1) Bill Bruford stayed with Yes and recorded Tales from Topographic Oceans and Relayer.

2) When Peter Gabriel left Genesis, Steve Hackett went with him and they formed a new band together.

3) Syd Barrett was able to pull himself together and Pink Floyd continued as a 5 piece with both Syd and David Gilmour.

Pick one and let your imagination run wild 

Ian Damn. Andy McCulloch drums on Lizard, and wonderfully so.

According to Fripp's journal, the '69 band fell apart after the final show of the tour in SF.  He actually offered to leave the band if the others wanted to keep King Crimson going.  What in the world would that have done to prog history?

I think Tales with Bruford would have been incredible (especially "The Ancient") but I'm with both of you on Relayer.  Gates of Delirium and Sound Chaser especially required a "power drummer" like White not a "jazz drummer" like Mr B.  Other than "Ritual" with the huge percussion ensemble, I always felt Alan White was a bit tentative with the other songs on Tales - perhaps because it was his 1st exposure to the Yes way of doing things - but he really staked out his place and heavily contributed to Relayer.

Both Emerson and Lake wanted out of their respective bands of course so it suited them to form a new band. Palmer was actually very happy in Atomic Rooster and it took a some very strong words from Lake to get him to leave (''you are not only damaging me but yourself as well and that's heavy'' ).

The Nice had run its course although Moraz did a great job with Refugee (The Nice Part 2)

King Crimson's best line up was on Red imo.

Atomic Rooster with Palmer - now that's the interesting one. Could have been one of the major players in the prog scene perhaps? Crane was a very talented organist no doubt.

OK here I go :
 

Not really prog, but I've often thought about how it would've panned out, if Steve Miller Band had stayed together with Chuck Berry and talked him into doing Children of the Future and Sailor.

The nice thing aboubt time travel is when I go back in time and change things no one in the present notices a change even though there was a huge change from my timeline where these three questions posed were:

 

 

BBC Live tonight - Tonight with best selling UK band of 1973 King Crimson with the amasing singer Phil Collins

Singing their Smash hit "In the Airport tonight"

As everyone know Phil came to Crimson from the unknown band Genesis, the band was split after Peter Gabriel & Steve Hacket left to form GTH with tony Levin.

GTH is currently touring Japan, the only place left, where Progressive Rock is selling Albums.

 

After the unsucessfull album Tales.................., Yes have resently had some sucess with the instrumental Jazz Fussion album Graduately going Relayer. Anderson was kicked, now preforming as a broadway musical singer.

 

Bad news, the relatively unknown acid/stoner rock outfit Pink Floyd, have all died after trying to fly a kite formed as a pig, from the Big Ben tower, rumors say they were all freaking high on acid.  

 

 

As a proffesional touring musician, you are working with the listner, and after years of denying what the listner wants, we have now come to a bridge of knowlage, they wants short easy basic R&B, thats what we are supplying.

Jethro Bloody Jethro by Black Tull. 

Since when has Fripp ever cared about the audience.

Since PF actually did spend a very short time as a 5 piece I think this is a fascinating alternate reality.  Their original plan was for Gilmour to handle the live performances and Syd to remain the lyricist/songwriter behind the scenes (like Keith Reid of Procol).  PF would have remained a psych-prog hybrid with a cult audience.  With Syd still writing the songs the whole writing trio of Gilmour/Waters/Wright would never have developed.  Further, without Syd becoming an acid casualty, there'd have been no lunatic to inspire "Brain Damage" or anyone for the band to "Wish You Were Here".

 

Not sure I agree that his schizophrenia would have progressed to the same degree without LSD as I believe it was the catalyst which led to his disintegration.  On the other hand, I agree that he was predisposed to instability as the early band history is full of stories of Syd having an increasingly difficult time dealing with the pressures of their success...such as the record company constantly badgering him for the next hit single (as he wrote all their singles and 10 of the 11 songs on the 1st album) or requiring him to appear on "Top of the Pop's" which he strongly opposed and eventually lead to his first infamous public meltdown.

Either way, his descent was a terrible tragedy and listening to his final solo album Opel (a collection of outtakes from his 2 official solo albums) is a painful illustration of his ultimate mental deterioration.  Would he have cracked without LSD?  Possibly, but I don't think to nearly the same degree.

Never, but it seems he sometimes cares about the money.

At i can say from my personal relations that this coctail will result in various degrees of mental short and long term problems, not to everyone, some are extreemly strong, but to many many people.

So what exactly was Fripp supposed to have done differently to show he "cared" about his audience and not "the money"?

Clearly, being intimately involved in the creation of the very genre that brings us together on PA, running one of the most successful world renowned prog bands for 34 years, being the primary driving force between the creation of 13 Crimso studio and 25 live albums, spending over 3 decades of his life living out of suitcases in Holiday Inn's to bring music to audiences across the world, and providing millions with unique musical experiences of a consistently high quality from 1969 to 2003 isn't enough.

Did Fripp make money?  I sure hope so (though I suspect EG records made more from King Crimson than he ever did).  Did Fripp care about money?  Is there anyone here who doesn't need to eat or put a roof over their families heads?  

Look like you took my posts way too seriusly

 

If you read fripp's diary (i do, im a big fan), Fripp often makes stadements like :

"as a professionel touring musician...................." , often in relation to the fact, that he finds it hard to work as an artist, and at the same time run his "shop". I was just playing a game, on the idear that fripp got involved with Phil, and together they made POP music, Phil style, to give people what they want.

 

They did not, its a fantacy, and seems no one found it to be the least little bit fun.

 

 

2) Gabriel & Hackett form a pop trio with Patrick Moraz (because Wakeman stays with Yes) and have more success than the 80s Genesis we know and 'love' - those guys stick with the prog but fail and separate into three solo careers.

3) Syd stays = no themes of madness and loss = no Dark Side Of The Moon = no mega success = experimental music & underground cult status forever.

 

He eventually got fed up with being ripped off and he states that in many CD liner notes. He knew he was ( and is ) some form of demi-God because of his intellect, not only because of his outre playing. I remember doing many " I'm not worthies " at Crimson concerts. He's sort of the Elvis of progrock.

tamijo wrote: To my understanding this tread was ment as a place to be joking and stuff. Look like you took my posts way too seriusly   If you read fripp's diary (i do, im a big fan), Fripp often makes stadements like : "as a professionel touring musician...................." , often in relation to the fact, that he finds it hard to work as an artist, and at the same time run his "shop". I was just playing a game, on the idear that fripp got involved with Phil, and together they made POP music, Phil style, to give people what they want.   They did not, its a fantacy, and seems no one found it to be the least little bit fun.

I know this skews us 'off topic' a bit, but I so agree.  Giles is the one of the best, most under-rated drummers in the history of jazz & rock, let alone prog...