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Topic: Favourite ELP instrumental?
Posted By: richardh
Subject: Favourite ELP instrumental?
Date Posted: June 05 2004 at 05:12

My favourite is 'Hoedown'  although I expect 'Fanfare....' to win.

 




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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: June 05 2004 at 07:38

I was looking for "Trilogy", I forgot about Greg Lake singing a bit on that one! Begs the question what consitutes an instrumental. For example, is Pink Floyd's "One of these days" an instrumental? Guess that's a whole new topic though.Wink

Almost chose "Bolero", but went for "Fanfare".

 



Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: June 05 2004 at 09:06

 

HI, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA.

The Old Castle/Blues Variation is my fave... Emerson's Moog and Hammond fiery pyrotechnics, Lake's bass is rough and precise, and Palmer's drumming is archetypical. The perfcect sample for a newbie!!

Regards.



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 05 2004 at 15:01
Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

 

HI, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA.

The Old Castle/Blues Variation is my fave... Emerson's Moog and Hammond fiery pyrotechnics, Lake's bass is rough and precise, and Palmer's drumming is archetypical. The perfcect sample for a newbie!!

Regards.

True! That was the first ELP track I liked (as a thirteen year old)

 

 



Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 06 2004 at 04:08
Fanfare For The Common Man was my vote. Emerson gets into some wierd time signatures on this one. Works is one of my favourite ELP albums. No, it is my favourite ELP album. It showcases the individual talents of the three members including Carl.Fanfare For The Common Man was a Olympic main theme as well.


Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: June 06 2004 at 06:12
I can't decide, but I should mention that I much prefer their instrumental pieces as the vocals are not always 100%. (sorry Greg, love your voice on From the Begining)

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 06 2004 at 08:10
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

My favourite is 'Hoedown'  although I expect 'Fanfare....' to win.

 

Fanfare is right on top so far!


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 06 2004 at 16:34
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

My favourite is 'Hoedown'  although I expect 'Fanfare....' to win.

 

Fanfare is right on top so far!

Tank and Toccata with only one vote each (so far) surprises me.Fanfare is always popular for some reason.It never veers much off a strict tempo which to my ears makes it the least 'prog sounding' instrumental ELP did.

 



Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: June 06 2004 at 20:24

I voted for Tank, although it's quite a difficult choice as I really like Abbadon's Bolero, Hoedown and Toccata. ELP's version of Fanfare is OK, but I prefer the original.

 



Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: June 06 2004 at 20:31
Hoedown always takes me back to watching hockey and hearing the organist play this tune. I really enjoyed ELP's version. Fun and energetic. Fanfare second. 


Posted By: moonchild
Date Posted: June 07 2004 at 00:26
I'm surprised that no one else picked THe Barbarian from the first self-titled album. I used to play that album and Tarkus over and over while reading The Lord of the Rings Trilogy.

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Posted By: raleighgranprix
Date Posted: June 07 2004 at 00:45

I could have gone with Tank or Hoedown, I did pick Tank, because for 2 days, no one voted on it; the ending, is fantastic as well;  An exceptional live rendition is on Welcome back my friends as well.

Songs like Just take a pebble seem to be barely out of the category of being an instrumental.

Fanfare is very well done, maybe it has been so popular, I did not think of voting for it. That said, I think, it was ELP's rendition that made it the modern day classic it is, all respect due to Copeland.

I hope I get all my facts correct in what I state here.

 

 



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 07 2004 at 01:56
Originally posted by raleighgranprix raleighgranprix wrote:

I could have gone with Tank or Hoedown, I did pick Tank, because for 2 days, no one voted on it; the ending, is fantastic as well;  An exceptional live rendition is on Welcome back my friends as well.

Songs like Just take a pebble seem to be barely out of the category of being an instrumental.

Fanfare is very well done, maybe it has been so popular, I did not think of voting for it. That said, I think, it was ELP's rendition that made it the modern day classic it is, all respect due to Copeland.

I hope I get all my facts correct in what I state here.

 

 

I'm not sure whether Copeland's 'Fanfare For The Common Man' became more popular as a peice of music after ELP did their version.It certainly brought it to wider public attention and you often hear the intro from ELP's version played at sporting events... so quite possibly yes.

 

 



Posted By: arqwave
Date Posted: June 07 2004 at 13:25

i like blues variation, beacuse it a true improvisation based on the notes and feelings of the main event (say, pictures at an exhibition) and actually is the only time that i have heard it after that record

peace



Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 18:18
The Barbarian is my favorite instrumental.

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 18:21

Top 3:

  1. KARN EVIL 9: 2nd Impression
  2. Abaddon's Bolero
  3. Blues Variations


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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 18:23

Toccata



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 18:23
The Barbarian... man that song gets me revved up.

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 18:24
Toccata

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 18:26
Toccata!

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Posted By: Mr. Krinkle
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 19:14
The Barbarian, i love the piano interlude.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 19:17
There are a whole bunch of good choices, but I have to go for Toccata... especially the version on "Welcome back my friends...".


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 29 2005 at 04:13

No doubt at all - The Barbarian! A real juggernaut of an instrumental...



Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 29 2005 at 04:18
My vote goes for Toccata...

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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 05:23

TANK

&

TOCCATTA



Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 15:32

The best ones are The Barbarian (gets my vote), Toccata and Abaddon's Bolero. I also like Tank (am I the only person who prefers the Works Vol 1 version?)



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Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 15:36

1: The Barbarian

2: Toccata

3: Karn Evil 9: 2nd Impression



Posted By: Lorak
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 17:44
In the late 1970's, I heard Fanfare live and was absolutely blown away.  

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Posted By: drumsandbass
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 17:50
Tank gotta love that drum solo in the middle. The clavicords rock pretty
good too. Overall great song with Toccata at an extremely close
second.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 20:30
Did you know that Toccata is not an original song from E,L&P but a cover or adaptation from the original composed by the argentinian classic composer Juan Jose Castro...?...well...that it...

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:55
Originally posted by Drachen Theaker Drachen Theaker wrote:

The best ones are The Barbarian (gets my vote), Toccata and Abaddon's Bolero. I also like Tank (am I the only person who prefers the Works Vol 1 version?)



oh heck no you're not, I like  the Works vol. 1 version better myself.


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Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 22:47
Tank, bitch.

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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:38

Their version of a song by that man!



Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:43
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Drachen Theaker Drachen Theaker wrote:

. I also like Tank (am I the only person who prefers the Works Vol 1 version?)



oh heck no you're not, I like  the Works vol. 1 version better myself.

I agree as well! But my vote goes to Hoedown - live - which just pips The Barbarian for me.


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:45

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Did you know that Toccata is not an original song from E,L&P but a cover or adaptation from the original composed by the argentinian classic composer Juan Jose Castro...?...well...that it...

No, it was from Alberto Ginastera, wasn't it?

I voted The Barbarian. Still curious about Bartok's original (Allegro Barbaro)



Posted By: Rockin' Chair
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:04
The Barbarian


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:13
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Did you know that Toccata is not an original song from E,L&P but a cover or adaptation from the original composed by the argentinian classic composer Juan Jose Castro...?...well...that it...

No, it was from Alberto Ginastera, wasn't it?


Yes it was, in his autobiogrpahy Keith Emerson describes how he visited him and got him to put an endorsement of ELP's version on the cover of BSS.


Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 07:33
Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Drachen Theaker Drachen Theaker wrote:

. I also like Tank (am I the only person who prefers the Works Vol 1 version?)



oh heck no you're not, I like  the Works vol. 1 version better myself.

I agree as well! But my vote goes to Hoedown - live - which just pips The Barbarian for me.


It's good to know I am not alone!

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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:13
The Barbarian. It's great instrumental. Very powerfull.


Posted By: Zap Zappa
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:21
defenetly Toccata. Musically super.
Musical instrument playing super.


Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 04:37
TANK is the greatest clavinet song ever written, it's just so perfect for the
sound of the that instrument, that's why I prefer the original to the Works
version. Toccata is fantastic, but Keith didn't compose it, it's a great
orchestral piece by the South American composer Ginastera. Probably the
best timpani playing ever in a rock tune!


Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 04:41
Originally posted by Mr. Krinkle Mr. Krinkle wrote:

The Barbarian, i love the piano interlude.


I forgot to mention, the piano interlude in The Barbarian is taken directly
from the piano piece by Béla Bartok. He neglected to credit it on the
original album, but did pay the rights to Bartok's descendants. I think
Keith turned a lot of people on to modern classical by putting these tunes
in a rock context. But he's a great composer himeself, that's why I voted
"Tank", it's pure Emerson.


Posted By: Kineto-Zetetics
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 05:50
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I was looking for "Trilogy", I forgot about Greg Lake singing a bit on that one! Begs the question what consitutes an instrumental. For example, is Pink Floyd's "One of these days" an instrumental? Guess that's a whole new topic though.Wink

Almost chose "Bolero", but went for "Fanfare".

 

I know what you mean Easy, I'dd class most ELP tracks as 'instrumental'. Nearly all Emerson written numbers are 'instrumental'  whether or not there is a vocal element.

I too was looking for 'Trilogy' as I think this is probably the most developed track ELP ever did. I have studied the score many times and am always impressed by the development of the themes and their strength - probably my mosy favourite track (especially to play on piano).



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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 09:27
Toccata: rough on the ears and full of energy but at the same complex and neoclassical. Gotta love it.

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:35
Argh... this was realy hard i love em all ofcourse but still i have to say... Toccata.

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Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 04:01
Voted for toccata

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