Your Thoughts On Pat Metheny?
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Topic: Your Thoughts On Pat Metheny?
Posted By: FLAC
Subject: Your Thoughts On Pat Metheny?
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 08:22
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I'm an big fan of Pat Metheny but he's new albums are so boring,uninteresting,...I miss the old days when he was playing with the Group. Does any of you share simmilar thoughts? |
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 08:48
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I find that album he did with the 'mechanical accompaniment' a.k.a. Orchestrion to be very stiff and laboured albeit it's a very ingenious and imaginative use of technology. Otherwise I find his music to be unremittingly soulless, bland and like so much post 70's fusion, tantamount to a hollow victory for accuracy over expression. He has a lovely head of hair though... |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 09:11
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Haven't checked out too much by him, but man, he's a damn good guitarist. His technique is astonishing.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 10:59
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I haven't checked out anything recent by him except Orchestrion, which I enjoyed a lot, and has the feel of the Group albums, though a little mechanical sounding, if you will. I hear the live Orchestrion album from last year is even better. However, I mostly enjoy everything I've heard from Pat Metheny. Some of his solo albums are favorites, some of the PMG albums are as well. Also, albums he appears on with other jazz greats are usually awesome, like Parallel Realities: Live with Jack DeJohnette, Herbie Hancock, and Dave Holland. That album from 1990 is one of the best jazz/fusion albums in the last 25 years. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 11:17
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Hate to say it, but Pat had a golden era and as of late I haven't found the stuff he's doing all that interesting. Orchestrion would be the exception. I think he became less interesting when he dissed the notion of him being a jazz fusion artist... ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 11:24
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His collaborations with Brad Mehldau are indeed forgettable. However, he is one of few artists (maybe with John Zorn and Mike Patton) who can play two extremes : easy listening ('letter from home') and avant-garde music ('Song X', 'Zero tolerance for silence'). By the way, if you like his eighties stuff, Marc Berthoumieux (accordionist) is mandatory listen. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 11:29
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Bright Size Life 1976 Watercolors 1977 New Chautauqua 1978 Pat Metheny Group 1978 American Garage 1979 As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls 1980 Offramp 1982 Travels 1982 First Circle 1984 STILL life (talking) 1987 question and answer 1989 Secret Story 1992 Imaginary Day 1997 Map of the World, A 1999 One Quiet Night 2001 Speaking Of Now 2002 Way Up, The 2004 Orchestrion 2010 That's what I have, everything after First Circle is hit and miss. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 11:34
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Slartibartfast, you need The Road To You, it's better than most of the albums you have.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 11:34
| And his work with Joni Mitchell has very cool....check out Shadows and Light recorded in '79 for some vintage Metheny along with Pastorius, Mays, and other great players. There's a cd and dvd of the show. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 12:10
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Pat had some choice words to say about Kenny G and his role in ruining jazz. Here's the link if you haven't read it. http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 12:47
Yeah, Pat got me in to Joni.  I'll put that one on my list, dark. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 13:38
Totally agree...my favorite material by him is with his orignal group.....but I also like solo and side projects.
I only have about 8 cd's and an early ECM complilation. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
FLAC wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:00
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I prefer the more upbeat/out stuff to the more easy listening/lighter stuff. So his discog is very hit and miss for me. But when he is good, he is quite good. My favorite would be Song X, and I'm very fond of his live Orchestrion disk. The samples I've heard of Unity Band were also very very good.
Honestly, I may prefer newer to older now that you have me thinking about it.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 19:37
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He's quite the noodler. I think he has a ton of skill. I put up their with Jessie Cook and Joe Satriani, but I like super joe the best!! ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 19:44
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My thoughts on Pat Metheny?
Pass the lotion honey. Lotion is of course incredibly handy in many situations, and astonishingly so those are in fact the exact same moments where I really dig Metheny... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 20:03
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I want to listen to more of his stuff sometime, all I've heard so far is a few songs, Back Arm and Blackcharge being my favorite. He's really talented.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 11 2013 at 20:13
| I have read so many positive things here about Matheny. He must be seriously talented. The only thing I own bearing his name is a 7" single 'This Is Not America' (with Bowie) - and I've always thought highly of it, even though it's probably not indicative about the guy's potential. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 12 2013 at 15:44
A guy at work (a Genesis fan, so I know he has good taste  ) recommended PM to me a while back. I checked out some tracks of his, and while I could clearly hear the guy is a very talented guitar player, none of the tracks did anything for me. But I would like to give him another shot and check out 2-3 albums, so I would be thankful if any of you could tell me which album(s) to start with.-------------  
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 14:39
He has many interesting lp's over the years but I really like the early one called 'Pat Metheny Group' with the song Phase Dance and 'As Falls Wichita Falls'...but several of his more recent ones are also very good.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 15:12
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I think my top favorite is American Garage. His work with Joni Mitchell is a close second.
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 21:59
| I have We Live Here and love it. In the field of jazz fusion I love this guy Norm Stockton. |
Posted By: FLAC
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 10:39
jees american garage this was the good days when he was playing an jazz rock style. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIr4wHHhr4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIr4wHHhr4 This is what i'm missing. Music like this
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 10:55
That was his tribute to 'garage rock' done Pat Metheny style. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 11:13
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The first 3 Pat Metheny Group albums are all gold. Offramp is gorgeous and my favorite of his late 70s/early 80s work, so far. My top 5: The Road To You Offramp Bright Size Life Pat Metheny Group The Way Up I like American Garage, probably would be in my top 10. We Live Here is do listen to occasionally, because it's smooth and I can laugh at it. I am missing a lot of Pat Metheny albums, but I have a lot of albums featuring him, like the Parallel Realities one, the trio album with Dave Holland and Roy Haynes, Michael Brecker's "Pilgramage", and Pat's trio albums, among others. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: FLAC
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 11:45
i like offramp album but i hate the song called offramp it's to difficult to listen for my taste but the song james kicks ass
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 23:19
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The most melodious of the creative modern jazz guys. Very diverse as well. Top albums: 1. The Way Up 2. PMG 3. Still Life (Talking) 4. Bright Size Life 5. Speaking of Now "Song X" with Ornette Coleman is awesome too. |