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Topic: Gravitsapa (Ukraine) for Avant ProgPosted By: Svetonio
Subject: Gravitsapa (Ukraine) for Avant Prog
Date Posted: September 19 2013 at 05:32
Replies: Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 19 2013 at 05:41
You cannot stop for even just a few days can you?
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 19 2013 at 09:16
Dean wrote:
You cannot stop for even just a few days can you?
OK no problem to slown down my sugestions as I always did when The Special Colaborators asked me that, but what about this awesome band from Ukraine which is already suggested?
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 19 2013 at 09:25
If you can provide some real information about this band then they may be considered, otherwise we are just going to ignore them.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 19 2013 at 11:35
Dean wrote:
If you can provide some real information about this band then they may be considered, otherwise we are just going to ignore them.
That's all what I find on the web about the band.
I don't know Ukraine nor Russian language, so I'm not able to check their sites.
I'm really sorry, Dean.
Well, what to do.... I hope that somebody else will make a better suggestion of Gravitsapa than I already did.
p.s. there are several more Gravisapa's live recorded videos at Youtube, though.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 19 2013 at 12:20
^ This just one of the many points I have been trying to make - if these bands have such a tiny web-presence then they are not the kind band we are looking for, if the only web-footprint they have was created by themselves then we should not be forced to spend any time on them, if no other progressive rock archive, review site or forum mentions them then we do not need to be the first, if their following on the social networks is non-existant (or less than 100ish people) then they are the modern equivalent of "unsigned" and nothing to do with us.
Sorry to be so blunt, but that is how it is. If you cannot find any information on them, then we will not be able to either - we have no special researching skills, we have to spend our free time searching the internet for information that isn't there.
The situation now is a small amatuer band who plays to 20 people in a village hall in the back of beyond (just outside Basingstoke) can be on Bandcamp and SoundCloud, and have a YouTube channel and Facebook, MySpace and LastFM pages - and you find them and suggest them here and we reject them, after we've spent time giving them the same evaluation as we would give a professional, signed band that has a following of 1000s of fans. The difference between those two bands is not in Bandcamp, or YouTube or Facebook - it is in the rest of the internet - it is the fan pages and the unsolicited reviews of their work, it is in the gig-guides and album releases. The other band will have a web-presence that they did not create themselves, the local village band with only 20 fans will not.
You cannot find any information on Gravitsapa because they have a tiny web presence, they do not have any web-content they did not create themselves, and that is as good as saying they are "unsigned" as far as the PA is concerned.
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Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 04:47
Hi, Svetonio, thanks for the suggestin Gravitsapa to the Prog Archives.
Hi, Dan. I am a member of Gravitsapa. Svetonio asked me to give some information about my band.
Here it is:
-genre: math rock, avant-prog, experimental rock
-bio:
Gravitsapa is a Ukrainian band formed in 2005. The band recorded two
mini-albums: Radio Free Albemuth in 2009, which was released in 2013 by
HYSM? label under the name Free Radio Taxipod, and Vulgata also released
by labels HYSM? and Skrot Up in 2013.Gravitsapa is a Ukrainian band
formed in 2005. The band recorded two mini-albums: Radio Free Albemuth
in 2009, which was released in 2013 by HYSM? label under the name Free
Radio Taxipod, and Vulgata also released by labels HYSM? and Skrot Up in
2013.
Listeners and critics praised Gravitsapa as the pioneers of the
Ukrainian math-rock stage perfoming among the most brightful
experimental sounds.
The band has taken its namе after the Soviet cult film "Kin-Dza-Dza!"
depicting post-apocalyptic anti-Utopia. The major theme of Gravitsapa's
work can be described in three words: mysticism, sci-fi and absurdness.
Loyalty to a one style is not an attitude to music for Gravitsapa. "A
one successful experiment performed in a track to be not repeated in the
other" seems to be the band's motto. Only eternal escape from the
cliché, emission of otherworldly atmosphere and attempts to create music
as a tool to enter a trance.
At this stage the band is moving towards Shostakovich-rock and neo-neoshamanism.
Vulgata - 2013
01. Our home Antarctida (3:37)
02. Under the Poltva (3:19)
03. Cramola (2:42)
04. It's Unicron. The first initiation (2:04)
05. We all (5:57)
- influences:
Jim Black, Sergei Prokofiev, Dmitri Shostakovich, Igor Stravinsky, Georgy Sviridov, Robert Fripp
P.S. Maybe I missed something, please correct me (if it is still relevant). Best regards
Sasha Jabovsky [email protected]
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 04:50
sorry, one link is not working ... now it's ok http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com/radio-free-taxipod-gravitsapa/" rel="nofollow - http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com/radio-free-taxipod-gravitsapa/
(EDIT: Please replace the aster with "i". )
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 04:53
the problem is of obscene name of the site http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 18:09
Welcome Sasha.
I've checked your stuffs (good ones indeed) and felt they can be fitter for Math than Avant.
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: December 15 2013 at 03:43
bump
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 15 2013 at 17:11
Hi Sasha, thanks for the bump - never saw this thread back in September when it was passed to the Math Team - i apologize.
I'll will start listening to the albums on your bandcamp and update here once done. Thanks again for your patience your aid.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 16 2013 at 13:58
Alrighty. Honestly while i hear some Math influences, like Sasha mentioned to call this band "just" MR isn't doing them justice.
Unless there is someone that strongly disagrees, i say Eclectic is a better fit.
Them labeling themselves as a mix of Math-rock, avant, and experimental rock is pretty damn accurate. Just my opinion. Other thoughts or listeners?
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 17 2013 at 00:47
Horizons wrote:
Alrighty. Honestly while i hear some Math influences, like Sasha mentioned to call this band "just" MR isn't doing them justice.
Unless there is someone that strongly disagrees, i say Eclectic is a better fit.
Them labeling themselves as a mix of Math-rock, avant, and experimental rock is pretty damn accurate. Just my opinion. Other thoughts or listeners?
No, not Eclectic Prog.
They are Avant.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 17 2013 at 01:11
Arguing about where bands fit is not helpful and only adds to the time taken to evaluate them. We do not seek the exact fit but a best fit - if a band is worthy of addition and can fit in one of two, three or four subgenres then it does not matter which one they go in - let the reviews speak for the music, that is why we are here after all - reviewing albums not piddling about pigeon-holing bands into musicological subcategories.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:43
Makes sense, my bad.
Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there. Whenever the artist is added i'll add the albums and whatnot.
Thanks again, Dean.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 17 2013 at 23:12
Horizons wrote:
(...) Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there (....)
Math is OK. Cheers, Horizons! Sasha, congratulations on your entry in Prog Archives
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2013 at 01:38
Horizons wrote:
Makes sense, my bad.
Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there. Whenever the artist is added i'll add the albums and whatnot.
Thanks again, Dean.
Only if you think they can fit in Math.
I said:
Dean wrote:
if a band is worthy of addition and can fit in one of two, three or four subgenres then it does not matter which one they go in.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2013 at 01:39
Svetonio wrote:
Horizons wrote:
(...) Alrighty, if they were passed to Math then let's just add them there (....)
Math is OK. Cheers, Horizons! Sasha, congratulations on your entry in Prog Archives
Not so fast - wait for the team to decide, not the opinion of one person. This is a democratic process.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 18 2013 at 03:11
Let the reviews speaks for the music.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 18 2013 at 03:13
Svetonio wrote:
Let the reviews speaks for the music.
Stop being a dick.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 18 2013 at 12:49
Sorry for the delay, i was listening some more just in case. I think they are fit to have a home in Math. In this case it's just not straight-ahead MR, it has it's flavors of other things but i think MR can be seen as the defining genre. So i'll give the thumbs up for addition to MR.
Thank you for the patience.
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Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: December 21 2013 at 17:32
Hello everybody. Let me tell you about our (Gravitsapa) tags. 1. http://www.lastfm.ru/music/Gravitsapa/+tags Here we see two main tags - "math rock", "avant-prog" 2. http://newnoisearchives.blogspot.com/search/label/Gravitsapa In this little review we see "Math rock"and "Progressive" 3.http://www.dontspreadbullsh*tspreadmusic.com/radio-free-taxipod-gravitsapa/ Here we see "art rock", "math rock", "jazz" 4. http://www.sodapop.it/rbrth/reviews/1859-gravitsapa-vulgata-hysm-2013.html And here we have "math-post-punk" and "prog-core" ))) 5. I want to add that in our country we are recognized as the pioneers of math rock So i think, that MATH is the best option...
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: December 21 2013 at 17:40
sorry for that links... i am drunk. Yes, yes , only vodka)
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 21 2013 at 22:38
Jabovsky wrote:
(...) 5. I want to add that in our country we are recognized as the pioneers of math rock (...)
Actually, that's the most important thing.
Cheers!
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 21 2013 at 22:44
Well then i guess we eventually made the right choice.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: December 21 2013 at 22:46
Horizons wrote:
Well then i guess we eventually made the right choice.
Yes, you did it.
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: January 02 2014 at 03:32
math team, what is your
decision?
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 02:09
The artist was asked something.
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 16:06
We're working through a heavy backlog right now - give us a few more weeks.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: February 20 2014 at 10:44
bump
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: February 27 2014 at 02:33
bump bump
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 20 2014 at 09:25
bump
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: March 20 2014 at 12:53
Herewego!!!
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: April 18 2014 at 07:56
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 18 2014 at 07:59
How much do they pay you to do this?
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: April 21 2014 at 16:50
withoutmonetary rewardall are lazy ..)
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: May 19 2014 at 03:34
free "bump"
Posted By: Jabovsky
Date Posted: June 07 2014 at 03:56
Hello Andy, what we should to do? Six months ago you said: "give us a few more weeks". We should just wait or remind youfrom time to time or maybe to lose a hope ...)
PS And thanks for your work )
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 20 2014 at 10:16
Jabovsky wrote:
Hello Andy, what we should to do? Six months ago you said: "give us a few more weeks". We should just wait or remind youfrom time to time or maybe to lose a hope ...)
PS And thanks for your work )
Hi,
Approved for addition to the site under the RIO/Avant genre tag. I'll use the bio you provided on the prior page if that's okay with you.