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Topic: Genesis v. Marillion
Posted By: video vertigo
Subject: Genesis v. Marillion
Date Posted: July 25 2005 at 22:37

This is Genesis starting when Marillion started, who apparently sounded a lot like Genesis in their early days.  Genesis was no longer what they once were.  So Genesis at "Duke" and the beginning of Marillion.

 



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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 25 2005 at 22:49
I'll take the genuine thing, even if it is popped up a bit, over Marillion any day.

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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 01:44
Genesis

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 01:47

Genesis. For what they did in the '70's and early eighties.

Marillion is good too, but compared to Genesis it's Second League to me. Still, I admire their progressive attitude since Brave.



Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 02:12

Marillion any day.

Foxtrot vs Script For a Jester's tear, really no contest, script wins
Trespass vs Fugazi, again no contest, fugazi wins
Selling England vs Misplaced, ehrm, tough contest, Selling England wins
Nursery Cryme vs Brave, tough again, but Brave wins
The Lamb vs Clutching, really no contest, the lamb bows down at the feet of Clutching at straws

Everything from Genesis after the Lamb is really no match for our winner.

marillion owns Genesis.

 



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 05:25

LATE Genesis only??

Then Marillion gets my vote, no question. I think Duke was an excellent album by Genesis, but it was the only 'excellent' album they produced in the 80's IMO. Marillion produced two excellent albums (Script & Fugazi) and few 'very good' ones (Misplaced C, & CAS)



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Posted By: richeym
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 07:38
i prefer marillion, but the very best early genesis songs crush even the best Marillion songs.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 23:25
I'll have to go with marillion after duke is just the time when genesis became crap  But during Gabriel era they owned any band except yes IMO

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Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:04

This poll can't be serious. We're talking about the master vs. the apprentice.

It's true the master was eventually lured to the dark side, but so was the apprentice.



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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:08
Marillion. Late Genesis, you know, blows a lot of arse.


Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: July 27 2005 at 20:13

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Marillion. Late Genesis, you know, blows a lot of arse.

Yeah, but Hogarth blows bovine appendage, so Marillion sux harder.



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:04

Oh, okay, LATE Genesis vs. Marillion. Sorry, I should the intro to the threads better before I start replying. I'm extremely irritating these days.

Except for the magnificent Three Sides Live Album my answer would be: Marillion. They beat Genesis after 1983. But I listen to both, even later Genesis, which has it's moments from time to time.



Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: July 28 2005 at 04:34
Marillion.


Posted By: soy10ley2002
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 11:40

1983: Script For a Jester's Tear vs 1980: Duke - Duke wins

1983: Script For a Jester's Tear vs 1981: ABACAB - ABACAB wins

1983: Script For A Jester's Tear vs 1983: Genesis - SFAJT wins

1984: Fugazi vs 1983: Genesis - Fugazi wins

1984: Real to Reel vs 1982: Three Sides Live - TSL wins

1985: Misplaced Childhood vs 1983: Genesis - Misplaced Childhood wins by a mile

1985: Misplaced Childhood vs 1986: Invisible Touch - MC wins

1987: Clutching At Straws vs 1986: Invisible Touch - CAS wins

1988: The Thieving Magpie vs 1982: Three Sides Live - TSL wins

1989: Season's End vs 1987: Invisible Touch - IT wins

1991: Holidays In Eden vs 1987: Invisible Touch - IT wins

1991: Holidays In Eden vs 1991: We Can't Dance - HIE wins

1988: The Thieving Magpie vs 1992: The Way We Walk: The Shorts - TTM wins

1988: The Thieving Magpie vs 1993: The Way We Walk: The Longs - TTM wins

1994: Brave vs 1992: We Can't Dance - Brave wins

1995: Afraid of Sunlight vs 1992: We Can't Dance - AOS wins

1996: Made Again vs 1992/93: The Way We Walk: The Shorts/Longs - TWWW wins

1997: This Strange Engine vs 1997: Calling All Stations - CAS wins



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Posted By: soy10ley2002
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 11:45
Addendum: If we're going to go off the author's topic and include any Genesis from 1972-         & nbsp;       1977,then it's Genesis easily.

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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 14:44

Marillion by a mile. Only Duke and ATTWT were reasonable late Genesis albums (3 stars each), whereas Marillion scored several 4-5 star albums.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 21:13

heres how I rate the albums (that I have):

Marillion:

  • 3 - Script for a Jester's Tear
  • 2 - Misplaced Childhood
  • 2 - Fugazi

Genesis

  • 3 - And Then There Were Three...
  • 4 - Duke
  • 2.5 - Abacab
  • 4 - Three Sides Live 
  • 2 - Genesis
  • 3 - Invisible Touch
  • 3 - We Can't Dance
  • 1 - The Way We Walk 1
  • 4 - The Way We Walk 2
  • 2 - Calling All Stations






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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 31 2005 at 21:49

In my opinion , only "Invisible touch" and "Genesis" are worse then the BEST Marillion-album which, IMO, is "Script...". Genesis is Genesis, so I voted Genesis



Posted By: floydaholic
Date Posted: August 01 2005 at 15:43

Genesis is clearly the victor for me



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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 03 2005 at 11:55

I'm not a fan of either band, but I voted Genesis because they are the original - without them there wouldn't have been any Marillion. Obviously, Marillion's early output is vastly superior to anything Genesis did from the early '80s onwards, but one cannot forget the difference between the master and the apprentice, as Kirklott wonderfully put it.



Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 03 2005 at 12:12
Genesis I guess Marillion lost a lot with Hogarth, they became a
completely diferent band - they should have changed their name, at least
you wouldnt except things to be the same, while Genesis was the same
band with a sound that progressed (not that good progression) ... Yeah
Genesis


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 03 2005 at 12:22
Genesis

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Posted By: mgallard
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 17:23
Never forget Marillion would never have existed without Genesis. Actually the first times I heard Marillion I thought it was a new group led by Peter Gabriel, which accounted for the almost Genesis rip-off quality of the first Marillion records (even more so Grendel or Market Square Heroes in the previous EPs) and the weird cover up name the vocalist had (Fish). It was good to have a Genesis ver. 2.0 as I missed them in the 80's. I always had quite a laugh when reading how much it irritated the Fish-version of Marillion to be compared to Genesis, I mean how the heck could they deny it!? Listeners all over the world aren't stupid. I still enjoy Marillion up till today, great material.


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:01
Never heard Marilion, so I voted Genesis

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 20:24

I have to say, that if it's late Genesis vs. early Marillion, early Marillion is the winner hands down.  I love Duke, like Abacab, love the first side of Shapes, like Domino off of IT, and like DTLS and Fading Lights off of WCD; I did really like Calling All Stations, even if it did sound like a cross between Bankstatement and Mike and the Mechanics.  On the other hand, I love Script and Fugazi, and CAS ranks as one of my favorite all-time albums.  MC was o.k.  I liked some parts of it.  And Hogarth-era Marillion was good too up through TSE.  Overall, I would say that Marillion was producing far superior work in the 80's than Genesis.  Of course, early Genesis vs. early Marillion would be a whole different ballgame.

My vote goes to Marillion.

 



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 07:35
Marillion the winner. i like Genesis but Marillion is the band i discovered as a first of prog rock, Marillion and Pink Floyd.


Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 08:32
Genesis. Of course.

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