Quiet Sun
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Topic: Quiet Sun
Posted By: Sean Trane
Subject: Quiet Sun
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 10:55
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Only one album , but what a great one, in 1975!! four long tracks above 8 minutes . Only one flaw to it: its title, Mainstream . Anything but ..... Manzanera on guitar (Roxy) Also Eno helps out Prog as hell! most urgent additionto the ProgArchives!!!! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:23
| Yes, Quiet Sun should be here. I bought this album in the 70s and didn't like it at the time (mind you, I didn't like Gentle Giant or VDGG then either), but I'd love to hear it again. Contains a track called "Mummy was a small non-stick kitchen utensil..." and I forget the rest. |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:40
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speaking of one-time supergroup projects reminded me of Centipede: Septober Energy album unfortunately never heard of it, but saw it's line up in Hulloder pages... The line up consist almost each one of the canterbury performers, plus ex-Crimson Ian McDonald! can anybody tell what this is like, and is it possible to include in the Archives??? more importantly: can anyone tell me how to get this?!?!? keep on proggin' ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:49
Centipede is certainly worthy of inclusion. Septober Energy was produced by Robert fripp but had most of Nucleus (also of urgent inclusion), the Keith Tippett group (actually it was K T's project) , Julie Tippetts (ex- Driscoll of Auger's Trinity) and so many more. Double vinyl with one track/side, two of them great Big Band Canterbury but the other two almost Free Jazz. There are many other records up that alley that should be in here : also KTG, Dricoll's 69 album and her Sunset Glow album she made as Tippetts.
You should not have too much problem finding this Centipede album as it was re-issued by Disconforme label that released all Auger's Trinity and Auger's Oblivion Express. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Bilek wrote:Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 12:16
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What about 801 band.I would assume that would be quite similar,since Manzanera,McCormick and Eno was also part of that venture? 801 Band Live is fantastic.I wish I had the full concert. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 12:47
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Agreed Quiet Sun should be here. (Mum was an asteroid daddy was a non-stick kitchen utensil......). A couple of QS's tunes found their way onto my long term favourite 801 Live, on which the 18 year old Simon Phillips is stunning. Anybody caught the other live album, 801 Live At Manchester University (btw the original home of VdGG), which has Godley and Creme guesting -well they didn't have to travel that far with Manchester as their home patch; (record issued by Voiceprint)? The Finn Brother (previously of New Zealand's Splitz Endz and subsequently Crowded House) were Manzanera's other vocal guests - and Manzanera reciprocated on one of additional tracks taken from a live Australian TV broadcast, found on a Crowded House CD single). And if you are taking Keith Tippett you have to be careful because of his long term and independent association with free jazz. Have you heard him with Elton Dean's Just Us, (I saw them live in 1975, Tippett spending more time inside the guts of a grande piano than playing its keys), and some of the duo albums he later did with Elton Dean (which really push the Canterbury tag). Then what about Ovary Lodge (British free jazz) and Dedicated To You But You Weren't Listening (early Roger Dean artwork and an early Vertigo release, featuring a very British big band sound, with three drummers including Robert Wyatt). On the excellent Jazz Britannia series shown by BBC 4 earlier this year, Keith Tippett and Julie Tippetts (ne Driscoll - note: Julie deliberately uses the S, Keith doesn't, unlike his uncle the late Sir Michael Tippetts, who's music coincidently featured on last night's Proms), talked long and hard about the difficulties of retaining their musical independence, and so ending up surviving by picking potatoes one very lean year at the end of the 70's. Keith also mentioned the session work with Crimson, commenting that it was too short a part of his life to have meaning, and indeed he spent slightly more time employed on session work for a post-punk, new romantics band in the 80's, which nobody remembers but he got more money for!!! |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 12:57
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ST because of the overlap between Machine and Nucleus, wrt to dates and commonality of players, I would support this suggestion. However, we must not push 'commonality' of players too hard, since if you examine the mid to end of the 60's period, you'll find the likes of Elton Dean played with some the British big band main stream jazz players (having graduating from Long John Baldry's Steampacket) - check out the Graham Collier release issued in May by Cuneiform. While another album also issued by Cuneiform in May, John Surman's Way Back When (recorded in 1969), a very strong candidate for the British jazz rock album of the 60's, has again some of those British, big band mainstream jazz players, here including John Marshall. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 12:59
I wonder if you are aware of this extended version: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000025AS1/qid=1122397138/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/202-0064998-4346254 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000025AS1/qid=1122 397138/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/202-0064998-4346254 |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 16:05
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Small correction - Quiet Sun was not really a supergroup, but actually a reformation of a schoolboy band which formed at Dulwich College, a rather exclusive boy's school in South London (not a million miles from my current home as it happens. I found out recently that Gryphon used to live in a shared house near here, and Chris Cutler's Recommended Records has moved all over from Clapham to Wandsworth to Croydon. What is it about this area and prog? But I digress...) Manzenara, Hayward, MacCormick and Jarrett all played in a band with a pretty flexible line up. In 1976 Roxy Music took a sabbatical, and Phil Manzenara contacted his old mates and they knocked this splendid album together at the same time as Manzenara's solo album Diamond Head. For a bunch of old schoolmates messing around, it's a corker of an album and highly recommended. Hayward went on to the remarkable This Heat and a series of always good and often brilliant solo albums and collaborations. Manzenara went back to Roxy Music and thence to production and solo work, and as far as I know MacCormick drifted out of the music business, finally hanging up his axe in the early 80s. Don't know about Jarret - can anybody enlighten me?
------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 17:29
Yeah thanx,but i have not come across it in the stores yet.One day. The price looks right. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 17:46
Syz Thanks for reminding me this album is later than I thought, but to tweak dates a bit further, the liner notes of the Blueprint edition of the CD says the album was recorded January 1975, during that period Manzanera was on this sabbathical recording Diamond Head. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 17:49
| Don't some of these guys reappear on at least one of Eno's solo albums - Airport Music or Apollo????? |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 18:27
i only know the modern band new sun ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 03:25
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Thanks for the input , guys! I'll PM this to mailto:M@X - M@X and Ron ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: July 30 2005 at 17:13
| Yeah I watched the 'Jazz Britannia' show yesterday on BBC2- excellent stuff, with some great interviews and footage (including that hilarious mimed Graham Bond performance from a film 'Gonks Go Beat', Colosseum from their appearance on 'Supershow' etc.). I recently picked up 'Septober Energy' and it sounds pretty weird on first listen, but I suspect it will take a long time before I can pass any real judgement on it. |