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Topic: British sitcomsPosted By: jude111
Subject: British sitcoms
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 22:32
Trying to think of my favorite British sitcoms from the last, oh, I don't know, 10 or 15 years or so?... Surely I've left some off. Anyway, I've intentionally left off variety shows and anything from before the mid-90s or whatever.
My favorite? Wow, it's tough. I love almost all of the above... but I have to go with Peep Show.
Replies: Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 22:34
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 22:35
Horizons wrote:
I prefer him on The It Crowd, as Richmond the Goth :
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 04:30
Such a good list.
The Thick of it gets my vote. Best political satire ever. Peep show is also excellent and after 8 series is still pretty strong in my opinion.
The only one I've not seen fro that list is Snuff Box, but as for the rest I would rank them as follows..
Peep Show
Spaced
The Office
I'm Alan Partidge
Father Ted
The IT Crowd
Black Books
Garth Marenghi's dark place
Green Wing
The Mighty Boosh
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 05:11
Oh man, this is hard. Snuff Box, Spaced, Thick of It and Black Books are all on the same level for me.
And then there is the ommission of brilliant stuff like Coupling, Him & Her, Fresh Meat, The Inbetweeners, Big Train, The Fast Show.... Although not on the same level, The Wrong Door also had some of my favorite moments.
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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 05:46
The Mighty Boooooooooooooosh.....
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 06:33
I've never seen (or heard of) Snuff Box either, but Matt Berry is a talent so I'll have to track it down.
Other than that all bar two on the list are excellent, I'm not a fan of Partridge or Brent.
Voted Garth Marenghi's Dark Place - British sitcoms need more Matt Holness and more surrealism. When we do that kind of off-beat surreal stuff well it's brilliant, other times it's This is Jinsy, which isn't.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 06:43
Kotro wrote:
Oh man, this is hard. Snuff Box, Spaced, Thick of It and Black Books are all on the same level for me.
And then there is the ommission of brilliant stuff like Coupling, Him & Her, Fresh Meat, The Inbetweeners, Big Train, The Fast Show.... Although not on the same level, The Wrong Door also had some of my favorite moments.
I left off sketch shows intentionally, so excellent shows like Big Train, Little Britain, That Mitchell and Webb Look, Catherine Tate Show etc. were left off.
I haven't seen the others you mention, so I'll have to check those out!
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 06:50
Ah yes, The Inbetweeners should definietly be on there. I really enjoyed all three series.
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 06:53
Dean wrote:
When we do that kind of off-beat surreal stuff well it's brilliant, other times it's This is Jinsy, which isn't.
Oh I've seen that one.
It's not very funny.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 07:14
I've not seen them all but I can't let the brilliant Black Books go without a vote.
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 07:24
wow, I love British comedy but I haven't seen any of these except the original Office and maybe a couple of Father Ted episodes. I'm just a bit behind. The Vicar of Dibley with Dawn French was really good, I've always liked her.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 07:56
Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 08:18
Vicar of Dibley is pure shoite.
...
Peep Show
Come Fly With Us
about a budget airline run by womanizer, Omar Baba is hilarious - especially the portrayal of the British born,totally British Pakistani. The two men what brought us Little Britain play over 40 roles here from immigration officer to baggage handlers.
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 09:45
Father Ted
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 09:50
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 10:24
irrelevant wrote:
Dean wrote:
When we do that kind of off-beat surreal stuff well it's brilliant, other times it's This is Jinsy, which isn't.
Oh I've seen that one.
It's not very funny.
True, Sky seems to be trying too hard to make sitcoms that work and failing. Stella and Starlings are just stretching a 30 minute concept to a hour to fill airpspace. Some programmes like Spy, Trollied, The Cafe and The Moonie Boy, could work if played differently but they are trying far too hard to work successfully - everything seemed forced and over-played. Great comedy works without trying - Father Ted was simply bizarre and should never have worked but it did and the cast became an ensemble cast because they were naturally great characters played to perfection, unlike the contrivance that is Mrs Brown's Boys.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 10:33
Tough choice. Was torn between Father Ted and Black Books and finally opted for the latter
(Both have two brilliant stand up comedians as part of the cast in Ardal O'Hanlon and Dylan Moran - three if you count Bill Bailey)
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 11:04
Dean wrote:
Father Ted was simply bizarre and should never have worked but it did and the cast became an ensemble cast because they were naturally great characters played to perfection, unlike the contrivance that is Mrs Brown's Boys.
I agree totally. After I heard descriptions of Father Ted, I didn't see *how* I could ever possibly like it. But a good British friend insisted I stick with it and would eventually love it, and he was totally correct (he's never been wrong recommending British tv to me! Come to think of it, he's the one who recommended Peep Show as well to me...)
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 07 2013 at 16:14
How can I not vote for Peep Show.
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 03:00
The IT Crowd!
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 03:33
No. Never hear of Snuff Box or Darkplace so, as all the rest are quality sc I will have to check them out. I an not a fan of The Office, so not that. I might vote for any of the others but maybe not Boosh as I don't find it that funny.
It would have to be Father Ted as everything about it is good and will continue to be good. We will still be watching it in 50 years time and laughing.
IT Crowd and Green Wing and Black Books all get my silver medal award.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 03:36
EDIT: I will probably not be watching it in 50 years time as chances are I will be dead.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 04:05
Black Books over IT Crowd over Mighty Boosh over Father Ted.
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 14:51
Snow Dog wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Sitcom I mean sitcom
No. I did have alonger reply but lost it.
Its a comedy. The situaation is a council estate.
= SitCom
It isn't but i am not getting into an argument about it. It just isn't.
IT IS!
LOL
On YouTube there is a welsh comedy called 'Fun at the Funeral Parlour' it was apparently on BBC Choice and nobody watched it. There are loads of episodes on YT if anyone is interested. I may.
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Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 14:51
Gavin & Stacey:
me friend went over to Blighty (norf Blighty) and says the people dress shoite and the lads treat their girlfriend's like sl*g. its so depressing and obnoxious.
So when I reads "Gavin & Stacey" when it SHOULD be "Stacey and Gavin", I'm thinking the Welsh don't respect the female gender either.
Anyways, I really dont click with the fat Gavin-friend actor there - ughhh, Smithy I think they calls him. If I had a friend so weepy-clingy and in-your-face all the time, I'd do him in.
Wot's really depressing on that show is when Gavin's mates get together and its as if they read each other's minds and know all the prescribed "fun" moves - like that robotic bollox, and they all know the same words to the same prole-songs. Total alienlifeform behaviour...
I only really watch the show for the Bryn character. That actor is so good. And I like the way he is portrayed as being easily awed by the most commonplace of things: "You know of these blog things on the INTERNET?"
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 08 2013 at 14:57
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 18:49
Fawlty Towers!
Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 19:47
The IT Crowd is quite pathetic.
There is a laugh track, fer crissake! (I guess the new model British sitcom is to dumb it down so's to be accessable by your average Americunk hillbilly-gumbo.)
Pwog reference:
Nerd #1 (singing) "We dont need no education!"
Nerd #2 (correcting) "Yes you do. That is a double negative."
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 08:43
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 08:59
Knobby wrote:
The IT Crowd is quite pathetic.
There is a laugh track, fer crissake!
No there isn't. There is a live studio audience as in all laughter filled British Sitcoms.
Personally...I love the IT Crowd. I love most of Graham's work.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:34
Attributes of comedy-dramas on TV sitcoms
In a comedy-drama, there is often an absence of a pre-recorded laughing track. Episodes can be either half an hour or an hour long. However, shows that use a 30-minute format tend to be more comedic with dramatic elements that keep storylines going forward, while shows that use a 60-minute format tend to be more dramatically based with humour used throughout the show either as comic-relief or to punctuate certain scenes.
Storylines tend to be more serialized in comedy-dramas, with events taking place in earlier episodes being referred to or having an effect in later episodes. This can be compared to more traditional sitcoms, which focus on telling one standalone story every week. The continuity of character development and storylines are more relevant in comedy-dramas than in traditional sitcoms. Characters' backstories tend to have a greater overall effect on storyline. Something a character has done in the past will often catch up with him or her, as opposed to more traditional sitcoms, where a character's backstory is unlikely to be referenced by the story of the week.
I've never actually sat through a whole episode of Shamless ( that is the subject of this ping-pong match I presume), but if all that is require for a sitcom is a fixed situation and comedy then Doc Martin or New Tricks would be sitcoms, and they ain't.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 12:38
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:16
Snow Dog wrote:
Dean wrote:
What about sitcoms that aren't funny? (ref: Green Green Grass) Are they just "sits"?
I quite like Green Green Grass. Ok not the best most funny comedy ever and populated with ridiculous characters but...well.....I liked it.
I did, because of Boycey and Marlene, especially the latter. Worthless if it had not figured them.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 15:57
Well.....I haven't had the chance to see any of those listed above....but I really enjoyed League Of Gentlemen (though someone chimed in earlier and said it ws technically not a 'sitcom'.). ....weird and funny. And of course the old classic Fawlty Towers.
But then what do we uneducated Americans know anyway? Just ask Obi Wan Knobby.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 16:23
Matt Berry releases a prog-folk album!!!!
Funnily enough, I was just looking at The Quietus website and see that Matt Berry has an album out that's being reviewed (quite favorably, I might add). Matt Berry's featured prominently on shows like Snuff Box, The It Crowd, Garth Marenghi's Darkplace, The Mighty Boosh, etc. The reviewer calls it prog-folk, and writes, "Album centrepiece, 'Solstice', evokes the shortening of the days through wheezing harmonium, choral chant and dueling Moogs, before finishing off with a guitar solo that can only be described as 'bitchin'', bringing to mind Amon Duul II jamming with John Barleycorn-era Traffic in a stone circle illuminated by the light from bonfires."
An excerpt from the review: "If you were to show someone a greatest hits compilation of Matt Berry's performances in the various comic TV series he has appeared in over the last ten years, and then asked them what kind of album he would make if given the chance, there's a good chance they would nominate prog. His performances are rich in bellowed portentous announcements ("SPEAK, PRIEST!"), eyebrow raised whimsy, and pompous bombast, three characteristics that they share with the best and most enjoyably ridiculous prog rock. Such an assessment would be partly right, too. Kill The Wolf has all of these things, but what it would fail to convey is how daffily enjoyable, beautifully arranged and oddly moving the finished result is."
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 12:15
Peep Show
Brilliant
Posted By: Knobby
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 22:31
I recant:
IT Crowd is very good indeed.
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 05:09
Knobby wrote:
I recant:
IT Crowd is very good indeed.
I hated it at first, haha. Now I love it.
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 19:09
From those... number one is...The Mighty Boosh
Runners up...
Black Books
Father Ted (Though in theory Southern Ireland isn't really classed as Britain, just Ireland)
Still though many of my favourites aren't on here... Blackadder, Red Dwarf, Hippies etc.
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Posted By: Mr Greeen Genes
Date Posted: December 12 2013 at 10:24
Had to go with Peep Show
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 09:00
From this list:
1)Father Ted
2)Peep Show
3)The IT Crowd
4)The Mighty Boosh
5)Snuff Box
6)Garth Marenghi's Darkplace
I haven't seen enough of Spaced to fairly judge it, though I am a big fan of Pegg & Frost's movies. I'm also a Gervais fan but no in The Office, for whatever reason. The rest of them I've never seen.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 09:25
Father Ted was so good!
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 13:22
Peep Show, one of the greatest TV shows I've seen!
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 13:31
JJLehto in June wrote:
Peep Show
Brilliant
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 13:37
IKR
aint I just the worst kind of person?
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 14:33
JJLehto wrote:
IKR
aint I just the worst kind of person?
The very worst! :p
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 22:28
I like Black Books.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 13 2013 at 22:54
Spaced. Edgar Wright + Simon Pegg + Nick Frost = fun.
Black Books is quite amusing as well.
The IT Crowd started off excellent, but after the first five episodes it decreased a lot.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 20 2013 at 06:58
Black Books, Father Ted, Green Wing, Alan Partridge...?
How's a guy to decide?
Very nearly plumped for the brilliantly written & performed Green Wing
...but by a very narrow margin I had to go with the master:
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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 20 2013 at 07:41
British humor is sometimes mystifying to me, as the biggest laughs often seem to come from pratfalls, slapstick and cheese. That said, Monty Python's Life of Brian and The Meaning of Life are classics that can only be referred to in hushed, reverent tones.
IT Crowd was hilarious IMHO, about the only British comedy I've been able to watch since The Young Ones.
Anyone make it through the entire The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret? The only example of British+American+Canadian sitcom I can think of. "My name is Todd" gave me a spit-take that took five minutes to wipe off the TV screen...
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: December 20 2013 at 10:18
Love so many of these, but Peep Show and Black Books are the favourites. Spaced, The Thick of It, Alan Partridge, Saxondale...not too keen on The Office oddly enough (I like Extras, so perhaps I should just give The Office more time) and never liked The IT Crowd.
Good thing it's limited to sitcoms. With British sketch shows included my hovercraft would overflow with eels.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 20 2013 at 10:39
I just don't watch sitcoms. I used to back when Step by Step and Full House was on, but I was a small kid and had no clue of taste and refinement - something that was extremely lacking in both of these shows.
Come to think of it, I may have caught a few episodes of The Peep Show (I was waiting for the comedy shows that were due afterwards). I guess it was ok, but then again I don't remember anything from it - except for the humour that veered towards the current thirst for 'embarrassing moments'. Ever since 'Meet the Parents' came out, this has been a staple diet of television. Now though it has been transferred onto the reality programs....
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 19:02
Been getting into Spaced lately. Extras was my favourite. Loved Saxondale, so I've been meaning to watch
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 19:23
Logan wrote:
Been getting into Spaced lately. Extras was my favourite. Loved Saxondale, so I've been meaning to watch
Funny you should mention Saxondale, I just finished the last episode last night on Netflix. Man that is one highly under-rated sitcom! That last season was brilliant, and I had to keep rewinding many scenes over and over again, they had me in stitches. Knock-down hilarious stuff.
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 19:48
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 21:08
jude111 wrote:
Logan wrote:
Been getting into Spaced lately. Extras was my favourite. Loved Saxondale, so I've been meaning to watch
Funny you should mention Saxondale, I just finished
the last episode last night on Netflix. Man that is one highly
under-rated sitcom! That last season was brilliant, and I had to keep
rewinding many scenes over and over again, they had me in stitches.
Knock-down hilarious stuff.
It's a terrific show., and that was such a good esiode.
What hooked me immediately when I saw it on TV the first time was
hearing Focus. Cause of it's music angle, it's one of those shows that i
would think would be highly popular at a site like this.
I'm going to try to look into all the shows on this list.
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: January 05 2014 at 21:46
Logan wrote:
jude111 wrote:
Logan wrote:
Been getting into Spaced lately. Extras was my favourite. Loved Saxondale, so I've been meaning to watch
Funny you should mention Saxondale, I just finished
the last episode last night on Netflix. Man that is one highly
under-rated sitcom! That last season was brilliant, and I had to keep
rewinding many scenes over and over again, they had me in stitches.
Knock-down hilarious stuff.
It's a terrific show., and that was such a good esiode.
What hooked me immediately when I saw it on TV the first time was
hearing Focus. Cause of it's music angle, it's one of those shows that i
would think would be highly popular at a site like this.
I'm going to try to look into all the shows on this list.
Definitely; he's always mentioning Genesis, Floyd, etc. Yes, Focus's music features in some of the shows, as does Jethro Tull.
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: February 04 2014 at 04:03
One more vote for Peep Show, that show is just too good
But I like the IT Crowd allot too.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 17:52
Just voted... for the Thick of It. Guess I watched it soon after the poll came out. The IT Crowd is great too. Been loving another satirical show, too early for this poll, with Rik Mayall, The New Statesman (be so much better without laugh tracks, though).
Often thought I'd like to move to England, even if just to have better programs on the telly.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 18:51
Vicious
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 10:48
At first glance, having just woke up at the time, I thought you were referring to Rik Mayall's conservative MP character from The New Statesman, Alan B'Stard, as vicious, but then saw the italics and realized it must be a show. Actually, I had a read not-so praising review of Vicious before. Will try the show.
Getting rather off-topic (and had planned to share this in the Short Films thread, but discussion didn't take off as much as I had hoped, so will share here instead as Ian McKellan who is in Vicious does voice-work for it): Steve Coogan (Alan Partridge, Saxondale etc.) and Ian McKellan lent heir voices to my favourite stop motion film. It's a dark comedy, I find dark comedy generally the best comedy. Warning, some will find it shocking and offensive (wonder if Dean has seen it). Those who are religious might wish to avoid: https://vimeo.com/25516414" rel="nofollow - https://vimeo.com/25516414
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 11:42
Vicious is an acquired taste (as "bad taste" sitcoms often are). At first glance it seems to be nothing but overplaying worn-out gay stereotyping however with two notable gay thespians in the lead roles there is more to it than that.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 12:42
With two of the the most acclaimed thespians in it, and other noteworthy actors, I would expect the show would have worth.
Off-topic, I know, but Dean, please do have a look at the vimeo link I posted of "For the Love of God" if you haven't seen it already. I think you might appreciate it.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 15:05
Dean wrote:
Vicious is an acquired taste (as "bad taste" sitcoms often are). At first glance it seems to be nothing but overplaying worn-out gay stereotyping however with two notable gay thespians in the lead roles there is more to it than that.
Definitely, and those wacky neighbors of theirs ain't bad either .
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 15:18
Guldbamsen wrote:
I don't know any of these
Me too. BTW, does anyone remember "'Allo 'Allo!"? Now, that one was great!
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 17:13
Dean wrote:
Vicious is an acquired taste (as "bad taste" sitcoms often are). At first glance it seems to be nothing but overplaying worn-out gay stereotyping however with two notable gay thespians in the lead roles there is more to it than that.
I don't mind Vicious, really. But McKellan and Jacobi are such splendid actors, it just seems a waste.
I've always had a soft spot for Are You Being Served and Keeping Up Appearances. I don't have the slightest idea why, but they amuse me.
And, of course, Monty Python's Flying Circus is simply the best.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 17:14