death vocals in Opeth
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Topic: death vocals in Opeth
Posted By: The Miracle
Subject: death vocals in Opeth
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 16:05
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Well? Damnation's a great example of a 'normal' album by them ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
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Posted By: Progzilla
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 16:10
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Why yes, then you can enjoy the vocals too!!
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 16:12
I like it both ways.... ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 17:12
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I think it's part of their sound, it never really bothers me, but also never really touches me. I would prefer it without, but maybe than the music will be less good, so I voted yes, but with a slight hesitation. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: ShaunoNoNo
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 18:35
I like death metal.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 18:36
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Opeth is a prog death metal band. If you're too close minded to enjoy growls that's your own problem, isn't it? |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 18:58
| I think the growls are part of thier sound. It goes well, and they write it in nicely. its not like they just tack it on to any song they write, its appropriate. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:00
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I like it just the way it is.On Ghost Reveries Akerfeldt really balances his death metal growls and normal singing voice pretty evenly. -------------  |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 21:08
Took the words right from my mouth- wow. Opeth is Opeth! |
Logos wrote:Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:26
| I don't care. The few Opeth songs I've heard sound pretty decent... but I've never really liked death vocals or anything like that. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:30
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Posted By: Progzilla
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:50
Here's the close-mindedness thing again... Answering yes in this poll in no way means that you can't enjoy growls. And if someone doesn't I don't see how that's a problem. ------------- Currently listening to: - Andromeda - Pagan's Mind - Kamelot |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 05:25
Not liking growls has nothing to do with having a closed mind. I don't see the point of death metal growls, and I don't like them. However good the music may be, the death growls ruin it for me. |
Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 15:26
Same here. And I disagree that Damnation is a good example of a "normal" album, as it's extremely mellow. I enjoy the heavy songs just as much when it's regular singing and not growling. I've said it before, I'll say it again - I just think growling is overused, and frequently comes off sounding pretty corny. ------------- Pure Brilliance: 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 15:42
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no, its good as it is
@Empathy- Opeth maybe overuses the growls on the first album, Orchid, but after that they are great. In perfect balance. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 17:18
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to be honest Damnation for me is the best album , because Akerfeldt dont use the death vocals, and the music is less metal than the others, Opeth sounds better without death voice ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: lynton samuel
Date Posted: July 29 2005 at 11:35
excactly!!! they should never stop growling! ------------- [IMG]http://www.denness.net/rpi/u/arners/bc/FFFFFF/bg/FFFFFF/bg1/FFFFFF/bg2/FFFFFF/ac/CC00CC/tc/ff9933/dc/CC00CC/nc/CC00CC/tic/CC00CC/rpi.png"> |
Posted By: richeym
Date Posted: July 29 2005 at 12:26
| i like the growling aspects. Damnation was a boring album, and so was Deliverence. the mix of the 2 styles is what makes them a great band. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: July 29 2005 at 13:05
"death vocals in Opeth" are delicious, sumptuous!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: Henkka
Date Posted: July 29 2005 at 20:07
| I'd say having the death metal vocals in Opeth's music makes it even better. If it didn't have any, I'm quite sure I'd feel that it's missing something. |
Posted By: Coya
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 06:11
| Opeth is Opeth (like Drew said). If you like clean singing, then you can find another band with clean singing, leave Opeth just exactly like their are. |
Posted By: Coya
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 06:12
 , sorry, * "... like THEY are".
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Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 15:10
EXACTLY!! ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 17:55
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I don't really care. Opeth has done plenty of songs with only growls, like the song Blackwater Park that i just love. Opeth has done songs with no growls at all like Harvest or A Fair Judgement which i love even more. I enjoy the growls in Opeth, but there are some songs like Bleak which i think would be better with clean singing only. All in all, i really do not care what Opeth does. -------------  
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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 18:05
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It's perfect the way it is. Mikael Åkerfeldt is a rare case with being equally good at growls and clean vocals, would be a crime not to use that talent to its fullest. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: DeadGhost
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 18:31
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Opeth is the only band with growls that i love. Usually, i HATE growls, but mikael is such a good singer and most people i know concider him as the best growler in the world, and i agree! it took me about 4 months(!!!!) to get into this band because of the growls, but it was worth it and i think they are one of the best bands today |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 19:50
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Opeth are Opeth. Please don't try to shape them into your dream band ... the growls are an integral part of them. They cannot be removed without destroying what Opeth are. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 20:26
| I was originally scared away from Opeth because of said growling. But recently, I've come to accept it as part of the music. Would I like it better sans the growling? Probably, but not by much. Akerfeldt is very talented. |
Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 20:51
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It suits them just fine. |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:00
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Mikael's growls don't bother me, mainly because I can understand what he is "saying" that is, I can hear the lyrics. He is also a great vocalist with a clean voice. Opeth are the only death metal group I like, as I think they are talented and listenable compared to most others I have heard. ------------- 
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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:07
| No, it's good as it is. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:38
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Have you ever heard of Dan Swano? He balances growling and clean vocals just as good as Akerfeldt. ------------- |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:48
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DEVIN TOWNSEND and MIKE PATTON are some others ------------- 
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Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 05:38
I'm well aware of Dan Swanö, Devin Townsend and Mike Patton's abilities, in fact I'm listening to Townsend's "Terria" this very minute. I'm just saying it's a rare ability to sing both types of vocals equally well, not claiming that Åkerfeldt is unique in any way in that regard. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:26
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What do you mean by "Death vocals"?. You mean the barking ?..I definitely think their songs woyld sound better and have a better taste without them. |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:29
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Ghost Reveries is the perfect balance between the grunts and clean vocals So my choice is that it's alright as it is ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 08:31
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May I recommend you music by Dan Swanö?? Check out his soloalbum Moontower or his band Nightingale
edit: oops, didn't see someone else posted exactly the same reply ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:48
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Exaclty, if its good the way it is, dont change it ------------- Most listened albums last week 
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:55
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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:26
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I voted yes, I think Opeth is a great band musically and the singer has
a great voice. But if he would stop the barking I would finally be able
to sit trough an entire song... I just can't enjoy the "death vocals" at all. |
Posted By: Kris_man
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:40
| Growling, death vocals, barking, whatever you want to call them - they're ridiculous, they sound sh*t, and therefore I can't appreciate them, because there's nothing to appreciate. They cross the line that separates music from noise, imo. |
Posted By: sm sm
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 11:26
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The vocals are out of sync with the symphonic music of Opeth. An analogy would be Britney Spears type vocals in the music of Napalm Death |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 11:52
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 18:49
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I disagree with you. I'm no death vocal fanboy, but they have some value. There are simply places where only a good ol' death growl sounds right. The most repulsive feature of growls for me are how horribly placed extreme death bands use them. The vocalist never realize that every once in a while he needs to sing in rythmn with the song. -------------
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Posted By: S.H.Kingston
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 19:27
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They are a fantastic band with the screams or growls or "death vocals". It adds to the flavor of the music. Prog to me is a musical journey, and Opeth have decided to take that journey. The "death vocals" only add a different dimension and character to the music. The great contrast between the screams (Some of the most tortured and intense, not like the barking of some sh*te Death Metal acts) and his "regular" (And very pleasant sounding voice) is incredible and makes the music more compelling. Very few bands who do the screams and singing also can do both well, or with conviction. Without either one, they just wouldn't be the same, and if he ever decided he was bored with one or the other, I hope he changes the name of the band. Anyway, the interviews I've seen lead me to believe he has no intention of getting rid of them anyway... This will probably kill any cred I really don't have anyway, but as far as separating the line between music and noise, well, I love harsh noise/experimental, too...so there you go... |