would be important for me in a Yes guitar player. As a matter of fact, I would think anyone from Dream Theater would have the chops to take his place within Yes, except perhaps LaBrie, but that's more a matter of taste on my part than his singing ability. However, the one Dream Theater member that I think would fit perfectly with Yes is Jordan Rudess... and now he is up to playing with Jon Anderson (though I hope not in the DT stile, but more like what he did in Grace for Drowning). |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 22:46
For their next tour, it seems they will be playing the whole Fragile and Close to the Edge, plus some other highlights and some songs from the new album. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: April 03 2014 at 00:29
Sorry, poor choice of words! More like the London Symphony Orchestra, founded in 1904 and going strong. No reason that a rock band cannot do something similar, as long as they stay true to the spiritual roots of the founding members. And that would be a problem....I think many fans are attracted to both the lyrical mysticism of Jon Anderson, and the technical brilliance of the others. Without Anderson, it is a rather empty exercise, although many bands have been able to progress and evolve with their lyrics. King Crimson and Genesis both did this successfully.
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Posted By: The Sloth
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 16:09
| Yes haven't exactly stayed true to their own roots. I side with the arguement that says they should do one last grand tour with everyone involved, and call it a day. |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 20:46
I cringe as well. As someone said a few years ago, Yes has become their own tribute band. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Sloth
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 21:47
| As painful as it is, it was Bruford who said Yes is now their own trubute band. |