CD Gripes!
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Topic: CD Gripes!
Posted By: Snow Dog
Subject: CD Gripes!
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 07:04
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I get so frustrated when CD companies or whoever is responsible when they change the track splitting on an album! Let me explain. Works Vol 1 by ELP, The Piano Concerto. Three seperate movements combined on Cd to one track!!!! Would you ever see that on a Classical CD? Tarkus by same band, on vinyl clearly seperate tracks, even my CD has seperate tracks, but I know that there are many reissues with it as one track!! Another thing too....On the original vinyl Ommadawn, by Oldfield, Part 1 had a FIVE MINUTE fade out, sadly greatly reduced on CD!!! Anyone else got examples of similar sort of stuff? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 07:30
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This is one of my favourite gripes Snow Dog. It just goes to show that record companies don't know their own product. For instance, which idiot cut the cough off the end of "In my time of dying" on Physical Graffiti? I'm doing this from memory but I believe "Olias Of Sunhillow" has the last few tracks lumped together as one. Rush is a strange example (I thought Hemispheres was all one track on vinyl, but I bow to your superior knowledge). When I bought my first CD player many years ago, it had an index button. The only CD I could ever use it on was 2112. The first side was all one track, but if you pressed the index button, it would jump to the next section. Quite useful if there are bits of 2112 you don't like. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 07:36
Chopper, on the remastered Physical Graffiti the cough has been returned! As for Hemisphere, I'm sure that if you look at the album you can see the seperate tracks. You have casyt doubt on this though so I'll go to me attic and check it out! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 07:44
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The cough is back!! Hooray, I might have to go and buy it again now. My copy of Hemispheres is also in the attic. I've remembered another thing about this track. On the vinyl the vocals on the ending acoustic guitar bit start off split on each side of the stereo and gradually merge into one as Geddy sings the last line "single, perfect sphere". Great effect, but it seems to have disappeared almost entirely on my CD version. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 16:13
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ELP - Brain Salad Surgery - Karn Evil 9 (all four parts of the song is lumped in to one 30 minute track on some versions) It didn't actually bother me, but it can be irritating if you want to skip one of the parts of the song.
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 16:33
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What I miss is the run out track on an LP, which provided continuous looping, until the styllus was lifted off the disc, e.g. (an album we discussed recently) Kevin Ayers' Whatevershebringswesing, had the sound of water falling over the wheel of a water mill - quite hypnotic. James Gang 's Yer Album had the instruction: Turn Me Over at the end of side 1 and Play Me Again at the end of side 2 - which I guess repeated enough times would get the dopeheads eventually acting on it. Indeed Sgt Pepper had a runout, which repeated only a few times was enough to move you out of your seat. What is the CD answer to this: the hidden track. Not so hidden when the liner notes tell you have X tracks and your CD player tells you have X+1 tracks OR the liner notes tell you the last track is (for instance) 4 minutes long but the CD player says 20............. One thing I miss is the chance of another of the joke LPs, of the sort Python released as (i think) Contractual Obligations Album, which had 3 track starts on one side. So it was almost impossible to find a particular sketch part way through the side, because the styllus would be placed on the wrong groove. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 17:21
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Ah yes, the runout in Sgt Pepper. Isn't that the one that said "F**k
you like Superman" or something when played backwards? Don't forget the
noise for dogs as well. The "hidden" track on CDs. There is one CD, I think it was Robbie Williams or World Party, that had about 15-20 minutes of silence before the hidden track which you couldn't skip over. I remember that Monty Python album as well. Was there really 3 tracks? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 19:03
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As far as I remember. there were two tracks on one side and one on the other! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: August 05 2005 at 22:40
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I hate when cds have secret tracks that have like 20 minutes of silence between them and you can't just skip through em!!! my band put a secret track on ours, but we had it a seperate track, and there was only like 30 seconds of silence!! they should do that. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 06 2005 at 10:26
Ok, been to the attic and checked it out. There are definintely seperate tracks on Side 1 of hemispheres! What suprised me though is that Tarkus is one unbroken track! My Cd has sepearate tracks, although I know that some issues have them as one! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 15:23
| For something like Tarkus or 2112, it's probably better if they are separate tracks on the CD, then you can skip the bits you don't like. |