Censorship
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Topic: Censorship
Posted By: Chris S
Subject: Censorship
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 02:10
Roger Waters - The Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking cover has been censured.....Well, well, well I thought the old apartheid regime had long died but apparently not. " They sell Pepsi in the Andes.....it's a miracle" It is all about advertising revenue folks, how low or high will you go? ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 02:38
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We're working on it Chris. I would like to say: "well, at least they've not put fig-leaves on bronze statues".... but alas...
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 02:43
and now check at Roxy Music's Country Life   how rediculous------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 02:58
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Hey, boobies! Just like what girls got!
This is f**king pathetic and ridiculous. Guess we better get that nude video of Andy Latimar swinging naked on a wrecking ball taken down right away too. 
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 03:09
Mmm, controversial issue but we've got cautioned by  someone.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 03:10
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if anything, the blurring of Country Life just makes it worse ------------- What? |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 03:14
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^ And that MUST notify us something por ... g ...
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 03:29
Just looked at that myself, it makes them look more nude than ever!
Those wicked girls! 
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Dean wrote:Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 03:32
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Max has a lot of work infront of him. Is this happening in MMA as well? I haven't seen this happening in any other site. I think it's much more offensive bluring someone's art work than presenting it, I mean come on it's not that it is pornography or anything even remotely close. But maybe he should have started with http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9508" rel="nofollow - this Outrageous anyway! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 03:40
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Has the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center" rel="nofollow - PMRC been frequenting PA lately? ------------- 
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 04:10
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Amazon.com don't censure their covers. Maybe the owner has a new spiritual path, I cannot see advertorial's being withdrawn as a valid threat either............out jezebel Maybe the sites gonna be sold to Magic School Bus & Co and needs to be squeaky clean ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 04:41
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The site costs money to run. Visitors to the site currently consume 4TB of data a month - that is a huge bandwidth that has to be paid for. Add to that the cost of the maintenance and storage and leasing. Unless we charge for usage (yeah, right, like that's gonna work) or find a sponsor (not a good idea) then Google Ads are the only viable way of paying for it. So yes, threat of withdrawal of adverts is very serious and very valid. The violation warning notice Max received from Goolge AdSense is very real. If we lose Google Ads we lose the site - plain as. Personally, I think Google Ads are over reacting and Max is being over-cautious, we need to balance the need for complying with Google's Terms and Conditions and being sensible about it. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 04:53
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Very fair, Dean.
It's a shame that the Google Adsense can't tell the difference between erotic imagery and outright pornography. Also, I very much doubt that there's many young kids looking into the world of progressive rock that could potentially be offended.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 04:59
Google's guidelines can be read here: http://adsense.blogspot.ie/2011/08/policy-tips-keeping-network-family-safe.html" rel="nofollow - http://adsense.blogspot.ie/2011/08/policy-tips-keeping-network-family-safe.html btw: Max was given 3 days to comply, we are currently on Day 2 ------------- What? |
Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 05:16
| I'm not sure about possible conflict with the law for cover art modifications. Maybe at least some explanation, that picture of cover not match with original? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 05:22
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 05:23
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Sign of the times.....the cyber world continues to dumb down everything and privacy laws get more enforced (Lack of privacy). Return to good old country style living, no smartphones, no Internet, no TV.....just good old communes, free love and sharing of ideas. Google is worse than FB now.....enemies of the state, maximize advertising revenues in cyberspace and put a stranglehold on businesses......Bullets for brains In South Africa in the 70's we had a magazine called Scope. Yes it was mainly targeted towards the male population and the middle pages had these voluptuous white only ladies with their nipples replaced by stars Well this is just as ridiculous and if Adsense has no measure of what is good or bad nudity then so be it. We are clearly so insignificant in the broad scheme of things there must be thousands of web owners panicking about falling revenues so lets start censuring reference to sex or drugs in songs too....ban the Beatles and Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds.......come on I dare you.Or is Google purely concerned with the visual impact only? Hypocrisy methinks...they only care about the aspect associated with revenues. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 05:31
What you currently see is a quick-fix, Max is working on a better solution. ------------- What? |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 05:35
Hypocrisy indeed. Some of their ads can compete in loathsomeness with the explicit cover artwork on some albums. I do not like most of these covers, blurred or not, but what really bugs me is that these s can impose content modifications on site owners  .-------------
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Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 06:31
Google's guidelines: "... or provocative poses (even if clothed) that have sexually gratifying overtones. "
(sorry
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 06:52
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There you go Jim... told you. ------------- What? |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 06:57
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Well I for one visit the "What Are You Listening To" thread on a daily basis just to arouse my prurient interest. Doesn't everybody? ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 08:04
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 08:09
 because Amazon don't use Google Adsense on their site.------------- What? |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:00
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Yeah can we replace Google AdSense with another ad that can permit our reliability?
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:04
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We are looking for alternative solutions to PIXELISATION / BLURRING. ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:06
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7103" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7103 Is our ProgArchives' offer "buy .... on ebay" (with visible covers)) tolerable by Adsence?
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:35
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:44
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Dean, the loss of vivaciousness and curves on your beautiful redhead makes me want to find a corner and cry in... Oh there it is  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:47
I am not happy, that ProgArchives is in this situation dictated by dependence on Adsence
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:49
| Stinks. |
Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 09:59
I think, that Dean can get back his nice signature, because it is so innocent
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:00
Actually PA is more dictated by it's high servers costs and bandwith usage  ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:01
I know. He's merely rebelling a bit like we all are doing. This is not something we ever wished for, believe you me. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:09
MY pin-up will remain pixelated in quiet protest until Felona e Sorona is restored to its original glory I'd like to make it clear that I personally cannot support, condone, endorse, defend, justify or enforce any censorship of album covers. Any comments I make here in this thread regarding the whys and wherefores of the current situation are simply to support Max in whatever he has to do to resolve this and to explain why this is happening. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:13
Count me in on this. The first thing I made clear when this was brought to the attention of the admins, was that I would have absolutely nothing to do with the enforcement of it. Seeing Felona e Sorona chastised like this makes my stomach turn  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:26
 If parents don't want their kids to be exposed to such smut, then maybe it is their responsibility to supervise them and limit their access to the Internet. I assume that on the bright side that means that many internet news sites will no longer be doing stories about Miley Cyrus' twerking or for that matter anything involving the Kardashians since they won't want to lose their Google ad revenue.
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:39
FELONA E SORONA has been restored it was a bit radical to pixel it http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2302" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2302
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:41
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:42
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Maybe I can restore BLACK SABBATH's one too ;-) ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:43
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I think that's probably safe too. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 10:59
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I see that breasts are out but what about willies? Are willies out? Or bottoms? What about bottoms are they out? Male Nipples are they out? Cleavage? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 11:01
Whatever Google finds sexually explicit is probably the best answer to your query. I'm not expecting this to follow any kind of logic though. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 11:03
THE ETERNAL IDOLRestored http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16789" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16789------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 11:07
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Nice. At least this is going in the right direction. Now we just need Google to kick out their Amish firing squad ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 11:08
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May as well forget it Max? How can you predict what 'Google' finds sexually explicit. (Nothing here as far as I can see but I'm not a search engine) Its ART. Its like burning books. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 11:13
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The mind truly boggles. As usual we will go from one extreme to another, I.e. From a situation where porn is absolutely available to anyone who wishes to view to the other extreme where valid pieces of art are censored. Why can't any of the idiots who run the world ever get things like this right? ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 11:38
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I would say that advertisers (client of google) ask for that ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 12:45
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I suspect that is not the case. I find it highly unlikely that any of Google's advertisers would trawl the internet looking for John Zorn soundtrack albums - or any other obscure prog albums. My guess (and everything concerning Google Ads is a guess) is that it is the Google robot and the AdSense's algorithms that determine whether the images and content contravene their terms and conditions. Since we know for certain that at least one other website has "censored" Zorn's Filmworks XXI (albeit only for Japan) it is a fair assumption that the cover image has been flagged in the Google database and was the trigger here. ------------- What? |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:07
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I'm not very savvy on the ways of the intenet....how is it possible that Google is censoring images on PA. ? Are all the album images/artwork here uploaded from Google..? 
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:14
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:17
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Very well simplify Dean ! ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:23
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You haven't considered the compromise RateYourMusic have where work-unsafe cover art is blocked for unregistered users but can be displayed as opt-in for users who are logged on? Or do the Google advertisting guidelines not allow that either?
------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:23
Surely the 'will' should be 'may' cut off....? I just can't see them doing this. Is there a case where they have done it to another site? I can't see it would make good publicity for Google if it gotinto the press that Google were demanding of a music site that it removed/censored Roxy Music album covers. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:26
Do I really want to go that way ?  ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:29
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As the initial victim of this medieval witch hunt, I grudgingly complied with M@x's request and changed my beloved Country Life avatar to RM's debut (I am a devout Roxy fan) but with the gallant explanation effort underway (thank you dean and M@x) , I decided to reinstate- in protest - with the 'Blurred girls ' avatar (soundtrack supplied by John Foxx) until someone sane at Google Ads realizes the difference between art and porn. By their year 1300/Torquemada standards, the Mona Lisa is hinting at some lewd behavior ! Every Greco-Roman statue in every museum is thus deemed pornographic? Really ! I shudder for our future, at this rate....
I love my new signature below
------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:44
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 13:52
The Roxy Music covers were not mentioned, Max is being understandably cautious as these have been the subject of censorship in the (distant) past. ------------- What? |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:03
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For those of you wondering what happened with “Country Life”
when it was released in the mid-70s , most UK vinyl LPs arrived first as imports (at high
price) and were then replicated locally in Canada and USA. The first pressing
on Country Life had the ‘German girls” cover and was then, protested by the “US
Bible Belt conservative hawks” crowd as being “lewd”. The remaining pressings
were returned to the US and Canadian manufacturers and an opaque grey cellophane
replaced the offending translucent one, which only created more demand (to see
what was behind, a trick done later with Led Zep and a few others). The next
pressing removed completely the two female figures, leaving just the highly
suggestive foliage. To think that conservative Britain had no problem with art
in the 1970s and the puritan US did is a sad state of affairs. By the 80s, the
CD version of Country Life had the original artwork (I stress the word ARTWORK),
as there is nothing remotely lewd in the mannerisms of the two ladies in
question. There are US albums (ESPECIALLY THE HAIR METAL ONES) that have highly
shocking cover art which does not seem to bother the censors. Like “Houses of the Holy’? UFO’s “Force It”? Scorpions
“Virgin Killer”! So what about the 3 Flash albums, or Wilding-Bonus- Pleasure
Signals? Are they less offensive then Country Life? Kidnapping and bondage are serious crimes in
the USA , so is Sparks’ Propaganda cover dangerous territory? I just keep wondering about Einstein’s comment about the two
infinites : the universe and the human condition. ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:19
I can see why Max would be concerned. But many albums here have images of nudity or a sexual nature. But where do you stop with blurring images (lines). THe GonG album is a case in point. Someone might find this crosses the Google line. Were Google explicit in which images were ringing their sexy bells? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:26
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So the blurring of the pictures only serves to drive people's desire to see the unaltered image. Proof that Adsense makes the heart grow fonder. Thank you. I'm here all week. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:36
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Is the blurred phallic image on Brain Salad Surgery sufficiently blurred or does it need to be blurred further?... and for that matter, Love Beach probably should be blacked out. -------------
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:47
Yep, if we're talking 'lewd' 'provocative' 'sexually gratifying overtones' the Love Beach meets all those sexually charged criteria ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 14:52
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:07
Is it ok if I change my avatar to this? |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:13
  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:37
Ooh 'er missus! Ban it now ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:42
The RYM option where you have to actively register to see censored artwork is pretty good IMO. Of course it doesn´t hinder a 13 old boy lying about his age to see the censored pics, but at least he´ll have to consider it... ...personally I absolutely loathe censorship and will do anything in my power to fight it, but I fully understand why Max is forced to act on the Google threat...the whole situation still makes me sick though I can´t even start to imagine what impact it will have on MMA, where there are tons of images that might be considered offensive by some...------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:49
| Too many prog albums with too many rear ends. Don't envy you this task. |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:52
Probably is the solution here too. ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 15:59
Well, I never knew quite how much filth there is on this site. (ooh er missus). ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 18:16
All are making a strong protest against some AdSense through blurrrrrring their avatars.
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 18:42
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The ONE TIME M@X actually does something... ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 18:46
What I don't understand is that some of the ads on here are as bad as the album covers that are being blurred out. Yet there's no way those ads will be blurred out right ? Didn't think so. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 18:57
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John, photo shop her dress down a little please.....you can see her panties
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 21:04
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Outrageous! ------------- 
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 22:12
 ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 22:15
Well there is suggestive ads yes ( i don't like them )... but the nudity in cover art are causing problems ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 22:32
Can someone please hide this filth :
Incroyable!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 22:40
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^ Disgraceful! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 22:50
Who goes to Prog Archives to see porn? ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 22:59
 ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 10 2013 at 23:47
By the Way, smartpatrol, your avatar is sheer filth , an abomination , a slap to the face of respectable human beings who believe in grace and gentle elegance, because that's what big companies now want = 'SEX Does NOT Sell"  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 02:37
 excellent choice of avatar Marco ------------- What? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 02:55
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^ Indeed, those birds are most assuredly naked. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 02:57
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Frightfully so.... ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 05:48
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Good morning guys, I've seen a couple of new avatar (smartpatrol), problably in protestation and I understand , but i've been thinking about this and if we succeed in implementing something non-intrusive for covert art in the discography section, but we still show AVATAR next to reviews in album pages and collaborator page, we are not going in the right direction for avatar that are "non Google AdSense approved" . So this left me 2 choices: - We accept only 'approved' avatar, signature you can put whatever you want , as you as it respectable - We remove all the places on the discography part that show avatar next to review Any thoughts ? ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 06:32
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I'd prefer not to have to 'approve' avatars. I don't see the need for the avatar to be shown by the review. However, I do appreciate that some people do like the vainglory. Now that Andrew (smartpatrol) is 13 years old he is old enough and responsible enough to know whether an avatar is appropriate or not given a simple set of guidelines to follow. If he can manage this simple task then anyone can. So... the test is: can he change his avatar (without any clues or assistance) all by himself, or are we going to force the Admins to become avatar-police? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 12:16
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I'm not sure what folks would think of it, but personally then I don't really care if my avatar shows beside my review. Doesn't matter to me. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 12:28
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I'll change the avatar if you want. I haven't even heard the album, anyway.
------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 12:45
 
Just wondering if the one on the right is any more "PROPER' than the one on the left ? This is where the worry settles in, who decides this , Google ads and its algorithms? Ban both? I just do not know how M@X can get this done....... ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 12:53
Nice Boobies! ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 12:54
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^^I feel you Thomas, I really do - and it bugs the hell out of me to be honest. I hate the fact that a site dealing with what I personally think of as being one of the most beautiful sonic movements inside rock now seems vulnerable to some haphazard ping pong algorithm out there in the web. I certainly won't lose the site over it, but it pains me to see society and it's parameters boiled down to machinery when the touch of a humane presence is obviously more in need of. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 14:00
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Maybe I should explain myself better. I feel most of the releases on this site feature a carefully crafted symbiosis of music and imagery - one that is as important to the actual content, as the cover to a book. To see these worlds unattached is to me shameful. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:14
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Idiotism has no borders (I tell of the world's tendency to hide breasts, cocks etc). It seems the veil will be the only accepted clothes soon. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:25
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------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:31
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Back to medieval centuries. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:34
...other than that: Rule #34 ------------- What? |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:45
 ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 11 2013 at 15:52
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^ we've already done statues. Do keep up. ------------- What? |